Local dealer will not certify a private sale car

Hi, I just talked to my local dealer�s sales dept. and they said that they will not certify a 2002 Porsche car that I want to buy from a private sale (it is against their CPO policy) . He said that they will do a pass through (with a fee) only if the person that is selling his car to me buys another Porsche from them. I thought that dealers will certify private sale cars for $1600???? If they don�t�then if you want the certification you HAVE to buy the car from them�and pay a more than $1600 mark up.

I think for 160 you just get a ppi.

Actually (someone correct me if I�m wrong), $1600 is what it cost the dealer to get a car through the certification process (they must pay Porsche) Thanks

why would the dealer cpo a car through a private sale? the whole point of the program is to get you to buy from a dealer. btw, a ppi from a dealer is more like $300 (in so. cal, anyways).

I'll certify it for $60,000.

I had had Lexus dealers "certify" private purchases several times. They "buy" it and the resell it to me with the certification costs as the only markup.

They will not certify it because it attaches a warranty typically. The only way to do that is use the dealer as a strawman with a kickback through the transaction. You're chances of finding someone to do this are slim to none. I contemplated the same thing and tried when I bought my car.

OK, OK! I will certify it for only $58,000. Last chance.

I was told that the cost to the dealer for the waranty from PNA is $1800.00 - this for additional 2 years and up to 100k miles. This cost does not include the cost to the dealer for the work that may be needed to bring the car into the spec. I really do not see why a dealer would do this to help a private sale! When I bought my 01 tt with 3k on it it was easy and inexpensive for the dealer to cert the car. Certified programs allow dealers to sell many more used cars than they normally would. It also helps to maintain the resale value of the best units. These programs are not to help private buyers/ sellers

Give me a break please....save your money.

the real benefit is that you can get the porsche extended warranty if certified- that is why I was going to do it.

FWIW - Just bought my '03 Coupe from the dealer & they charged me about $1550 for the certification. I paid it in order to get the extended warranty. (I should be covered until the next CGT After they had my check in hand, they told me that the car had been checked (ppi) as a standard part of their due diligence and the money just covered the cost of the warranty.

You guys crack me up. $1800 for 2 yr warranty? What a bunch of suckers!

its worth it to get it certified/warantied by porsche (even though i don't buy used cars) i have heard many horror stories.

Money Bags strikes again!!! Its a wonder you even associate with pre-loved dogs!!

Yup, cost of warranty and grease for the wheels-

have you ever paid for a repair on a 996? $1800 is cheap insurance if you drive 30-40k a year and a blown engine or trans will set you back $5-8k. i guess it's matter of perspective...if the car will be a garage queen and see less than 1k miles a month, then you roll-the-dice i suppose.

the fact is, once your out of warranty, porsche really could care less about you or your car in terms of taking care of you... from dealing with many many different dealers through my engine replacement ordeals, I discovered the same treatment from all of them being out of warranty... they all could care less, and tried to convince me to buy a new or one of their certified pre-owned cars if I had warranty concerns on mine...

My dealer in certified the car for me and I got the extended warranty from Porsche for $1595 plus the inspection (approx $200). In the first 6 months I used it three times. What did the dealer get? My 997 order one month after I sold my cab.

Thanks for the responses everyone. According to your answers I should try to get a car with an extended warranty. But only CPO will carry an additional 2 year warranty that does cover RMS. Therefore, if I buy a 2002 996 from a private sale I can only get a third party (not PNA) warranty that does not cover RMS and does NOT make the dealer care about me or my car. But if I buy a CPO car I will get the 2 extra years of coverage with the RMS covered by the dealer and then I could purchase additional extended warranty by him. I guess I could take the asking price of the privately owned 2002 subtract $8000 to cover the cost of a new engine and then buy it??? What would be the average private sale price (your personal experience opinion is kindly requested, please don�t quote KBB, NADA or Edmunds) of a 2002 996 with 12000 miles (no PSM, but with comfort package and adv tech package)? Thanks The Analyst

Analyst Just to be clear I took a private party 99 Porsche and had my dealer put a CPO warranty on the car and my subsequent RMS repair was covered. I received all of the normal paperwork that you would get if the dealer sold you the car with the same Porsche warranty. The big issue will be finding a dealer that will do it for you. Mine was smart enough to see the big picture. They got all the service interval and repair work. When it was time to biuy my new car they got preferential treatment. I have sent several people their way. Since the difference between private party and dealer used car prices can be significant I would try to make this happen if I were you.

Who drives 30-40k mi a year??? National avg is 12K mi. You must be doing roadtrips every single day. 30k mi/yr=82mi/day. Sucks to be you. If you drive that much, I'd get a daily driver and keep the 996 for wkends -- but then again, that's me. New engine is about $10K. Minor RMS repair is <$1k. If you have minor leak, I'd just repair it w/ my greenbacks. In 2 yrs of certified warranty, what's the likelihood of doing 2 minor RMS repairs? If you suspect a major RMS leak to warrant an eng replacement, you should just get a new car cuz in 2 yrs you'll be out of warranty again. Most of you may not know that the repairs done by your dealer under warranty aren't always warranted. It's common practice for dealers to perform work, get paid, when it's really not needed. You think your warranty is paying off but that's not always the case. Anyhoo, it's your money. I am a wrenchhead so warranty is good but not something I'd pay $1K a year. That's more than what I pay for car full-coverage insurance.

I do. Round trip to work is 120 miles. That's one of the reasons I put my Porsche away each winter. To keep the miles down.

If your engine blows a rod (like my first engine) or causes something internal 50/50 chance vs not doing so.. and your core isn't replacable, expect to spend $15,000 to $17,0000 for a replacement engine in total, not $8k or $10k.. it's a serious expense one must always be prepared for... an extended warranty for $1,000yr imho and the peace of mind in having this is well worth it, instead of playing russian roulette with an out of warrantied car... ...the cost from an authorized porsche dealer for the engine part alone is about $8500 for a used rebuilt... $750 or so in misc gasket replacement parts, seals, etc.., $2000 or so for labor, $1000 for tax, and $2500 for the core cost.. that's what happened on my first engine... no core value... add it all up... about $16,000.. and if the engine blows again? Another $16,000... $1,000 a year is nothing... should be a no brainer with this vehicle... I learned the hard way...

Who drives 30-40k mi a year??? Sucks to be you . driving a porsche 40k miles a year hardly sucks.

He who drive a Porsche 30 - 40k miles a year has alot of fun! If you're not going to drive it, hang a poster in the garage and save alot of money.

Certified Pre-Owned cars are available at Porsche dealers. You can purchase a Certified Pre-Owned vehicle with or without the Factory Limited Warranty (max 2 yrs / 100k mi). The cost of the warranty is $1549.00.

The cost of the CPO LIMITED Warranty is $1549.00. I purchased a CPO 99 cab in May.

You can buy a CPO car without buying the warranty.

warrantycenter.org Has anyone used this company to get an extended warrany? The quote is very good for my 99C2 but before I buy the contract, i would like to know if anyone has used/heard about this company. Thx. I could not find other companies willing to insure 99 porsche.

Analyst, i purchased an 02 cab with 14000 miles CPO in NY for 53K. Car had PSM, no xenon, 18 inch carrera 5 spokes, side skirts, partial leather. I was in the exact same position as you. I did not want to take a chance. MY car received a new clutch and RMS during the certification process. I was told the seal was weeping. I checked under the car, visited it several times prior to purchase, and saw no leaks. I think the dealer wanted to get the "warranty work" as much as possible. Good luck in your search

That's a fantastic price for a CPO 02 Cab.

My bad, it was late when i posted, i bought a coupe !!! sorry for the confusion

I checked this out and since I live in GA, I am not eligible. There must be something with their plan that is against GA consumer protection regulations. There are a few other states as well.

Hi, 42empress... I must say that this is a really good price for a 02 coupe too. Maybe there are better deals in the North than the South. Here (TX) no dealer sells their 02's less than 56K (non CPO), and they want $1600 for the CPO and for me to pay any repairs needed I told them that THEY ARE MAD I'm still looking... The Analyst