FS 996 C2 - how much is it worth ?

I have been looking at updating to a GT3 for a while and I am now seriously thinking about selling my car. Here are the window sticker options: 2003 Porsche 911 - 996 C2 coupe Slate grey Black full leather with dark grey deviated stiching Carbon interior package OEM Self dimming mirror interior-exterior Power seats Xenon headlamp Rear center console carbon lowered seats 10mm Carbon door sil Special Chassis rigidity tune Bose package Remote Cd The car has 38,000 miles The car has a clean carfax. The RMS was redone under the previous owner CPO, never leaked again since. IMS is stock. I have tons of paperwork showing all the car history, including window sticker, previous owner cpo paper, PPI from when I purchased the car. I have 3 keys, 2 main 'regular' keys and a third one that has no transmitter 'head', may be a vallet key or something, I never used it. It seems to have been very reliable all its life considering the only thing that was replaced were the RMS and the battery I have documented all the mods on Rennlist and took care of oil change myself on regular basis. The car went to Porsche for the 30k service so that I would keep my extended warranty in check. The extended warranty is good until May 2012 and is the Fidelity plan, which I paid $2,800 for when I bought the car almost 2 years ago. 1- What do you think it is worth with the mods on ? - Dension Ipod/Iphone connection - Tequipment rollbar - Euro GT3 seats - B&M short throw shifter assembly - Rennline aluminum shift handle' - Traqmate + chasecam - PSS9 remanufactured last year by bilstein (the pictures are showing the previous setup RoW-M030, it rides lower now) - GT3 brake ducts - GT3 sway bars front and rear - Tarett drop link front and rear - High flow cat converter - FisterD mod 2 - What do you think it is worth without the mods that are easy to remove and resale, I know the cost of the parts, but I wonder how much you think I can gain by putting it back to stock, as I might have less interest in the modded cars based on what I have seen from previous seller on the forums, they usually part out their car : - Tequipment rollbar ($600) - Euro GT3 seats ($2,000) - Traqmate + chasecam ($1,000) 3- Do you think I should have the car get a PPI myself at a reputable local dealer ?

Great looking car!! I can't speak to the value of the car but since I've been in the market and have been looking my guess would be $30-33K if it were back to stock. The mods you've done do narrow the buyer field. I'm going through the exact same thing with my SC right now. I have some very basic mods that can easily be reversed back to stock by someone if they choose too, but there aren't a lot of people out there looking for modded cars. And the kicker with the mods I did is they are all (aside from seats and duck tail) IMPROVEMENTS over the original equip. Things such as wheels, exhaust, etc.... I'd put it back to stock (keep the wheels, they look awesome) and list it for a couple grand more than you're willing to take and go form there.

This is almost the most beautiful 996 C2 I ever seen. Glows.

If you want to know if there are any issues, get the PPI. I would never use the owner's PPI or shop if I were a potential buyer.

It's very hard to price aftermarket mods into a car's value unless you find just the right buyer. Some people will love them and others will be turned off. For example, I wouldn't expect to get more for your car because of the wheels. You might find someone who opts for you car over another C2 they're looking at because the other C2 doesn't have them. Then again, someone might see it as a deal killer and prefer the original wheels. Either way, in my opinion, you're apt to make more money on most of the mods (wheels, seats, cam, etc.) if you pull them and sell them separately. MkII C2s are routinely trading in the $28-30K range. Your car has low mileage, looks like it has been very well maintained and does have some nice add-ons. I'd price it over the average (in the low $30s) and see who bites. I don't know how much you paid but $30K is probably a decent price for it...but sell the mods separately and you'll make out much better. Others will disagree with me and point out that you can get a Turbo for $35K. Dare I say, "whatever?" Just remember, you can always take less but you can't ever ask for more. Just my $.02, -Eric

Phil, keep the seats, tequip bar and traqmate for the GT3. As far as the sways and drop links go...? I know you installed them recently. Do you want to spend the time to remove them? If so, im sure you will find a buyer. Heck I might be tempted as ill have some work to do to keep up with your GT3. I would guess that someone would be glad to buy your car for $30,000 considering your records and miles. Good luck whatever you decide.

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Any $35k turbo will probably require $5k of repair and reconditioning. This 996 is as nicely optioned and modded as I have seen, with lots of history and low mileage to boot. You might consider finding a high-end foreign car dealer - or even your local Porsche dealer - to consign the car for you. They can cast a wide net and list the car for a premium price. In the end you can probably make a little more money than selling it yourself, and you don't have to deal with any of the hassle.

Beautiful car! Those headlight covers are the only ones I've ever seen that I like. Does anyone know what they are and if they make a similar model for the Mk1 996?

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At least that and you'll still have a car that was likely mistreated. I wouldn't touch a $35K Turbo with a 10 foot pole. -Eric

Great looking car! Worth at least $30K in closer to stock form.

I would say 29k to 31k range some people might not like the silver stripe on front windshield, on mine I have a Porsche decal in silver. BTW what wheels are those? 18's or 19's looks nice very clean. GLWS!

the wheels are champion rg5b replica that you can see for sale very often on the local miami.craigslist.com in 18"

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I think Eric is spot on. It is all about the potential buyer. If I was in the market now I would be drawn to your car like a moth to a flame because of the track oriented mods. On the other hand someone else may see the same things and be worried about how much has the car been abused on the track. So, how much track time has the car seen? If I were in your shoes I would pull (for possible resale) the seats, bar, camera, and reinstall the original seats. I would not even consider pulling the suspension pieces out unless you can do it yourself and have that kind of time on your hands. Then put it up for sale, buy the GT3 of your dreams, and not look back.

Yea, locally i would say in the $29k - 30k range is abount right. I emailed to a buddy of mine locally who was looking. I may pick up the roll bar if you decide to sell it as i am local too.

I would start it at 33k minimum and not go lower than 30k, especially if you have some time. Add to these prices any of the major mods you decide to leave on. Your car has a great look and history that will make it more desireable and help it sell quicker. If you provide a current independent PPI that will be another big positive for quicker sale. GLWS

Phil: Throw your buyer's net out as far and wide as you can throw it. As has been suggested to you, take out the roll bar (fairly easy) and swap out the GT3 seats. (you might want to put them in your new GT3). A buyer won't pay you extra for those and the "track presence" may scare off many potential buyers. They are worth more to you if sold on RL, 6 speed, etc. I wouldn't bother with the changing the sway bars, too much time/work/$$$. If you change back the shocks, then it will require a fresh alignment, I wouldn't bother with this either. The GT3 brake ducts are an inexpensive mod, removal is a snap, if you leave 'em no big deal. Take out the chase cam, tho. You car appears to be mint and well maintained. That will be the strongest selling features along with the low miles. Best of luck to you with the sale and good luck in the hunt for the GT3. I would be pysched to know what you ultimatley wind up with.

Scott, You should buy it and turn your C2 into a track slave... Or, I should buy it so I can stop driving Luda's Cayenne.

a transferable warranty is what you have that adds value, the suspension is good and even the seats and harness bar, but all of those together make a nice package. Go to kbb.com, edmunds.com, and nada.com get the retail/private party sale prices between the three and average them. That will make a realistic price close to what you want and close to what a buyer should pay. You may think $35K is perfect for your car, and the dealer may offer $18K as a trade in which are both hypothetical numbers, but the average of the three numbers those sites give you is probably fair. I am selling my car, and I'd love to sell it for $27K or even $28K, but using the average of the three worked for me and I have a NICE car, with good records.

Great car with great mods, BUT as everybody pointed out... try and get out as many mods as you can out of car and put it back to stock. The fact that car seems well documented (with window sticker) helps. I will say high $20ks ($29k~) without all the mods (seats, bars, suspension??, wheels) if possible. I think positing on Ebay or Autotrader will get more attention also GLWS

You have sweet looking 996, what do you think your car is worth? Some will like your mods, others won't. Before removing any of them, I'd advertise your Porsche as is and see what reaction potential buyers have as it sits. You can always adjust your price accordingly either way. I hope you sell it so we can see your GT3.GLWS Phil.

Remove the GT3 Seats and other easily removed mods to get back to the MSRP invoice options. Some may recall this car which I bought from X51 in Omaha: https://rennlist.com/forums/for-sale...1+carrera+2002 This would be a comparable car with some differences but the replaced IMS is a big positive to someone who would know. Also, I have someone who asked today about an Anniversary 2004 and he should definitely look at your car. If you email me 997.alex (AT) gmail.com I will gladly put him in contact with you. Good luck.

Still love the car but I feel like buying something new So the car is now for sale. Rennlist price (firm): $35k with the mods (gt3 seats, traqmate, tequipment bar and all) I'll see if I have any luck, if not I'll start the de-moding.. and update price.

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I have to agree with Eric here. I would be put off with the seats which tells me that the car was either tracked or at least hammered by some young wanna be racing car driver. Not that the car wouldnt stand up to being hammered but this is still a 996 and they sell for much less than other 911 models. The wide wheels wouldnt put me off one bit. BUT I would be more inclined to look seriously into a stock looking car than one that had been zooped up in any way. ( but thats just me).. I would be thinking. 'So where else has the PO been tampering'. Maybe in the electrical department, then I would be put off. As it is you could ask 38K and settle at 35K. But if someone had 35K maybe they would be looking at a newer model. If it doesn't sell then return to stock and price it at 30K.. Whichever way, good luck on your deal

ok the car will be back for sale shortly I think. since then I got the aerobat installed, all factory brand new parts, costed me something like $7k or so, painted and installed by dealer tons of high resolutions pictures at this link, taken a month ago: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m9tp2r7zr...8nJbKZTku8a?m= RMS went out and replaced under warranty along with slave cylinder. IMS not leaking and clutch has plenty of life left. Also done at the dealership. odometer: 45,000 miles on it. Still 6 month of the extended warranty, until october I believe. Everything working perfectly. check my post on the forum for more details on the car. I have the will wood hitch system installed on the car. How much do you think it is worth as it is ? I bet I will have to part it out so far the only aftermarket item on the car are the equipment roll bar and the euro gt3 seats. As for the gizmos I have: - dension 500 to connect ipod to factory audio system - fisterD exhaust - high flow catalytic converters - RoW M030 suspension, +- 15,000 miles on them - braided brake lines - willwood hitch with all the proper electrical connections - bumper plug color matched door lock ...plugs a tons of other stuff I'll have to sell in my garage as spare wheels and parts ;S

damn Phil, the car looks wicked with the .2 aero bits. I hope you can recover most of the cost if you sell. In the meantime we should meet at HMS once more for a final thrashing... stay in touch eh?

Yes it does. Very purposeful, with attitude. GLWS. What are you driving now?

this is not my daily driver, I still love the car and really have a hard time thinking of selling it but prices seems to have gone up substantially so may be time to sell for me. I don't think I'll get the money for the aerobat so I will most likely retrofit the wing and front bumper to OEM it is a very easy job and these pieces are very pricey so hopefully i will find a buyer in here. Side skirts are the only thing I will leave on as I don't want to risk having scratched paint underneath and these are cheap anyways. If someone is looking for a super clean aerobat car, PM me, this is a really nice car, no expense spared and has always be sea reliable to me. I think I had 10 track days since I own the car and I always came back home with a smile and not even a drop of oil needed to top it off. But I don't want to ginx it LOL. oh I also had the water pump replaced under warranty, but caught it very early during my routine checks and it did not leave me stranded.

Just a great looking car. Great mods, well done. That's easily a $30K 996... if you can find the right buyer. And that's a big if unfortunately. Hard to finance as it's over 10 years. Plus, the real value of the car is creeping up to nice 03-04 C4S level, making it tough. The best 996 C2 is not worth more than a comparable condition/mileage C4S. Finally, if I were interested in any 996 with low mileage, I would negotiate a discount to install an upgraded IMS bearing. Just saying... it's reality and lots of buyers know the deal. Good luck.

Great looking car Phil! Good luck with sale. Hopefully it stays on rennlist.

i remember your car photos from a post years ago regarding the headlight wrap - your 996 is a great example and is one of the reasons i started looking for a grey C4S - i've always loved silver but the grey sold me. you have one of the best looking C2's i've seen. i didn't have time this morning to read thru description or other posts but if IMS has been done, i don't see why your car wouldn't command close to $30K in this depressed 996 market. if you have original seats, sell it with stock seats and capture a couple more thousand selling them separately - the stock seats may actually entice someone who normally wouldn't want a racing type seat