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YOUR RESEARCHAdvice on which 996 to go with
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The Yes simply indicated that everything was within Porsche standards and had been checked without any issues.
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"is there any unusual noise from the drive train?" He checked yes but didn't specify what the noise was.
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They also was just name best used car dealer in Colorado.
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I felt I paid $1500 more than I should've but it was The car I wanted.
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RAC I would trully appreciate if you could check the car out for me (would you guys still fly out there if it looked fine and had a PPI done?).
Set on the yellow, next question is anyone here located
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My heart is really set on the yellow, next question is anyone here located near Boca Raton, FL, I'll send him an email now to see if he can get the PPI done this week, should I have him tell the dealer to call me, how does getting a PPi done out of state?
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I am trying to decide between two cars, here are the details:
A)
2000 Speed Yellow C2, with a Fully Aero Kit, 18k miles, in great condition, bottom price $40k. In FL.
B)
2001 Guards Red C2, All tan leather, 36.6k miles, great condition,
managed to get the dealer down to 37,510. In Denver.
I'll have to consider shipping for both cars to Maryland.
Thanks for your input.
If you buy the car in FLA, fly down and drive it back - you'll be glad you did.
If you get the right car, a Porsche with 40k miles will feel better than any new car you've owned previously. In my opinion, $40k is too high for a 2000 hardtop, so if you're willing to spend that much, be patient and find one locally that you can drive first.
I'd probably go with the Yellow one, but more because I like that color better. I am not a fan of the red personally. One thing though we have learned is make sure that Florida car is not a flood car, and relying on Carfax to tell you that info is not a good idea.
Thanks guys for the input, I would love to drive the car back but time wil lnot be on my side. The guy is fixed on 40, so I am opting out of that one, the guards red is fully opted minus a nav and aero.
I would need more details on options. Hard to say if it is a good deal or not. I will say that the Savanha Beige interior gets a little old if it is everything (JMO from experience). There are a ton of 996s for sale in the DC area, would be much closer for you and save on shipping and/or transportation.
There isn't too much difference between 37.5 and 40. The extra 2.5K seems to be getting you a lot: half the miles and an aero kit. Aeros seem to have much better resale value than non aeros. I would go for the speed yellow car. Of course, only after the car flies through a PPI.
I'd appreciate if you guys could fwd me some links to closer one's pref, white, yellow or black, no silver/grays please.
Thanks.
Here are the pics of the two:
I also love the yellow, but then saw a pic of a Red with Aero, tallying it up it's going to work out to a similar figure, is there any difference between a 2000 model and a 2001?
How would I get a PPI done, the dealer with the Red is willing to get the PPI done whenever I am ready.
Thanks again for everyone's input........
Here are 18 within 100 miles of DC-Including a red
http://www.cars.com/go/search/fs_sea...l&aff=national
Another 18 within 100 miles, including an 01 with 27K starting at $39
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...305&x=107&y=11
There seem to be a lot of 99s and cabs. Also try HBL and Porsche of Arlington. Depending on what you want to spend, Fairfax motors has a really nice 02 Targa. I love looking and if you want some help in the area let me know. I'll be glad to help.
I really appreciate your help JSainDC, actually I already took a look at all of those
The last one at Jim Coleman already sold last week. The search continues, or I may just stick with the Red in Denver if all check out.
Thanks again
Full aero's will bring over $40k without much effort. It's worth more than any other option especiall a full aero! They are hard to find and the rear wing is the most expensive part. I'm sure others will chime in here.
Wow...the interior of the red one is pristine! With prices firm, I'd likely opt for the speed yellow -- lower miles and full aerokit. $2,500 will not get you the kit with the taco wing, that is unless you don't care for it. Plus given these two color choices, I tend to prefer yellow over red. PPI is a must on both, of course!
The red one is at Highline Motors in Ft Collins? They have a good rep. and sell clean cars. If you do a PPI on the red, I would go with Poudre Sport Car in Ft Collins. I also live about 2 miles from them if you want me to go look at the car for you.
I'd go with yellow. IMHO, pre face lift cars look dated and too tame without aerokit. no offense to anyone, JMO.
You do need to get service, warranty and accident records. If the car bounced around a few owners or dealers, it's suspicious. also PPI is a must. Most likely, the Denver car sat during winters and was a weekend car. Make sure there is no repeat RMS history.
Don't let $2-3k sway you. If both are equally priced, which do you want? Get that ONE!
RAC I would trully appreciate if you could check the car out for me (would you guys still fly out there if it looked fine and had a PPI done?).
Here is a reply from the person selling the yellow one after I offered 38.5 -
"I have a neighbor friend that wants me to sell him the car a $40,000 if I can wait a month or so, and I told him if it is still around, it is his. You can have it for $39,500 if you do the service and repaint the rocker."
The car has the following -
It has the full aero kit, 3-spoke wheel, sport exhaust, sport wheels with new tires, stainless door thresholds, aluminum pedals, PSM, sunroof and litronic headlights.
Thanks for everyone's input yet again!
Mick
I recently paid $42,500 for a pristine blk on blk 2000 coupe with aero kit, 21,000 miles, and the same options. I felt I paid $1500 more than I should've but it was The car I wanted. I don't even think about that amount anymore.
Buy the car you are PASSIONATE about since it should be the reason you are buying a PORSCHE!
Personally I like the yellow one. I remember that same car being on my final 5 list.
Good luck with the PPI.
Guy's -
I think I've decided, I'm going to email him and see if he is willing to get a PPI done at his own cost. What is the best way to do this, and to get obtain a report?
Forgive me for all the questions, but it's a big decision. Look forward to your thoughts....I'll post up some more pics if you like
I love the yellow one (Im biased obviously, to me the Aerokit is mandatory)... BUT... is it me or does the hood fitment look odd? is that just a trick of the photo? It doesnt quite look aligned right.
Maybe Im just nervous about FL, but be super careful.
You are right, something about the front hood isn't right? The perfect PPI is from a shop that has both experienced Porsche mechanics and a body shop or person with that type of experience. The biggest mistake you can make IMHO is to just have a mechanic go over it and then get it home and find paint work all over the car(don't ask me how I learned this)
Post what city the car is in and ask for help in finding a good shop.
Guys -
Here's some higher - res shots of the front, I noticed the same thing or is it just the angle...
Also a shot of the interior, the seats don't look anywhere near the condition of the Red 996
Not to forget some pics of the Red, I had to really reduce them size as the pics sent for the red were very high res which gives me a better vibe from the dealership....
Notice a similarity in the front again, I think it may just be the angle
A couple of things the Yellow car looks like it has full leather. I think I see stitching on the panel, top dash and the dash looks smooth not vinyl. Also Supple leather seats will look more weathered just the nature of the supple leather. For supple leather those look great. They will look much better in person. The Red car looks like the top part of the dash does not have stitching which would mean the car is not Full leather.
Yellow Car: Aero, Full Leather ?, 3 spoke wheel, PSE, PSM, Litronics, SD wheels, low miles.... MAN BUY IT ALLREADY!!!! No brainer.
Can you post more interior pics... I did not see the newest red pics. Must have been posting while I was typing. I am 95% sure that the red car has only partial leather. That was the only thing going for it in my book other then the 01 model year.
Hood looks better in these shots. May have been the angle. I say have someone take a peek in person just to be safe. Otherwise, the yellow looks very sweet.
Totally agree on the supple leather. My supples look more weathered than that, but they're very comfortable
Again, thanks for the feedback (I really have fallen in love with this forum, I used to be an M3 owner only a few weeks ago until I got a great price for her)
My heart is really set on the yellow, next question is anyone here located near Boca Raton, FL, I'll send him an email now to see if he can get the PPI done this week, should I have him tell the dealer to call me, how does getting a PPi done out of state?
Thanks all!
usually the buyer pays for the PPI. That way all paperwork goes to you. You are essentially hiring the dealership to do the work. After the PPI I would talk to whom ever does the work. They will be able to answer all of your questions. With a Clean car with low miles their job will be looking for RMS leak, coolant leaks, all of the normal failures. You found a great looking car! Private party you might have a true gem on your hands.
Agree with what Sandoval said about the SY car. I noticed the stitching on the driver door and the supple leather. Those seats look in good shape. I have supple leather seats and LOVE them. Speed Yellow is my choice too!
Cheers guys, I will provide an uodate tomorrow if whats going on.
DAC, cheers man, the guys name is Mark, if you like you can say mention Mick from MD asked me to comeby...
Night all!
Yes you can purchase a warranty, but it will NOT be a Porsche CPO (Certified Pre Owned) unless 1) you buy the car from a Porsche dealer and they CPO the car, or 2) the car is currently under CPO and you buy it from the current owner. Then the CPO warranty is transferrable.
If the car is not currently a CPO car you will have to go with an aftermarket warranty. Do a "search" on
Warranty
and you will get so many threads on the topic that you will have a full evening of reading ahead of you.
Man that yellow one looks sick. I would get down there posthaste to check that one out. Of course the red one looks good too, but there is something about the yellow that I really love.
Great, I will be searching under Warranties over the next few days.
Update
He is going to arrange for a PPI this week, so if all is well, the car should be in my garage next month. Should give me enough time up the paint up the garage and tile up the floor.
Again excellent feedback as always
Might just be my monitor, but neither appear to have the full leather. I like the darker interiors, so the Red car doesn't appeal that much to me. I do like the look of the Yellow one.
I would make a list of all the options you want and not settle until you find the car you like. If the yellow one fits the bill, I wouldn't worry about a couple thousand dollars, I would fly down there, buy it and drive it back. I drove mine back which was over a 2,000 mile trip, it was great! Fly down on a Friday and drive it back over the weekend.
If these two cars don't have all the options you want, wait. It will be painfull, but there are a lot of good cars out there.
Kris
Kris
Just make sure if you do purchase an after market warranty that it will cover an RMS leak if one should occur. Other wise you may not need the warranty.
Ok Mick, stopped by to see the red car. Highline is a good place. I would buy from them. I know a few people that have bought there and they were happy with them and the cars. They have a good rep. They also was just name best used car dealer in Colorado. For what ever that is worth. As for the car, it is a nice clean looking car. All the gaps looked uniformed and even. There was a small spot of rash on the rear driver side wheel. Also a small little spot on the passenger side. Very small it would not stop me from buying the car. It does have the 3m style clear bra stuff on it. The car is not full leather. I am glad that my car is full leather with supple seats! The coolant cap and tank were both .00 and not the newer .01. I did not drive the car because I figured you'll go for the yellow.
option codes:
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437
438
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513
537
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659
696
Let me know if you need any help.
-AC
RAC, really appreciate you going there and taking a look at her. The owner of the yellow is taking her for the PPI and getting an Oil service done tomorrow, if everything checks out, she'll be the one I'll be picking up.
Again I'd like to thank everyone who has shared there experiences and there thoughts.
Mick
I wouldn't buy a car without personally test driving it first. Took me 7 months and test drove about 10 cars to find the right 996 for me.
Put a deposit on both, do a ppi on both, pick the car in the best condition, fly out there and test drive it. If everything goes well, go through with the sale. Drive the car home or fly back and have the car shipped.
$40k is a lot to spend without test driving the car.
Just an update, the PPI all checks out, however at the end under the comment's it said that there was minor seapage (sp) near the RSM, however everything passed.
Yep, I am flying out on Sept 22nd to meet up, test drive and hand over the check, she'll be shipped back.
I cannot wait!!
I wanna thank everyone for there input and say that this is a great board!
Drive it back! This summer I did a 3000 miles road trip with one leg of my trip 18 hours strait and only stopping for gas. Best road trip I have ever done!
Did you get an adjustment for the obvious RMS type issue? Minor leak around RMS is definitely a sign of a needed RMS replacement or possible engine replacement if not within Porsche spec..........I ask because an RMS issue on a vehicle I looked at stopped me cold. Unless it has a warranty I would walk away from a vehicle with RMS issue unless that is reflected in the purchase price.....Unfortunately, all of these cars have the potential for RMS issues....some worse than others. However, if you know it likely has an issue, keep that in mind.....I think that is the 996 model's biggest weakness......go into it with eyes wide open.
I agree, I finally find the perfect car which I doubt I'll find again with the same color/aero kit. Guy's I looked over the PPi checklist last night and to my amazement found a few questionalble items which I didn't see the first time round,
Here is a .pdf of the PPI, questionable items are on the second page left hand side:
Thanks, I may need to walk away from this one but I really don't want to
Yes I think that's my guess too, I just called the service dept and the manager and tech will be calling me back when the person who perfomed the ppi is back from lunch.
Otherwise the car seems flawless. Let's see what the results are?
Final update prior to 22nd, everything is fine via the PPI. I talked to both service guys and Reeve and they were glad to answer my questions. The Yes simply indicated that everything was within Porsche standards and had been checked without any issues.
Again thanks for everyones input!
