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They looked the car over and gave it a clean bill of health.
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The new owner should immediately spend 8K on preventatives, changing every fluid and etc along the way.
Replace proactively while in the shop having ims etc done
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Luckily not too pricey but i'm starting to think they should be replaced proactively while in the shop having IMS etc done.
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Regulator basically dries out without use i've been told.
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Got it fixed with OEM part for about $350 from indy (i'm not a DIY guy).
With 10,000 to 20,000 made each year, do we really care if now and then someone parks a time capsule for us/them/the world? I am not bothered in the least if only 99% of the 996's made are driven hard.
Instead of "I bought the cheapest Porsche in America...." maybe we get "I bought the lowest mileage Porsche in America...". Might sadly end the same way, but i hope not.
That engine is a failure waiting to happen!
The new owner should immediately spend 8K on preventatives, changing every fluid and etc along the way.
Someone is going to spend top dollar for this car, and be disappointed as soon as they exercise it.
I can't believe how yellowed the coolant tank is. I wouldn't think it would have had this type of yellowing if stored in an enclosed location for 18 years.
They never do.
A "Garage decorator" will buy that car..
You know, the guy that buys cars to sit in his garage to make the place look good.. They brag about the cars having no miles on them, who owned them, and the like... The modern day "car guy".
What a waste of money.
“I’m keeping its value up by not driving it.”
There was a 20 year old Vette a couple of years ago that had 300 miles on it that sold for less than 1/4 of original price.
THAT was also a waste.
”I bought a new car! Want to go for a look? Ha!”
I drive my car often, and will continue to until I physically can’t.
It might not be worth much when my kids inherit it, but I‘ll have enjoyed every mile!
This one is a time bomb ready to happen.
Buy it and send it to Jake...
Or don’t drive it and just point at it in your garage with your friends.
drove my 03 4s 60+ miles in the rain this morning rather than take the train to NYC as usual, i just needed the THERAPY. Rain, snow, sun....i drive it. If i wanted to just look at it i would commission a portrait of my car and hang it in my living room!
I agree with you 100%. I am so glad there are people out there who store older cars. I don't care or question why or why they should not store cars. Doesn't matter to me. I just like having hope there are low-mileage/stored cars that future enthusiasts can enjoy.
I wish there were more garage-queen AE86 Corollas, Type Rs, M3s, Supras, etc.
I met a guy at the track several years ago who had a Ferrari he tracked. The car was in HORRIBLE shape. lol Paint was faded, bumpers damaged from track use, paint chips, etc. Everyone who stopped by to look at it was horrified at the condition. I laughed and said how awesome I thought it was that he was actually driving the car and enjoying the technology. A garage queen Ferrari makes up 99.9999999% of them out there. It's actually sad.
My 2019 Type R almost has 2,000 miles and just turned one year old. Maybe I should turn it into a garage queen. Naw, too much fun to drive. One reason for the low miles is most every time I go out to the garage I end up getting in the P-car. Especially since October!!
I couldn't agree more with you on the Ferrari dude. He is enjoying the car...after all it is a CAR.
I did the same thing yesterday! I NEVER drive my car when it�s wet out, but I woke up and thought to myself, �I don�t care the weather, I�m driving the pcar today!� Glad I did, enjoyed every second and tucked it back in the garage last night knowing it will get a full wash/detail on Sunday, lol. I turned 110k on the way home and came to the conclusion that after waiting 30yrs for a 911, I�m not saving this car for the next owner, I�m gonna enjoy it whenever I wish.
I suppose everyone has their "thing" they like to do with cars. I personally like to drive them! Although, you may catch me sitting in lawn chair in the garage with the a beer just admiring the car haha! I'm no expert in these cars, and had no idea low mileage could be a negative. It makes perfect sense when you think about it though. I just purchased mine with 15k miles a few months ago. I didn't buy it because of the mileage but rather the mods it had done I really liked. Rather than drive the car home about 400 miles from where I purchased it, I went up with my truck and trailer and towed it back. Took it straight to one of my local shop and had the IMS and RMS done. They looked the car over and gave it a clean bill of health. It was a relief! I think things will start to reveal themselves one way or another once I start driving it more. The roads have just been so NASTY with the salt this year that I've been having to keep it mostly garage kept. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with this winter!
Beware of window regulators failing on low mileage 996s that suddenly start having their doors opened and closed after a decade+ of minimal usage. Luckily not too pricey but i'm starting to think they should be replaced proactively while in the shop having IMS etc done. Enjoy your new 996.
Thanks. I've heard about those windows. I need to do some more research on if that's a DIY job. I haven't taken the time to look yet. My 3 yr old nephew was in the passenger seat a month or so ago and he was trying to get out. He wasn't strong enough to open the door by himself and he kept grabbing the handle. I could hear the window going up, down,up down, up down, up, down.. LOL
My 03 996 was purchased last year with 21,700 miles and driver side window didn't drop when either outside or inside handle was used. Got tired of making sure to leave it slightly down when turning car off and exiting and then having to use key in lock to raise it back up. Got it fixed with OEM part for about $350 from indy (i'm not a DIY guy). Few months later after my wife had been in the passenger seat for many drives, that side failed as well. Taking it in this weekend to finally get that side fixed, along with new OEM motor mounts and an oil change. Regulator basically dries out without use i've been told.
Let's say all fluids are changed, is there anything else that would cause this car to fail?
Has stuff dried up by sitting? (Like a seals and gaskets???) Any particular thing that will go bad?
Just curious
I remember reading about 959s that essentially sat for 25 years without being driven, waiting until they could be driven on public roads. The brake systems, as an example, had to be totally rebuilt because of corrosion inside the lines, inside the calipers, etc. Sitting still simply isn’t good for these cars.
Many of the classic Porsches on display at the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart have road rash on the nose, and on the rear fenders. I love that. These cars are meant to be driven!
This was just posted in BaT about the 18yr old 996 with 1800 miles:
"While the car has very low miles, it was driven pretty regularly and very well taken care of. You will not find a nicer 996!"
Someone got some 'spaining to do!
Saw that as well. Had me scratching my head. By my math, that comes out to about 100 miles driven per year which is 8-9 miles a month. Interesting definition of "regular" i thought
Indeed! That's the first thing I though of too. Plus prolly new tires, maybe a paint correction, etc. I never understand these cars. Was an 03 TT on the lot recently, 3,400 miles.
I disagree. You are looking at 2002 through 2020 lenses.
When I bought my first 996 in 2009, the IMS was a known and discussed issue. It was something to check via oil analysis. But the concerns were nothing like the over the top paranoia today.
Like having Heidi Klum for a girlfriend and not spending �quality time� with her, only for the next guy to have all the fun. Makes no sense to me.
Just drove my C4S from SF to LA yesterday so I can hang with my old buds down here today and hit Angeles Crest. Then drive home tomorrow. Will have done almost 1,000 miles in 2 days.
Back then everyone was busy telling me that the factory IMS Bearing could not be removed. Back then I was a liar that had made up to procedure to remove the bearing, but never actually did it.
How times change, and how people have continued to degrade.
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