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YOUR RESEARCHThe RUST is real!
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Then the in progress photos of people grafting in segments of new and used sheet metal.
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It's the buyers responsibility to inspect the car before they pay for it.
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my mechanic who was recommended by squirrel had a lead on one here in Houston 2002 with 105,000 miles no more than $ 2,000 worth of work needed maybe less if done by Justin on sale for $15k and Justin said the asking price was negotiable and yes the top worked.
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Given the time it's spent "seasoning" in water, perhaps you should change the name from Pepper to Sea Salt, and install a Captain's chair and a helm...?
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my mechanic who was recommended by squirrel had a lead on one here in Houston 2002 with 105,000 miles no more than $ 2,000 worth of work needed maybe less if done by Justin on sale for $15k and Justin said the asking price was negotiable and yes the top worked.
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Given the time it's spent "seasoning" in water, perhaps you should change the name from Pepper to Sea Salt, and install a Captain's chair and a helm...?
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Glad to keep hearing encouragement about getting this fixed.
Ugh so I spent yesterday pulling all the carpet out of my 996 cab. The passenger side is horrifying. I�m at a turning point and some decisions need to be made. The obvious question is whether or not this can be repaired. Does anyone know of a good fabricator in Houston that would tackle such a job? Or should I cut my losses?
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There are more photos and videos on my Instagram @yogisgaragetx. I�m not looking for oem look but rather a solution that I can live with and is safe.
I recall you bought it on Ebay and I glanced at the auction. You might want to compare the condition you are finding it in to the auction description and inform the seller he over represented the car. Nothing threatening, legal or demanding, but a request for a fair partial refund. Reference your posts here on RL too. Might take an hour of your time to compose that could get you a couple thou not to mention test the integrity of the seller.
This is not the sellers fault in any way. How the hell would they know the seat mounting points are rusted? It's the buyers responsibility to inspect the car before they pay for it.
Really? You seem to get angry easily. Anyway, I saw the auction description. Did you know it auctioned for a few thou less prior but that buyer backed out. I think it was original family owned too. There is a long list beyond just the rusted pan. It is the sellers responsibility to fairly represent their listing. If it were me I would do the right thing, even if I didn't know the pan was rusted out. Maybe you didn't know this before you replied?
The car was sold as-is, with no guarantee. I didn't do a PPI and bought it sight unseen. I'm not shocked because I felt that I got ripped off. It's a seller's market ATM so I knew I was paying a slight premium for a car that was bound to have issues. I'm more shocked that what seems to plainly obvious to most people didn't seem to occur with the second owner of the car. It was used as a daily driver and left to sit in the rain with little to no maintenance done. Luckily the engine is in good shape. No bore scoring and IMS is factory. Hopefully I can resuscitate the rest of it.
Good to know that a welder/body shop can fix this. I'll try to find one near me that will take on this project.
I recently restored a 69 911 coupe. Take it from me, that is not a major rust problem! Any competent body shop can handle that issue. Do not despair, get done what needs to be done, reassemble and use that time to address a few other issues and enjoy your car.
Check out more hi res pics on Instagram. The rust on the inside mount goes all the way through. I can see street. Outside is mushy. Glad to keep hearing encouragement about getting this fixed.
As others have said, it's not that bad - annoying, and ugly yes, but certainly not dangerous... Have you ever seen some of the "barn finds" that get fully restored? Yours is hardly in that league (there's a guy who used to be in this forum named Joe Mitro that did a resto on a old 914 - the thing looked like swiss cheese). Take it to a decent body shop and they'll propose a solution... Good luck
Ok, Fred Flintstone bad or bad enough. Some of the muscle cars resurrected these past years came from what seemed a few scraps of metal. I agree with others. Find a donor and cut out a segment, have it stitched back in.
It doesn’t look bad and as others have posted, we have seen worse brought back to life. However, I know you have to decide at what point is too much to pour into the car.
but as you pointed out, your engine is solid. Keep posting, enjoy the content.
Hang in there. I enjoy watching people work through these things and learn from it all. Some of this is doing what you can yourself, and knowing what your limits are and when to bring someone else in. While I have a mig sitting in the garage, I don't have much welding experience, it's a handed down Harbor Freight special, with no argon, so I'd choose to farm this one out too.
Buy an ebay car from a rust belt state and bitch about a minor rust under a seat
Come on man
I am worried if you find a real issue like the dreaded ____________ or ______________ or ___________________ or ___________________ or ________________ or ________________
I�d like to learn how to weld aluminum, in case of an apocalypse, but have had zero time to pick up another skill. I�m learning as I go on these project cars. I�m looking forward to patching this car up.
Does anyone know whether a car will pass inspection if there�s only one seat in the car? 😂
Electrical and mechanical issues I can handle. Rust is a whole different ballgame. It�s a question of whether or not it�s worth it in the long run. I�m trusting my gut, like when I bought it, and will fix it.
Lesson for newbies
Pay the money for PPI or dont bitch about what you should have known if you did. You saved PPI money and lesson learned.
Take a little responsibility for your actions. Please!
He is not bitching or crying about anything. He is asking if its worth fixing. The majority of the people that actually contributed to answering his question have said yes its worth fixing. So he is gonna have it fixed.
I don’t think he is bitching. I think he knew what he was getting into, somewhat sight unseen. He also shares and creates content on his YouTube and Instagram…if it was a perfectly sorted car there would not be much content.
Sorry, I must have missed the point of this post by OP.
"The car was sold as-is, with no guarantee. I didn't do a PPI and bought it sight unseen. I'm not shocked because I felt that I got ripped off."
My point is dont skip the PPI money. I think this is quite helpful.
As for fixing it wow. Like you have 5% of the information and you give an reply sure drop _______ into this _______ car.
We know very little about this car other than it has some rust.
But, lets get back to fix of not.
Sorry. You are 100% correct.
A PPI would have found this rust, I think. The seat rocked back and forth because the frame wasn't solid to the floor - that would be investigated.
Broken rails, frame, bolts? SURPRISE!
I'm with Yogi - electrical, mechanical, I'll track it down and fix it (or decide it's too much for me, like my rebuilt engine) - but rust? Not for me. Time to farm it out for sure.
No doubt a PPI would have found it. The rocking chair option was definitely a surprise. I think I have a plan of action. I just need to put a chair back in the cabin and might as well re-install the steering wheel too so I can drive it to a body shop.
Given the time it's spent "seasoning" in water, perhaps you should change the name from Pepper to Sea Salt, and install a Captain's chair and a helm...?
To fix this car, you will need the courage of The Skipper, the good humor of Gilligan, the money of Thurston Howell III, the charm of Marianne, the confidence of Ginger, and the ingenuity of The Professor!
Thanks to
@TexSquirrel
I've already placed an order for the floorboard and seat support. Waiting for them to let me know how much shipping is going to be on that HUGE floorboard.
I restored a '68 Plymouth many years ago that had serious rust trouble all over, including the floor boards. It was all fixed by a competent body guy.
The pix in the OP don't look serious at all, comparatively.
If rust was under the carpet, it was elsewhere on this car. A simple car on lift inspection would have detected rust. OP said he could see through the floor. So, under the car you could presumably see carpet.
But, back on point. If rusted out in one spot there are others...
When I was doing the mopar thing, I'd marvel at some of the cars they'd send off to the dip tanks and the before and after photos. Swiss cheese. Then the in progress photos of people grafting in segments of new and used sheet metal. Amazing what they could resurrect.
I'd have to farm this seat track thing out too. Hoping for some repair photos here when its done.
What was the line from Risky Business, "who's the U boat captain?"
squirrel is wonderful and helps everyone. Yogi you should let us know cost of all these things. I personally think by the time you get this cab sorted out with I believed you said had 110,000 miles this car including taxes, transport and everything else will be over $22,000, maybe more???
101k miles. I paid 15k, plus another 900 for shipping. So far I�m in about 1k in repairs, plus my time. The interior work will probably break my budget of 10k based on some prices I�m getting for seats and a steering wheel. Yikes! Maybe I�ll just keep it grey and respray the plastic bits.
I color matched and resprayed the savannah beige interior in my car. I also had to wipe down the vinyl parts with lacquer thinner to remove the New York city soot, as purple power wouldn�t touch it.
I also power washed the carpet and lightly sprayed it with paint. It turned out much nicer than I thought it would, it was in bad shape.
my mechanic who was recommended by squirrel had a lead on one here in Houston 2002 with 105,000 miles no more than $ 2,000 worth of work needed maybe less if done by Justin on sale for $15k and Justin said the asking price was negotiable and yes the top worked. Anyway hope all the content that you get out of this works out for you.
Respraying the interior bits is a great DIY that saves tons. Here is my before and after with elbow grease and about $10 in sandpaper and satin Krylon. I read a bunch of DIY threads on here about the prep work and application method and I couldn't be happier with the results. I did the console and the horseshoe - the only two parts I had significant wear on. The shift boot/**** and low mileage ebrake handle came from eBay and Part Society respectively.
Part of my fun of sprucing this thing up is the hunt for good deals on parts. I've got 109,000 on the odometer. If I can find a part out of a 30,000 mile car that looks 90% better than mine it's a no brainer vs. a brand NOS part for 2-5x the price.
Thanks for the tip. After looking at countless videos on the topic and your post I�m leaning towards repainting my plastic bits. I really like the look of the silver CC so I�m going to try that. I�m also considering having my seats re-dyed to save on costs. I love the sports seats with the crest on the headrest though. 😍
I�m waiting for a shipment confirmation on the floorboard I purchased last week. After that�s welded in I�ll start putting it all back together.
Wow, those interior pics look great and didn’t break the bank. Another option is hydrodipping the pieces as well. I had some pieces dipped to match the other wood trim pieces.
Water transfer printing. Was a pretty big thing in the early Honda days for the B16/18, K20, etc valve covers. Can do various patterns and prints, pretty cool process to be honest.
You can do hydro dipping at home. It takes a bit of practice but it can look good. Recall when Oregon football made their helmets look like carbon fiber years ago, they were dipped. But you can do all kinds of patterns and colors now.
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Hey all, wanted to give you guys an update. Thanks to
@TexSquirrel
I reached out to DC Automotive and ordered a cut-out floor board. While it was really expensive to ship, it showed up in one piece. Now I can get the rust out permanently!
That aint rust... that's Porsche patina!! ha!
Shoot... I lived through the 70s. (see below) Everything rusted back then! My buddy had an International Scout that was so rusted the seats bounced going down the road and you could visibly see the road beneath your feet.
40 some years ago a guy I worked with had a VW Beetle. The floor pan was rusted through and the seats were about to fall through to the asphalt. His fix, no doubt decided by the lack of a fat wallet, was to put eye bolts through the nice solid roof panel with chains dropping down and connecting to the seat rails. Problem sorted.
