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YOUR RESEARCHNEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

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Replace back now in order

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This will have to be changed back now in order for the C2 bumper to now fit (and the ducts are expensive for a piece of plastic).

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor
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Check car fax

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I did check the car fax before I bought the car.

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Check car fax

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I did check the car fax before I bought the car.

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Clean job

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For sure, I totally understand that but only given that it would've been a clean job.

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That sure looks like a third rate repair job after an accident.

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace /hacked some parts in order

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Now you said that is a Orginal GT2 Factory Bumper, maybe thats why nothing matches back there because the Perious Owner must have changed/hacked some parts in order to make the Orginal GT2 Bumper fit...

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I did check the car fax before I bought the car.

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For sure, I totally understand that but only given that it would've been a clean job.

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That sure looks like a third rate repair job after an accident.

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace /hacked some parts in order

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Now you said that is a Orginal GT2 Factory Bumper, maybe thats why nothing matches back there because the Perious Owner must have changed/hacked some parts in order to make the Orginal GT2 Bumper fit...

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace back now in order

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This will have to be changed back now in order for the C2 bumper to now fit (and the ducts are expensive for a piece of plastic).

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace bumper cover

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This morning I took the GT-2 cover off (it's a Porsche part by the way) and tried to install the radiator and it looks as if the PO, when they replaced the bumper cover, replaced the whole cooling system.

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace bumper cover while i was at it

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When I found out that I needed to replace the radiator, I figured that it would be a good time to replace the bumper cover while I was at it.

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace bunch of stuff behind the bumper in order

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That in order to put a ORGINAL GT2 Bumper on a non-GT2 car you had to change Bunch of Stuff behind the Bumper in order to make it fit, this includes Brackets and Such.

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace numerous expensive parts

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Now that it isn't and the fact that he has to change numerous expensive parts to make everything fit to an original C2, in a way it's not worth the hassle.

NEED RADIATOR HELP!!! My garage is a mess with parts all over the floor

Replace radiator

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So the fist thing is that I can't replace the radiator because the one I bought is completely different than the one that's there.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My car came with a GT-2 bumper cover that looks rediculous on a regular C2. When I found out that I needed to replace the radiator, I figured that it would be a good time to replace the bumper cover while I was at it. So I found a perfect match from Craigslist (thanks to a Rennlister!) in San Diego and had it shipped to NJ. I picked it up yesterday in the snow storm. This morning I took the GT-2 cover off (it's a Porsche part by the way) and tried to install the radiator and it looks as if the PO, when they replaced the bumper cover, replaced the whole cooling system. The radiators, brackets and cooling ducts look like they are all for either a turbo or GT-2. So the fist thing is that I can't replace the radiator because the one I bought is completely different than the one that's there. It's about 3 inches bigger on each side than the one I bought. Does anyone know if what I'm saying makes any sense? Has anyone looked at their radiators? In the YouTube video of bumper cover removal, it looks as though the AC condensor is about the same size as the radiator. On mine, the radiators are much bigger than the condensor is. The funny thing is that it looks as if it's always been there??? Are they supposed to be as big as they are in the pictures? I have a picture of the radiator that I bought next to the one that's in there to show you how big the one thats in there is. Another dead giveaway is that the PO had the condensor swift tied to the radiator. That's why I have it wired together. I cut the swift ties. What a ****ty job they did. A s a matter of fact, the GT-2 bumper cover was swift tied on the car...can you believe that?!? It looks as if when the PO put on the GT-2 bumper cover, he replaced the radiators and brackets too. Any thoughts, advice? When I tried to put on the new bumper cover, it didnt fit because the radiators were too big, thats what started this whole thing. Is it difficult to replace the radiator brackets and everything? I'm sort of at a loss here. Does anyone have a diagram of what this is supposed to be? It's a plain jane 2003 C2. I'm so frustrated...AHHHHH [ATTACH][ATTACH][ATTACH][ATTACH] Attachment 578606 [/ATTACH][/ATTACH][/ATTACH][/ATTACH] Attachment 578607

POST 2Original post

Can you verify parts #s, did they ship you the wrong ones? What is the size of the center radiator?

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The thing that is making me think it's wrong is that the stock bumper cover won't fit due to the radiators. I think I need to find a parts diagram somewhere.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I definitely have either turbo or GT-2 radiators. I checked the part numbers and looked at some diagrams and the radiators that I have on my car are all wrong. I guess I'll have to replace everything.

POST 6Original post

let me know if your interested in getting rid of that bumper!!! Is your car meteor grey? because mine is!

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My car is seal grey but someone here in reenlist already wants it. It's a Porsche part. If he doesn't take it I'll keep you in mind.

POST 8Original post

have you got these "scoops" (not sure what you call them) you need them...they have to fit over the radiator...do they? NOT GT3 as mine had the GT3 bumper

POST 9Original post

You know what, i read somewhere on here few years ago. That in order to put a ORGINAL GT2 Bumper on a non-GT2 car you had to change Bunch of Stuff behind the Bumper in order to make it fit, this includes Brackets and Such. There is no need to do this is with a Aftermarket Replica GT2 Bumper. Now you said that is a Orginal GT2 Factory Bumper, maybe thats why nothing matches back there because the Perious Owner must have changed/hacked some parts in order to make the Orginal GT2 Bumper fit... looks like you are S-O-L... Sorry

POST 10Original post

If done properly when someone put on your GT2 bumper, all the radiators, ducts, etc will be all changed. This will have to be changed back now in order for the C2 bumper to now fit (and the ducts are expensive for a piece of plastic). You can find all the parts diagrams in .pdf format on the Porsche website for free downloading. http://www.porsche.com/usa/accessori...artscatalogue/

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POST 12Original post

I have to say that I think your car was hit and either the owner or a crappy bodyshop put this stuff on.

POST 13Original post

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I was thinking the same thing.

POST 14Original post

what's with the 3rd radiator? did you buy (1) stock C2 one? (a little lost on what you have for parts) my guess is you started drinking early today .....

POST 15Original post

Just replace it with another gt2 rad and keep everything the same. Don't try to convert everything back to what it was....

POST 16Original post

his whole reason for doing this is to get rid of the GT2 front end

POST 17Original post

That sure looks like a third rate repair job after an accident. You knew that car had been wrecked before? Didn't it have a bad car fax?

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For sure, I totally understand that but only given that it would've been a clean job. Now that it isn't and the fact that he has to change numerous expensive parts to make everything fit to an original C2, in a way it's not worth the hassle. If I were in that position, I would probably just settle and keep what I got.

POST 19Original post

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He is going to need all of the GT2 parts that you have if he is doing a conversion. Trade him for his stock C2 setup.

POST 20Original post

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I agree....its going to be a lot of work and money to put it right....get a GT2 wing and live with it (hey I might...no wait I sold.......)

POST 21Original post

Looks like a turbo setup (this is my C4S). What you have on the right side I have no idea.

POST 22 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

That's exactly what I have. It looks just like that. I don't want a GT-2 nose on a C2, it looks silly and I feel silly. I did check the car fax before I bought the car. It showed no accidents. Car fax sucks! I have the that cooling diagram. My plan is to buy all the parts one by one when I have the money. It's going to be over a grand when it's all done but it is what it is. I've got three kids in college at the same time so my priorities right now are books and beer money for my kids not car parts. I'll do the best I can buying all the parts. It will take a while. Maybe I can put the old turbo parts on eBay and make some money back. I'm sure front end parts are desirable since that's where most of the accidents occur.

POST 23Original post

what about getting a turbo/C4S front bumper instead, then you don't have to redo everything.

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