fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
16 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCHRMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Leading reported evidence

Replace rms

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The 4th generation seal p/n is 997 101 212 00 and that's what I got a few weeks back when they replaced my RMS.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Suggestion

Will the mechanic need to drop the engine to replace the RMS?

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The RMS on my car was replaced in December and there are signs of leakage again.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?
Frequently discussed work

Check oil level often

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

As far as taking it on a trip, if it were me, I'd keep and eye on it and check the oil level often.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Replace rms' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Check oil level often' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 16 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 4 other evidence results

Check oil level often

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

As far as taking it on a trip, if it were me, I'd keep and eye on it and check the oil level often.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Recommend fix

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

It only needs to be wet on examination for them to recommend a fix.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Repair after

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

They adviced me that it is so minor that I could safely take it to a planned wknd drive of ~800 miles and to get it repaired after.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Repair under warranty

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

The dealer informed me of a "minor" leak they would like to get repaired under warranty.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?
Frequently discussed actions (6)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Check oil level often

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

As far as taking it on a trip, if it were me, I'd keep and eye on it and check the oil level often.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Recommend fix

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

It only needs to be wet on examination for them to recommend a fix.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Repair after

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

They adviced me that it is so minor that I could safely take it to a planned wknd drive of ~800 miles and to get it repaired after.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Repair under warranty

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

The dealer informed me of a "minor" leak they would like to get repaired under warranty.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Replace rms

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The 4th generation seal p/n is 997 101 212 00 and that's what I got a few weeks back when they replaced my RMS.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Suggestion

Will the mechanic need to drop the engine to replace the RMS?

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The RMS on my car was replaced in December and there are signs of leakage again.

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?

Use could go hand and hand

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Is there any chance that RMS leaks and non-use could go hand and hand?

RMS discovered at service, no oil leak ?
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

16 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

1 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Outcome without a verified action link

You can drive the car until you decide to have it fixed.

No unique explicit quoted action; no causal link assigned

Generation: 20261026T052503Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I know this topic has been beaten to death, but I never noticed any oil drops on the garge floor. The dealer informed me of a "minor" leak they would like to get repaired under warranty. They adviced me that it is so minor that I could safely take it to a planned wknd drive of ~800 miles and to get it repaired after. I had always imagined RMS to be an obvious leak or none. Could there be such thing as "minor" leak which is safe to be driven on a long trip? Yeah, i am really wanting to take her on a trip after the winter hybernation,...real bad. Thanks.

POST 2Original post

Others with more knowledge on the subject will probably chime in here but it is my understanding that it "seeps" before it "leaks". In some cases, you can notice some oil seepage around the seal and it may not actually be leaking yet. As far as taking it on a trip, if it were me, I'd keep and eye on it and check the oil level often. Good luck

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the quick reply,...I am heading to the dealership now to pick her up.

POST 4Original post

It only needs to be wet on examination for them to recommend a fix. Do it under warranty. You will get the 4th gen RMS, which seams to work well. You can drive the car until you decide to have it fixed.

POST 5Original post

The search is your friend. You will find pages upon pages on this topic (including discussion on your very question)�..you are correct the topic died of a beating a long time ago but someone seems to shoot it about once a week just for good measure. The short answer is it is a leak. Some leak more, some leak less. There is no good evidence it is anything more or less, nor is there good evidence that it is a symptom of doom in the near future. The biggest risk of a RMS leak possess is oil contaminating the clutch (which is very rare). A majority of leaks do not need immediate attention. A �weeping� style of leak is the least severe. For all you know your weeping RMS seal has been �leaking� since the last service. The amount of oil lost is insignificant and you would never know but for looking at the bottom of the car. If the car is under warranty by all means get it fixed. If not, then very likely there is no hurry to spend the $800 to get it fixed. Wait until you need a new clutch (save $$$ on the labor) or until the leak gets severe enough that you notice oil on the floor (which may never happen).

POST 6Original post

Anyone have the P/N for the 4th gen seal? Mine is in the shop now would like to verify which part they are using. This is no big deal, about 3 hrs to drop tranny assy and replace. Then see what happens, hope this one actually works.

POST 7Original post

This is exactly what I've done for the last 12000km and during that time the engine has needed less oil than almost any car I've owned before (less than 2 qts). As long as it stays like this I'll just wait for the clutch replacement.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I spoke to my mechanic,...and as you guy's had mentioned the new generation seal supposedly has worked well. He agrees that it can even wait a few more thousand of miles with no problems. So, I'll wait till it needs a clutch or gets close to warranty. Thanks

POST 9Original post

When I got my car a few months ago the guy I got it from said it might possibly need an RMS replacement, I got the price lowered ; ). Anyway when I got it home I threw it on the lift and found that it was swetting oil. No big deal I figurerd I'd buy the parts and fix it when it became a problem. I stored it for a month, as long as I could take without having it on the road, and after that time it had leaked about 4 drops. I figured an RMS change was in the near future for me, but that was five weeks ago and I haven't seen a drop since. If "I" were you and your warranty was coming up I would think about changing it. If "I" were you and I had time on my warranty I would hold out. Is there any chance that RMS leaks and non-use could go hand and hand?

POST 10Original post

Will the mechanic need to drop the engine to replace the RMS?

POST 11Original post

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...&st=0&#entry24 The jury is still out on the 4th generation seal since it just recently came out. There is a German 996 guy on renntech who had this seal put in and it still leaked.

POST 12Original post

TCR. No they do this on a hoist, the tranny is removed, Most P-car Mechanics do this in under 4 hours.** Tool Pants This is interesting because I have the newest seal it had a 997 Part Number, and I did see some oil drops on my garage floor the other day. If i replace this seal it would be the fifth, and I know I can get a new motor. I will wait until it has to go in for service and get it done. It can leak 10 times, i still love the car, and it has no effect on me what so ever. Its just oil

POST 13Original post

The RMS suncoast sent me was a 997 pn as well.

POST 14Original post

P_L_E_A_S_E, the full 997 (gen 4) RMS P/N. Thank You

POST 15Original post

The RMS on my car was replaced in December and there are signs of leakage again.

POST 16Original post

The 4th generation seal p/n is 997 101 212 00 and that's what I got a few weeks back when they replaced my RMS. So far it's fine but that's way too early to tell. http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...pic=6175&st=20 - Ahsai

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.