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Use high beam

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Here in Canada where DRL are mandatory, all my previous cars used the high beam run at half power for the DRL...very effective imo.

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Replace standard h3 halogens

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I've tried using LED bulbs to replace the standard H3 halogens but they weren't anywhere near bright enough and they died after 6 months.

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Use projector hids

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My 99 C2, Canadian origin, used the projector HIDs for DRL...

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Replace standard h3 halogens

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I've tried using LED bulbs to replace the standard H3 halogens but they weren't anywhere near bright enough and they died after 6 months.

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Run light hack

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I made the daytime running light hack on my 986 since it's required by law in sweden to have the lights on at all time.

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Use hi-beams

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As far as using hi-beams for DRLs NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

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Replace standard h3 halogens

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I've tried using LED bulbs to replace the standard H3 halogens but they weren't anywhere near bright enough and they died after 6 months.

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Run light hack

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I made the daytime running light hack on my 986 since it's required by law in sweden to have the lights on at all time.

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Use hi-beams

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As far as using hi-beams for DRLs NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

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Use high beam

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Here in Canada where DRL are mandatory, all my previous cars used the high beam run at half power for the DRL...very effective imo.

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Use led bulbs

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I've tried using LED bulbs to replace the standard H3 halogens but they weren't anywhere near bright enough and they died after 6 months.

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Use leds as headlight replacements, probably not

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Can you use LEDs as headlight replacements, probably not, for the fogs, especially as DRLs they are great

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Use low beam at full power

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My 03 C2 uses the low beam at full power for the DRL which is equally as effective but burns through the $100 HID bulbs a little faster.

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Use projector hids

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My 99 C2, Canadian origin, used the projector HIDs for DRL...

Fog lights as DRL?

Use reflector/lens combo in your 9x6 headlights

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As far as LEDs vs halogen, yes, they don't have the same effective light output using the reflector/lens combo in your 9x6 headlights, but product far less heat and thus a lower likelihood for plastic discoloration when on all the time.

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Use single jumper wire

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The hack is connecting the fog light relay to the fog light fuse using a single jumper wire with fuse taps and disconnects.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey all, I came across this on a 986 forum a while back and was wondering if anybody did the DRL hack on their 996. The hack is connecting the fog light relay to the fog light fuse using a single jumper wire with fuse taps and disconnects. Many people switch from the halogen H3 bulb to an LED bulb to avoid yellowing on the lenses and a brighter "present day" light output. I've only seen this in person on a 996.1, but i'm sure theres 02+ models with the hack as well. Has anyone done this? What are your thoughts?

POST 2Original post

My only thought would be, why? If you feel safer with the lights on, turn them on.

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No I agree, personally I think it would be out of place... But on the turbo's it does look nice. Just want to hear people's opinions. My fogs are upgraded halogens but not DRL's. LED's are stupid, and have absolutely zero visibility.

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the point of DRLs is to make you more visible during the day. There have been numinous studies that show they are effective in preventing some accidents. No, I don't have links for them, I read them years ago before Al Gore invented the internet. As far as LEDs vs halogen, yes, they don't have the same effective light output using the reflector/lens combo in your 9x6 headlights, but product far less heat and thus a lower likelihood for plastic discoloration when on all the time. The reflector/lens were designed for a specific lamp emitting light in a specific way. Most LEDs output light differently Can you use LEDs as headlight replacements, probably not, for the fogs, especially as DRLs they are great

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The purpose of DRL's is for you to be seen from a fair distance, the low and wide beam pattern of fog lights would not be a good fit. I jumpered the high side of the seat heating fuse to the street/parking lights which also powers the W5W, euro DRL bulb in the headlight assembly.

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Automatic DRLs is a nice feature. Plus only high beams are really adequate as DRLs.

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Whatever works for you IMHO, fog light are fairly useless for pure illumination. The parking lights are better? If its the bulb I am thinking about, in Mk2 lights they just give the headlight a little glow, they have no projection at all. Mk1 lights don't have it at all As far as using hi-beams for DRLs NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. They blind people even in the day. That's a really inconsiderate thing to do. I find my LED fogs work just fine and make my silver car much easier to see

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Here in Canada where DRL are mandatory, all my previous cars used the high beam run at half power for the DRL...very effective imo. My 03 C2 uses the low beam at full power for the DRL which is equally as effective but burns through the $100 HID bulbs a little faster. AFAIK there's no way to turn them off completely with the car running..

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Not a fan of DRL's. Now that "everybody" has them they really don't offer any real benefit, other than give another driver something to aim for. And I get a mite ticked off when dusk falls and bozos are driving around with their DRL's on as if that's good enough. Ditto in the rain. If the wipers are on turn on the damn headlights! The real things, not the goofy DRL's. BTW, the fog lights on my 996 Turbo are useless. Really the bi-xenon lights are so good fog lights are for show. (Now the fog lights on my Boxster are not useless, but pretty good in fog. 'course, the plain old headlights are not nearly as good as the bi-xenon in my Turbo and the Boxster needs all the help it can get in the lighting department.) If you need DRL's just turn on the headlights. Low beam!

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DRL, were never for show, they exist to help your car stand out a little more in the daytime, clearly better than a car without them....function over form. That said, I'm not a big fan of them either and yes, especially at dusk, many people forget to turn on their real headlights because they think they're already on when driving.........

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I made the daytime running light hack on my 986 since it's required by law in sweden to have the lights on at all time. Went pretty smooth.

POST 12Original post

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True, fog lights only provide BLING for those that have the need.

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My 99 C2, Canadian origin, used the projector HIDs for DRL... BAD! I retrofitted to W5W.

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You could take the DRL relay out? Mine has been broken forever and I am not sure I want to get a new one.

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I removed the relay hoping to disable DRLs. Unfortunately, this also disables hi-beams and license plate lights.

POST 16Original post

How do you known when a Porsche owner is a RedNeck.... They want to disable DRLs...

POST 17Original post

Mine has had the fog lights wired as DRL since it came over from the US to Canada. Much cheaper to replace those bulbs (twice in the last 9 years) than xenon bulbs!

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Mine too. I've tried using LED bulbs to replace the standard H3 halogens but they weren't anywhere near bright enough and they died after 6 months. I either use the standard H3 halogen bulbs (for ~$5 each) which last quite a few years, or upgrade to the super-white H3 halogen bulbs for several times the price. The super-white H3 bulbs (ie by PIAA) only seem to last about a year for me as DRL.

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I'm with Pongo - my '02 has been configured the same way and works fine. - no yellowing of lenses so far - the dash lights don't come on so by nightfall headlights are put on if you want to see your display or at least that works for me - I agree that high beams even during daylight hours aren't responsible - fog lamps in the daytime provide plenty of attention for oncoming traffic at reasonable distances. I don't think they do anything for me...but then my headlights don't do a heck of a lot for me in daylight either.

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