2016 Turbo Line Up and History Repeating Itself

I was just reading that the 2016 Porsche line-up will consist of smaller displacement engines with turbos. If it hasn�t already been said, I see these cars as representing the next generation of engineering design flaws like the chain tensioners, valve guide wear, head gasket materials, IMSB of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s. Imagine the heat-related, low mileage problems for the next generation of the lower-end turbo Porsches. Hopefully, Porsche will have sorted it out, I believe (personally and singularly) that they won't and as such will lead to a shift in perspective about the 996 from used car to classic car status and make the IMS bearing simply either a maintenance item to be changed when other service is needed, or as a permanent fix. Just like all previous generation 911s with their engineering flaws. I�m sure I'm wrong, but just throwing it out there. Cheers!

Your theory lacks all foundation. Porsche, which has roughly 40 years of experience putting turbos on its flat 6 street cars, along with 14 years on doing so with water cooled motor is going to screw up the 991.2? I'm willing to accept that as a theory if you can at least provide some basis for why this motor will suck. Ps, there are far more issues with the m96 than just the ims bearing

Quotes source post: 12492835

They also have a pretty good history of the first generation of new motors having some significant issues. Even the much loved TT/GT3 motors have had their own problems. Those goes across all their model lines and at least back to the 80s. I expect the first gen motors to have some significant, but rare, issues. I also expect that there will be overblown paranoia about. Finally, I expect there to be a bunch of crying (and there already is some) about how it's not a real Porsche and all that BS. I think the result will be that the 991.1 cars will maintain their value a bit better due to being the last NA motors, but I don't expect it to be remotely as drastic as the 996 or that it will have any impact on 996 value.

Every Porsche that I've ever owned has had a potentially disastrous engine flaw. That's nothing new. FWIW, every Porsche that I've ever owned has stained my garage floor with some kind of a leak at some point also.

I'm ordering a car just as soon as they are released.... And as sonar I can buy one of each engine designation, I'll have those too. I'll drive the car 5K miles, gather data, and tear the engine down. Then the fun starts. Its M96/ M97 and 9a1 all over again! Can't wait!

Just so we’re clear and fair, in addition to the M96/97, other 911 engines with engineering flaws include the 911/83, 911/92, 911/93, 911/43, M64/01, 64/06. Have i missed any?

It's not just 911 engines. My first generation Cayenne S had an RMS leak, and the 4.5L V8 used in that car had plastic coolant pipes that could burst and cause a host of problems. I'm sure there are others.

Unless I am missing something, there should be nothing particularly new about Porsche's 2016 water cooled turbocharged engines. Is there some indication from Porsche that their 2016 engines will be significantly different than their current turbocharged engines?

How long did they use IMS's before the M96 came along - 20+ years? Yet they managed to screw the pooch on the bearing for the M96 intermediate shaft.

Quotes source post: 12494741

Since the beginning of the flat 6 it had an IMS! Before that, the 547/1 was the first to use it in the mid 50s. And.... Getting rid if it, wasn't the answer. No problem with the shaft, all sorts of problems with how it was supported in the M96.

Have the come out with model designations? If they are all turbo charged what does the turbo become?

Designations won't likely change. Look at the P!g and P!gglet. The Turbo variant is just more powerful.