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YOUR RESEARCHFactory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

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Replace motor, i'm pretty sure i got boned

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When I replaced my motor, I'm pretty sure I got boned for an extra 6 to 8 inches.

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Check metal meticulously

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Watch you filter like an owl and check for metal meticulously with a feather, finger the sump, and if all is bad foot the bill.

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Use inaccurate price in his

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It was just clearing the air, since he used an inaccurate price in his for sale ad.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Check metal meticulously

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Watch you filter like an owl and check for metal meticulously with a feather, finger the sump, and if all is bad foot the bill.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Use gearhead lingo

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This is what happens when a checkbook mechanic tries to use gearhead lingo.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Use lot of parts

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I guess they are using a lot of parts from your old motor like headers, exhaust manifolds, etc ?

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet
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Watch you filter like an owl and check for metal meticulously with a feather, finger the sump, and if all is bad foot the bill.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Replace motor, i'm pretty sure i got boned

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When I replaced my motor, I'm pretty sure I got boned for an extra 6 to 8 inches.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Use gearhead lingo

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This is what happens when a checkbook mechanic tries to use gearhead lingo.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Use inaccurate price in his

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It was just clearing the air, since he used an inaccurate price in his for sale ad.

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet

Use lot of parts

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I guess they are using a lot of parts from your old motor like headers, exhaust manifolds, etc ?

Factory crate 3.6 motor still on pallet
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Cross posted from the parts section: https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-marketplace-old/886060-996-3-6-crate-motor.html

POST 2Original post

Not a bad deal... Just for consideration, my engines are base priced at 20,500 but they are not stock, and all have the IMS Solution and LN Nickies, making a minimum of 25HP and 40# more torque than factory.

POST 3Original post

Quotes source post: 12475022

No need to pollute OP's original sales thread. You're a sponsor so you can always create your own thread for something like this.

POST 4Original post

It was just clearing the air, since he used an inaccurate price in his for sale ad. I also do not build any stock engines, which is what his engine is. While the rules state that I can place an ad, I've never done it here, it leads to nothing positive. The OP is offering a GREAT deal on this crate engine. Its a steal.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 12475086

Fair enough. It's hard to keep up with engine prices these days. I just looked at a 3yo thread for example and the poster posted his dealer receipt for $12k for reman from Porsche. I had to look at it twice. It's kinda ironic that the 996 is no where near collector status yet the parts still keep climbing through the roof, and not just engines either.

POST 6Original post

Dunno why you would pay $18K for a new engine for a 12 to 14 year old car when you can pick up a perfectly good used one for $10K or so.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 12476434

A perfectly good used one ? Good luck with that roll of the dice. You can buy something like this and hope there's nothing wrong with it or spend another 4500 to know what you've got. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Porsche...dd12b2&vxp=mtr

POST 8Original post

That's a fantastic deal. The factory re manufactured units have a great reliability record

POST 9Original post

As ridiculous as I think it is to put that kind of money into a 996, it isn't any more expensive (actually less probably) than a air-cooled model reworking. I still plan on selling my corpse to Jake if it ever comes to that.

POST 10Original post

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It's all a gamble unless you go with the Mezger engine or the newer DFI. Anyhow, good luck with the sale.

POST 11Original post

What I paid for my motor from Porsche, I literally picked it up this week so I'd say it's the most current price. Bear in mind I paid 15k up front and this was my cost after the core charge.

POST 12Original post

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Are they stock 3.6L in displacement, bore and stroke the same as the factory?

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 12478538

Looks about the same as what I was quoted at the Porsche dealer here. But, they also estimated another $12K to $15K for labour charges.

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 12478775

yeah, I had some other issues that needed fixing but all in all I paid around 23k for everything.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source posts: 12478538, 12478775

So they basically have to order all the parts now and build you a motor ? What's a short block ? I guess they are using a lot of parts from your old motor like headers, exhaust manifolds, etc ? This motor is totally complete. including headers. The way they used to sell them.

POST 16Original post

Normally a short block means only the block with the rotating assembly. No heads. Long block is usually with heads but nothing else (no accesories like manifolds, alternator, PS pump, etc.). I see one of the itmes is 24 head bolts, so this is just the block with the rotating assembly.

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 12478775

100 hrs for assembly? Does the mechanic only has one arm and one finger?

POST 18Original post

Quotes source posts: 12478775, 12479050

My motor was also complete .. 1 for 1 ... Porsche shipped it to the mechanic and the mechanic shipped my motor back for the core. There are also a few extras in there I forgot to mention because the short block doesn't fit into my '01 C4 because the '01 was a long block

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Isn't an 01 a 3.4 motor ? Or was that the start of the 3.6 ?

POST 20Original post

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Omfg. That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on the interwebs. A short block and a long block are the same engine in different stages of completion. A long block isn't "longer" than a short block. Did your mechanic charge more to fit the "long block" into your engine bay, or to modify the short one to fit in your long car? If so, you got boned. Wow.

POST 21Original post

Hehehe. This is what happens when a checkbook mechanic tries to use gearhead lingo.

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 12480191

On one hand it's funny... on the other it is depressing. I like to think that most folks are honest, but this reeks of "Let's buttf**k this guy, he's clueless."

POST 23Original post

Quotes source post: 12480158

Are you sure? When I replaced my motor, I'm pretty sure I got boned for an extra 6 to 8 inches. Still sore from that reaming.

POST 24Original post

The long block "crate" engine for the 996 is no longer available from the Porsche factory. They will sell you a short block engine for about $11K, which is the engine without the heads and any ancillaries. The additional labour ($12 to $15K I was quoted) is for work to the heads on the existing engine, and all the labour needed for an engine exchange, plus any ancillary parts that needed to be replaced or upgraded. It all adds up to a lot more than the price I paid for my 997 engine.

POST 25Original post

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02 was the start of the 3.6.

POST 26Original post

Quotes source post: 12480242

did someone throw sand in the Vaseline?

POST 27Original post

Worse than depressing. Anyone who brings a 996 to a dealer for an engine replacement is much worse than clueless. More like bordering on insanity.

POST 28Original post

There's so much I could say on this topic. So much.

POST 30Original post

The factory no longer makes them but new complete engines are still available priced from $48,000 to $51,000 which makes about as much sense as the rest of this thread. You want the part numbers so you can get one while they last?

POST 31Original post

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Not everyone has a local indy. I happen to have an excellent dealer who charges LESS than my indy and does a better job.

POST 32Original post

Quotes source post: 12487405

How is this relevent to what I wrote?

POST 33Original post

Quotes source post: 12488089

Because RL where peeps tend to interpret or read way more into a response and come up with their own conclusions. Wonder if these are the same guys translating hieroglyphics.

POST 34Original post

Alp, are you threatening me? I mean like WTF bruh, what are you trying to say already? Is that you calling and hanging up? Another thread goes down. Anyway, about the engine. Makes no sense.

POST 35Original post

Quotes source post: 12488692

Interestingly, the following is "IMSB" in hieroglyphics. Check it out with a translator. It appears in several pyramids. Perhaps we are all just suffering the consequences of some Egyptian curse. . .

POST 36Original post

Holy crap, he's right. I think this means something.

POST 37Original post

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Watch you filter like an owl and check for metal meticulously with a feather, finger the sump, and if all is bad foot the bill.

POST 38 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Still available . Unless I find a nice 996 roller before this sells .

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