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The car looks like nothing has ever been changed on it.

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So, the probability is that the door sills and the seats were changed out to due the car being in a flood, and the rest was from when it got hit by a train.

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Front end damage and a replaced option code sticker?

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So far, nobody has posted saying, "Yeah, that happened with my car." So, that makes me think that they run true to specs.

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The car looks like nothing has ever been changed on it.

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Front end damage and a replaced option code sticker?

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So, the probability is that the door sills and the seats were changed out to due the car being in a flood, and the rest was from when it got hit by a train.

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Run true

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So far, nobody has posted saying, "Yeah, that happened with my car." So, that makes me think that they run true to specs.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

New to the world of the 996 (and Porsche ownership in general) and I have a question. On the underside of the trunk compartment lid, there is the paper label with all the option codes. In decoding mine, I find there are codes for a couple of items that I don't have on my car. For example, there are codes for heated seats, but no heated seats in the car. Are these labels inaccurate like this ordinarily, or does this more likely indicate that the lid has been changed out somewhere along the line? BTW, it's a 2002 C2 coupe. Thanks.

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Probably a really dumb question but are you sure that the seats aren't heated?

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https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/option-codes/996/

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No, no heat for the seats. Also has codes for "8-way power seats", but the seats move for and aft manually. Only has power for up and down and seatback recline. Other than that, the codes match the equipment on the car. The only options the vehicle has for real are 18" Carrera wheels and a CD changer up front.

POST 5Original post

Perhaps, previous owner(s) swapped the seats out? Aside from the sticker, you can also try a VIN decoder to get a build sheet for your car

POST 6Original post

Are there even switches for the heater seats on the "batwing" right above the shifter http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-9...ater-srch.html Even if the previous owner swap out the seats, it's unlikely he swapped out the heated seat switches as well.

POST 7Original post

Take a picture of the seats.. The previous owner may have swapped them out for sport seats..

POST 8Original post

Hmmm... Front end damage and a replaced option code sticker? Does the VIN on the sticker match?

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes, the VIN on the paper label matches the car's. The only switches are for the windows, but there are two blank switches on the console behind the ashtray. Nothing on the batwing. The label code for the interior is: "AA", which is for standard black leather, and I'm pretty sure that's what I have. Smooth with some stitching going straight across the seat from one bolster to the other. (Just too dark to take pics right now.) According to the label, there were stainless steel sill plates (mine are rubber with "Carrera" script in silver), 8-way power seats, heated seats and headlamp washer coded on to this vehicle. If the headlamp washer is that oval chrome thing that sits on top of those sweet-lookin' headlamps, then, nope, none of those, either. So, as has been suggested, the possibility exists that due to being damaged and/or changed out by the previous owner, all these items that were once on the car have now been changed. But I don't think so. The car looks like nothing has ever been changed on it. Which begs the question: Are these labels etched in stone? So far, nobody has posted saying, "Yeah, that happened with my car." So, that makes me think that they run true to specs. So, the probability is that the door sills and the seats were changed out to due the car being in a flood, and the rest was from when it got hit by a train. : /

POST 11Original post

Or your car was built on a Monday during octoberfest perhaps. I bet it will implode shorty.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

That makes the most sense. I already found out about the imploding part elsewhere in these forums. I did try to decode the VIN, but it didn't decode the options. I really wish I had a copy of the original Monroney label. That (or a build sheet) would at least be something to match up to the label, I think.

POST 13Original post

What you are referring to is a "COA." Certificate of Authenticity. It's available through Porsche for around $125. Go to their web-site and start the process. Be patient, it takes a while, but you will receive the build date, options, motor number, trans number, paint color, etc. That's, of course, after you provide the chassis number. http://www.porsche.com/usa/accessori...fauthenticity/

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I did some searching on this forum and got a build sheet from a PCNA URL. For free! Awesome! According to the MSRP, the options were: 18" wheels ($1325), CD Changer (715), Black mats w/Porsche lettering (115), $71645 total. So, now I still have the label with these other codes for stuff that really never was put on this car and that doesn't match up with the original MSRP sticker. Weird, huh?

POST 15Original post

The Australian delivered models have a duplicate option code attached to the first page of the owners handbook.... Do you have a copy of the the handbook? If so, does it match what's attached to the hood?

POST 16Original post

You got the "sweepstakes car"... When Porsche built it, they said if anyone figures out the puzzle of the frunk sticker, it'll become the only truly collectible 996 ever built and retain at least it's sticker value forever!

POST 17Original post

I have the same situation as the OP. Frunk sticker matches the maintenance book sticker, and lists codes not on the build sheet. Car is an 04 C4S coupe. Some of the codes to do not match. For example, the code for Xenon Headlights on the build sheet is P74, but its 601 on the sticker. Codes from https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/option-codes/996/ on my sticker not on the build sheet and not installed on the car include 342 (seat heating), 411 (18" Carrera 5-spoke wheels, car has twists), 551 (Wind Deflector) and 586 (Lumbar support, left seat). http://www.964uk.com/Documents/Porsc...on%20Codes.pdf lists some different interpretation of these codes. 411 could be (Licence bracket, front) which could make sense. Code 551 makes no sense since it is the wind deflector for a cab, and the car is a coupe! Listed on both is option XCZ (Sport Shifter). I assume this is the factory SSK, which the car did not have when I got it, so there is one option that was evidently removed. Original owner was in Hawaii, so I can see removing the heated seats. So, I concluded that perhaps the stickers include dealer installed options not on the build sheet, and in my car's case past owners removed some of those options for whatever reason. Bill

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm beginning to feel like there could be mistakes in the frunk stickers. If not outright mistakes, then changes to the car during assembly, possibly. I could just imagine two assembly line workers looking at a cab wind deflector and trying to figure out where it goes on a coupe - and then just going on to the next item. I have purchased new Mercedes vehicles in the past. Once or twice, when the exact combo of equipment/color was not readily available, the dealer would make changes to one of the cars that had already been ordered for regular inventory. Maybe the cars with mis-matched codes like this were last minute changes to turn an inventory vehicle into a sold vehicle?

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