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YOUR RESEARCHHELP! accidentally dropped a plastic tip into the oil filler tube....
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HELP! accidentally dropped a plastic tip into the oil filler tube....
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If you have fresh engine oil in the car that you don't want to waste, simply drain it into a clean container and reuse the oil after recovering the missing plastic piece.
HELP! accidentally dropped a plastic tip into the oil filler tube....
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The term gasket is used to describe any cork/o-ring/rubber/sealant used between 2 metal surfaces.
HELP! accidentally dropped a plastic tip into the oil filler tube....
Use drei bond just so i don't have
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I use Drei Bond just so I don't have to participate in these discussions.
HELP! accidentally dropped a plastic tip into the oil filler tube....
Use improper terminology and face the wrath of mooseknuckle
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I'll refrain from offering any further mechanical advice lest I use improper terminology and face the wrath of mooseknuckle.
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LMAO - this is probably a candidate for "best thread of the month"
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If you have fresh engine oil in the car that you don't want to waste, simply drain it into a clean container and reuse the oil after recovering the missing plastic piece.
HELP! accidentally dropped a plastic tip into the oil filler tube....
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so i was trying to mityvac a small bit of oil on this 996 i bought, but then the tip somehow got stuck and fell down the oil fill tube......
Is there a screen inside the tube or anything to keep items from falling in or am i really screwed here and need to remove alternator etc, to unbolt tube and hopefully get it out?
The small piece won't get into the engine because the oil filter would have stopped it. If the piece did not get lodged somewhere it would have ended up on the bottom of the oil pan. You can retrieve during your next oil change by dropping the pan and replace the gasket.
The oil filler pipe drops directly into the sump. The oil pickup tube in the sump has a screen on it. So not really a big problem, but like above, plan to drop the oil pan in the near future and that should do it.
The term gasket is used to describe any cork/o-ring/rubber/sealant used between 2 metal surfaces. But you�re right, on these cars, it�s sealant. Cork has long been abandoned. O-rings are my favorite type.
Seems to me a lot of people come to this forum for advice and some do offer opinion in generic terms. Commonsense guide us on what to do and in this case "after removing the oil pan, a new gasket is required to reseal it" and that descriptive is correct be it RTV or physical gasket. Some cars use RTV and some use gasket and the person who owns the car ought to be able to differentiate what the car needs. Some come to this forum who always accuse others as "CLUELESS".......
guys this got so out of hand. i would've called it a gasket too. people call it different things even if it silicone/rtv applied gasket/sealant. Try to let it go folks, i really appreciate the help though.
No. Sealant is sealant and a gasket is a gasket. It�s that simple. Use the right terms. I�ve been working on cars for 24 years and I�ve been a mechanic by trade for 16. Calling it a gasket is wrong and misleading advice.
Assuming someone seeking mechanical advice on here is mechanically inclined to know what you�re referring to is fool heartedly.
OP, you�ll need some loctite 5900 for sealing up the sump plate when you go in to retrieve what you dropped. Can be a little hard to find, you�ll need to order ahead from pelican or the like. I would go ahead and replace all 13 bolts while you�re at it as well, they�re cheap.
I'm sorry but this is a hilarious comment!
Gasket, sealant, yada yada yada..., if someone is uncertain of a procedure, the internet is at their fingers for repairs on a 20 year old car.
[QUOTE=moosetaco;17024200
OP, you�ll need some loctite 5900 for sealing up the sump plate when you go in to retrieve what you dropped. Can be a little hard to find, you�ll need to order ahead from pelican or the like. I would go ahead and replace all 13 bolts while you�re at it as well, they�re cheap.[/QUOTE]
If this isn't the comment of the day, I just don't know what it.
FWIW - I would get the 5900 from Grainger in the aerosol container. Makes application a breeze. I also cut the heads off 4 long bolts to thread into the block to make it easy to lineup the sump and not disturb my meticulous loctite...gasket...rtv...goop application. Once its up there, pull em and put the regular bolts in.
https://www.grainger.com/product/1TD...16e64ed26a:G:s
You know, I wasn't going to chime in, but since you insisted on being a jerk about it, the official name is Loctite SI 5900 Instant Gasket. Next time you insist on being an ******* try not to also be a dumbass.
If being right makes me an ******* and a dumbass then that�s me.
It�s sealant.
Sealant
is a substance used to block the passage of
fluids
through the surface or joints or openings in materials,
a type of
mechanical seal
.
�Gasket: a shaped piece or ring of rubber or other material sealing the junction between two surfaces in an engine or other device.�
This whole thing is a bit absurd to be honest. I don�t know why I�m even responding to a bunch of internet know it all�s.
If I give a mechanic a list of consumables for a job they�ve never done before and you list �gasket� that�s exactly what they�re going to look for in the drawers where the gaskets are kept. Call it sealant and they will go to the lockers where the hazmat is kept. Saves everyone a lot of time and money to call items by the correct name.
Someone tells me something related to their job that is helpful and correct I�d say, cool didn�t know that or the like.
Here I get called an *******, dumbass, or whatever. Have a nice weekend!
Your appeal to authority is insufficient argument because you cited no real authority. Really, the material in question is both a sealant and a gasket. There are many forms of sealant, for instance threadlocker is also a sealant (if you don't want to believe that one, try here
https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/...-sealants.html
). The type of sealant in question here is specifically a formed-in-place gasket (for an explanation see
https://www.permabond.com/resource-c...ing%20silicone
.).
People are rude to you because you were rude to another person, despite being wrong in your assertion, and then on top of that when someone tried to calm the situation you chose to double down. In this world, you can be oh so smart or or so pleasant. I recommend pleasant.
Back to the OP: what are you going to do?
If this piece is large enough to get sucked up or stuck to the intake screen of the oil pump pickup, or could get airborne due to crank and rods windage effect, you might want to drop the sump plate sooner than later.
Phillip,
Could you post a picture or describe how big the mini-vacuum tip was that fell down into the oil filler tube? I assume you mean the large filler tube and not the dipstick, correct?
The oil filler tube does NOT route directly to the sump. When you pour oil into the filler tube, it pours over the crankshaft carrier and then drains down to the sump. A small piece of plastic probably wouldn't do any damage, but a large piece could cause problems.
My advice is to NOT start the car. Purchase a borescope on Amazon and see if you can visually find it within the filler tube or inside the engine. Again, it all depends on the size of the nozzle that was dropped in the tube. IMHO, letting it get chewed up in order to recover it in the sump may be too risky.
Actually Joe, the oil filler tube mounts on top of the crankcase. The tube does not route through the engine down to the sump. When you pour oil in the tube, the oil passes over the crankshaft and down to the sump by gravity.
Nomenclature varies from each manufacturer for example : ,a firewall is called a bulkhead by some ,fire guard ,etc.A .The
key is to use what the manufacturer recommends or equivalent . to complete the repair.To make a big deal out of gasket
/sealant name is just stupid.
I am a retired senior master tech in gasoline ,diesel, hybrid ,lpg ,cng, also I am a ASE gas and diesel
master as well as having a smog test and repair license .I have been working at dealership level for over thirty five years. I
have probably forgot more then you know. Use what the shop manual says to use unless there is an updated service
message.. Most people here have been willing to help each other ,even making videos to help others.If you can't be of
help then don't post anything.
No one knows it all thats why we have shop manuals .
Your quote "
If I give a mechanic a list of consumables for a job they�ve never done before and you list �gasket� that�s
exactly what they�re going to look for in the drawers where the gaskets are kept. Call it sealant and they will go to the
lockers where the hazmat is kept. Saves everyone a lot of time and money to call items by the correct name" This sounds
like you are a dispatcher or service writer at a independant shop ..If a mech is going to do a job he hasn't done before
then he needs the shop manual for correct procedure .He should have read that before starting on the job or to get any
special service tools and parts organized to start the repair. I have no problem with independant shops but when they get
a tough one they send it to the dealer. Many people don't care for the dealer but a good one with trained employees is
someplace to have repairs you cannot do completed.
+1
I would not even start the car without first retrieving the missing plastic piece. Even if the piece is sitting at the bottom of the sump, I'd be concerned that it would get sucked against the oil pump pickup screen and cause some level of oil starvation. No way would I contemplate driving the car like this let alone waiting till my next oil change to retrieve the plastic piece. If you have fresh engine oil in the car that you don't want to waste, simply drain it into a clean container and reuse the oil after recovering the missing plastic piece.
Pants off to fart was yesterdays comment of the day - I'm giving you today's... I LOLd
To try to stay somewhat on topic - This should be a no brainer - Pull the sump and remove the...tip. If you can't find it when the sump is off, rotate the motor a couple times til it works its way down.
FOD is to be dealt with extreme prejudice.
Might be able to use the gasket that LN includes in their deep sump kit. They do sell it separately, so maybe Charles could weight in.
https://lnengineering.com/products/s...deep-sump.html
I can only imagine what rennlist would be like if you had to be an expert on terminology to offer advice. Would be 650 comments in a singular thread on the best route to get to cars and coffee.
Two things that have happened to me, one time on a brand new engine I was getting ready to put in the car I dropped a washer into one of the intake or exhaust ports. Rigged up a set of zip ties to a magnet with duct tape and fished it out successfully. I've also rigged up a retrieval device out of plastic straws, duct tape, and a shop vac. Duct tape it all together and it can fit in a lot of places. Amazing what you can come up with when you are desperate lol.
Instead of dropping pants, drop the sump late and remove the plastic. Don't want that thing to bounce around and then those pieces get stuck in the pickup screen.
I've been a mechanic for 600 years and we call gaskets "critter innards" because that's what we used to use.
I wanted to stay out of this, I really did.
I hope the OP doesn't leave us hanging and gives us an update...did using suction on the tip work?
I'll refrain from offering any further mechanical advice lest I use improper terminology and face the wrath of mooseknuckle.
I prefer the term engine caulk.... Does it really matter what someone calls the tube of stuff? You could just call it tube if stuff. And if you really wanted to you could buy a sheet of gasket material and make a gasket.
The important step is to do something so the oil doesn�t leak out of the pan after reassembly.
If you read this forum too long and take it literally, you�d think no one is qualified to do anything on these cars at all or the engine will explode if you look at it.
