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YOUR RESEARCHcracked my oil pan!
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I stand corrected - that's an option...wil check with Pelican to see if I can cancel!
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Of course I willl inspect my baffles when it's all apart but there's no room in the budget for an upgrade at the moment.
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Look at it this way, you'll be getting more dirt out with this oil change by R&R the pan.
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In addition to my leaking power steering (cause still undetermined) and my haunted windows...now I have a cracked oil pan that's leaking at a rate that wil prevent me using the car until I find a replacement.
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Wow , when it rains it pours. In addition to my leaking power steering (cause still undetermined) and my haunted windows...now I have a cracked oil pan that's leaking at a rate that wil prevent me using the car until I find a replacement.
I don't know what happened...it was fine this morning when I left for work (at least I'm pretty sure it was) and but when I went to go for lunch i found a massive pool of oil under the car.
I went to tighten the drain plug, it was pretty much tight and that's when I felt the roughness. A good look with a flashlight and yeah - I must have hit something because it's cracked.
So...anyone have a spare oil pan for me???
I won't even dignify this with a response.
A new oem sump plate is *only* $177 from pelican with a three day free delivery and that includes a tube of sealing goop so all in all not too painful.
I'm borrowing my mom's car for a couple of days.
The fancy baffles are actually a seperate piece that bolts to the sump plate. Of course I willl inspect my baffles when it's all apart but there's no room in the budget for an upgrade at the moment. The other option would be to install one of those deep oil sump spacer things....but given that I've managed to crack my sump already at the height it is now, I'm not in a big hurry to bring it down lower.
Hopefully this third piece of trouble will be the end of the series.
Sorry to hear of your troubles. I get all my stuff sent to The Letter Carrier in Point Roberts. If you don't know of them check them out. Saves time and $.
Three things in a row should be it. Then you'll be all ready for summer.
Hey Pat - I use TSB in Point Roberts. $3 per package. Works great and so far I've not had to pay duty or taxes at the border..
I'm down once a week now for gasoline too (I work on River Road). I use at least one tank a week and at $20 per tank that's over $1000 per year. Crazy times.
Wow rough landing some place. It pays to take the steep areas at an angle. I've got one place that leaves at least one wheel off the ground while I climb over the curbs drop.
Man - I've been going over the last few days in my head and I can not for the life of me recall any event that would have caused this.
I do kind of remember about three or four days ago driving over a raised manhole that is on a stretchof road that is undergoing maintenance. I usually remember to avoid it, but this day I was screwing with my phone or my radio or something and I drove over it.
That was a bit of a jolt, but it was a while back and I didn't run over it through the centre line, it's more offset like. The damage is dead centre, at the trailing edge of the casting that the drain plug screws in to.
It's moot anyway. Damage is done and I'm $200 poorer and forced to drive my mom's PT cruiser as punishment.
Just trying to cancel actually. Was going to buy a X51 plate, but I like your $75 deal better.
We'll see if my cancel goes through and go from there.
Thanks!
I haven't had to pay any duty either! I'm down there every week too picking up goodies for the Pcar and gas. Today was some Lloyds floor mats and Friday my aluminum pedals should arrive.
Ugh - I wish
I just did an oil change a week ago. I'll be throwing away 8 litres of perfectly good Motul.
The price for a stock sump plate new from Pelican is $164 by the way. Add $13 for the sealing goop, and shipping is free so $177 total.
If i buy Jakes plate for $75 he's going to need at least $10 to ship it, and I still need a tube of goop which will be $20 by the time it's shipped and picked up so.....
If it's too late to cancel my order the addn'l costs is not too great. My savings would be about $65 - nothing to sneeze at (thanks Jake) but not that big of a dent.
If I cancel I was thinking about the X51 pan too. That's $250 delivered. What do you think Jake and the rest of you...worth the addn'l cost?
Thanks Jeneric - I will track it a bit thoug...plus I intend to take this motor to at least 300,000 kilometres. It has about 120,000 km now.
I can answer that for Geoff - being as he's a good friend of mine and all.
That would be the famous Catherine Bell. Not sure what she's famous for, besides the obvious. To the best of my knowledge Geoff does not actually know this woman...
Jasper is correct of course.
when I first starting viewing this forum there was a thread of woman and Porsche's so wanting to join in I found this pic of CB, I like it for my avatar obviously..a guy can dream can't he..
I consider you lucky. A puddle of oil under my car would scare the **** out of me! Out of all the things it could be, I would celebrate that it's just and oil pan!
Cheers!!
Catherine Bell became famous when she starred on J.A.G. as a Marine Corps Colonel. I had the pleasure of meeting & driving her when I worked for Jaguar in 2002. At the time she owned a Porsche, 993 I think, from the picture it looks like she has upgraded. She owned a motorcycle also.
Thanks everybody, especially Jake for the low cost offer, but I've ordered the X51 pan. My resoning:
1) It may save my motor at the track one day.
2) My philosophy has always been to replace stock parts with upgraded parts.
3) Bragging rights.
I may post some photos of the fitment...but probably not if it's a night time job.
For what it's worth, here's my tech article on the replacement of the sump, for future reference:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...-deep_sump.htm
-Wayne
Jasper, I think the X51 was a good choice especially since you track the car. Good luck replacing the pan. Look at it this way, you'll be getting more dirt out with this oil change by R&R the pan.
I find it hard to believe this type of thing doesn't happen more often as the oil pan on these cars sits so low to the ground, especially on lowered cars.
One key to this whole thread is to pay attention to where you are pointing your car. With my X74 I added the engine protection plate.......but I have yet to bottom out.
Another thing to add is that had Jasper fried the motor due to a cracked sump cover and oil loss I believe this would be covered by auto insurance.
Glad it all worked out.
Follow up...
The X-51 oil pan arrived, and it's good. A snap to install of course, except for one bolt head which had been ground down pretty good by the
REPEATED
bottoming out that I have been doing but not noticing.
I tell you the bottom of that pan looked like hell. For that matter the inside looked like hell too. The casting of the new pan was noticeably better.
Here's a bunch of comparison photos of the old and new pans. Note the different part numbers of the sump plate, which is odd. Dimensionally they are identical.
Actually when I look at the photos I see they are not identical. The X51 pan has a couple of tabs which may be for reinforcement.
Here are the photos of my crack. It's hard to see in the photo but it's there by the drain plug.
Well the thought has certainly crossed my mind.
I just hate adding weight though and I'm sure it's ugly.
I wonder if anyone can post a pic ? Depending on this and that I might even fab one up.
Jasper, I see that your old pan has a baffle attached to it similar to that of the X-51 pan. Is that stock?
I was under the impression that the stock pan was flat on the top(engine) side. From your photos it appears that the stock baffle would do an even better job of containing/concentrating oil than the X-51 pan.
This is what it looks like. Bolts into the oil pan using existing holes and bolts. I have one and its not very noticeable. You can also change your oil with it in place. It weighs a couple lbs. if that.
I know what you're saying, but far be it from me to second guess Porsche Motorsport. The X51 has higher baffles right-left, front-back the X51 has none where stock does.
One of the things that stands out though is that the X51 has those two extensions which tie in to the case. Notice the rubber flaps are more securely fastened on the X51 too. My stock flaps fine mind you.
Interesting piece...for $250 compared to $180 I figured what the hell.
so when do we get the non Bull**** story of how it got cracked..."I guess I hit something" Either you drink and drive to the point of memory loss or you are full of sheeeot...lol
Come on fess up...... You jacked it didnt you?
I DID NOT JACK IT ON THE PAN
You take that back!
Seriously though, there were gouge marks on the bottom of that pan which suggested I've kissed something more than once.
It appears I've just been grazing it, which explains why I didn't notice the crash.
I usually drive with my windows and roof open, tunes cranked, heater blower on full, usually at speed, and I'm kind of deaf on top of all that. I won't have heard it happening.
More that I think of it, it's gotta be that &^$&^%$ manhole that stands proud of the tarmac by the cemetery. It comes up just as I crest a hill. Insidious little ******.
They've been working on the road there for almost a year. The first time I noticed the manhole is when I drove over it. It could have happened then, although I hit it with my left side wheel so prolly not. After that I always try to crowd the curb, but it's tight and it's been wintertime and dark during my commute. At least twice I would have tried to straddle this thing. That's the likely time(s) it happened. I do remember driving over it with my wheels once more when I was distracted.
You know - I'm going to start taking a new route home. Problem is that I'm so brain dead on my commute sometimes that I start down that road and only think about the alterate route once I realize the manhole is looming again.
Anyway - I'm fullly aware now and no I did not jack it.
