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YOUR RESEARCHOil top up - what to use?
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Replace oil in my garage, no lift/ramps needed
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Ian, I just changed my oil in my garage, no lift/ramps needed.
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"Ian, I just changed my oil in my garage, no lift/ramps needed."
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You must send it here and have it tested for accuracy for $5,965:
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If you wish, cut open/inspect your used filter and send oil to Blackstone for UoA.
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First to the OP: if you are going to drive it before getting the oil change, by all means top off with oil.
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Anyway, I'm sorry, but this isn't rocket science and it's really no more involved than my changing the oil on my waterpump guzzi motorcycle engine, the 4.0 Jeep, or my Gf's Jetta.
Replace oil and filter, look at filter through the new
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- Go online and buy a microscope, change the oil and filter, look at filter through the new to you microscope while wearing a rolex and posting pictures on here.
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Having just picked up a 996 I checked and I have oil just on the dipstick but no idea what's in it! I have looked at all the threads and am not sure if I should just top up with recommended oil so 5w 40 ACEA A3 or should I wait for a full oil change at the service so I know what's in it in case anything odd's been added like non synthetic by the previous owner / garage. I'm just worried I add some
thing that does not mix
I may just be being precious but its a lot of dosh to **** up.
Ian
Different schools of thought.
- There are 9 or so quarts of oil in one of these, adding another one to top it off of a different brand isn't going to do much as long as it's an approved oil.
- Change it all because it's a new to you car and start from scratch.
- Go online and buy a microscope, change the oil and filter, look at filter through the new to you microscope while wearing a rolex and posting pictures on here. Freakout at anything that looks like anything in the oil filter, wonder about your IMS, RMS, PMS, SOS...
- Wear your Rolex and take it somewhere with a hot receptionist that charges $300 for a oil change.
No matter what you do be sure to ask if they use a new virgin crushwasher on the drain plug and that they torque it down to spec and (since it was a virgin) that they brag about it later to friends.
[edit] with warm/hot oil those 9 or so quarts comes out fast. Be SURE to have a large enough pan or device to catch it all and/or/both do it in a friends driveway or yard in case you make a mess.
Chiamac, Ian may not be "seasoned" enough to catch your DRIFT 😉
Ian, I just changed my oil in my garage, no lift/ramps needed. 37 ft-lbs for drain plug, 19 ft-lbs for filter. If you wish, cut open/inspect your used filter and send oil to Blackstone for UoA.
P.S. Stand by for an oil debate to ensue shortly.
=)
One of the biggest benefits to these engines is being able to take the filter apart and inspect what's going on.
I'm not a fan of sending oil in unless there is a suspected problem, but it's harmless anyway and whatever floats peoples boats. Over a few changes those tests should give a baseline of what the engine is doing.
Indeed, a lift or ramps will make the job 500% easier & faster. Was solo when I did the job (no wife/daughters as assistants) so had to make do with the drivewy.
Going to dealer is not comfortable (at least to me). I have to take time off of work which costs money.
Changed oil in my car in like 15 minutes not counting the drain time as I enjoyed a beer and watched the latest episode of Street Outlaws.
Indeed! But how do you know your torque wrench is accurate? You must send it here and have it tested for accuracy for $5,965:
National Institute of Standards and Technology
100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8222
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8222
http://www.nist.gov/calibrations/force.cfm#23060s
Only then will you truly know that you are applying "***** on accurate" 19 ft/lbs of torque. I think anything less is just well....well....ummmm...silly?
Use only the finest Castor Bean oil, as specified for the early 356 Hirth Roller bearing crank engines.
http://flymotorsports.com/blendzall-...FdYSHwodX80FmQ
All joking aside, you should get your Torque calibrated periodically. I have mine checked every few years and it always comes back within spec. Just did it again recently and it was off through out the entire range. It's not expensive - we usually only use the Tq wrench on critical fasteners so....
Also, for those that aren't aware, always set the wrench back to zero when you're done with it. Working in aviation these are little things I've learned over the years. The mechanics I work with have to have their Tq wrenches calibrated once a year (for obvious reasons).
Well, I'm not a lube specialist but I know the importance of doing this job right and just as importantly how to do it right.
You guys give the new guy, the OP, a load of snarky comments and suggest an oil change for one of these cars is no more involved than a Lawnboy lawn mower oil change.
I feel sorry for the OP. I hope he gets the right info form the DIY link at renntech.
He got nothing of any value you the rest of you here.
I'm getting old, the Lawnboys I'm used to didn't have any oil to change.
Anyway, I'm sorry, but this isn't rocket science and it's really no more involved than my changing the oil on my waterpump guzzi motorcycle engine, the 4.0 Jeep, or my Gf's Jetta. The only difference is the massif amounts of oil that go into one of these things and that it's a little more expensive than the above mentioned vehicles.
[edit] I'm sorry, the Guzzi requires me to take out 14 bolts and drop the pan to replace the filter, or buy a $300 external filter sump. So, in a way that's MORE complicated than changing the oil on one of these cars.
Ok, maybe, maybe, I'll give you the point that the oil filter for these is different, but that's easy enough to find instructions for.
Really the hardest thing about it is not making a mess, which is why I suggested a friends driveway.
=)
And I'm sorry that you can't have some fun with a oil thread in an otherwise slow week.
Really? Changing the oil in a 996 is so complex that OP needs to visit multiple sites to get the info?
A lobotomized chimp could change the oil in a 996. We all know how much you enjoy making the easy complex and the complex Byzantine, but your hand-wringing about OP not getting sufficient info for an oil change is ludicrous, even for you.
On the plus side, you made your disdain evident in less than 40,000 words, which is nice.
OP, if you feel that you have been cheated out of information you need, feel free to send me a private message and I'll explain the intricacies of the M96 oil change. Even though, like Macster, I'm not a "lubrication specialist."
You won't even need a Celette bench for the oil change. I promise.
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My goodness. The OP noticed the oil was a bit low on the dipstick and asked whether he should top up or wait for a full oil change at the service. Then Kromdom made a good suggestion to just do a full oil change and DIY if able to.
First to the OP: if you are going to drive it before getting the oil change, by all means top off with oil. More than likely it is synthetic oil so no worries.
Second to the OP: Good idea to get a full oil change, either at the service or DIY. It is up to you when, but it will bring peace of mind knowing "what is in there." I'm afraid we got way off on this one. Good luck!
Honestly, I'm amazed that the oil low comment didn't earn OP a thousand-word warning that his RMS was leaking, that intermix was probably at fault, and/or that the AOS was in critical need of replacement. Once a certain member starts waxing poetic about possible causes of benign symptoms, nothing is off the table.