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YOUR RESEARCHBreaking hard to stop.
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If you have no record of it being changed might be worth a flush through with some fresh fluid , hope this helps ?
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Optimally, you'd use the capitalized S instead of the apostrophe to differentiate between "a 911S" and "many 911s," but in some cases - like ad copy where an entire sentence is capitalized - the apostrophe can add clarity.
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Breaking in the 2001 996 I bought it really tough. I really have to stand on the pedal to stop. Is this a common fault? or is this normal for this car?
Just had a service and full mechanic inspection and nothing was flagged with the brakes at all.
Could be anything from car having tracks pads (which have to heat up before they "bite") to a bad booster.
I assume the 2001 uses vacuum to power the brake booster? If so, that should be an easy check as well.
Whatever the problem may be (as outlined above, there could be several), what you're experiencing is NOT normal
. The braking with all stock brake parts is/should be outstanding. Get it fixed asap for safety's sake.
Just putting it out there......Is it dangerous or just more than you are use too? When i purchased mine i also thought it took more effort than i expected to stop the car. Drove a few others and they were all the same. Only took me a few weeks to get use to it. Now i track the car and can tell you it has NO issue stopping. I just have more "feel" for the brake now.
I only ask this because i assume the mechanic that looked at the car for you was competent and would have noted an issue if it had one.
Depends what you compare the breaking with. On most standard passenger cars the breaking is very light and abrupt. On Porsche you need to apply some power to get into hard breaking. Makes it much more precise and easy to modulate braking power. In a normal car it is more soft or hard braking, nothin really in between.
If you are able to get the ABS to kick in with a strong foot pressure I suppose you are not used to the breaking feel of a Porsche.
Otherwise go back to who serviced the car and ask them to confirm all is okay.
^^^ This is true... Often when I drive other cars (especially an Audi A3) the brakes feel ridiculously touchy - albeit with no "feel"... I've never had the feeling in the 911 that I wouldn't be able to stop though - in fact, about a week after getting the car I had a near "emergency" stopping situation (someone pulled out in front of me) which it handled beautifully - I've been very comfortable with the brakes ever since. I've even gone to ceramic pads (almost no dust) and they still have plenty of bite.
I'm staying out of this one. Cars have
brakes
, not breaks! Breaking in a car is much different than braking problems. Simple terminology goes a long way in explaining whatever issue you have.
You don't know my cars. They break...
But yes - I was going to be the ******* and point out that correct spelling is important. Thanks for saving me from that heavy burden.
When I worked at a hardware store as a kid, they'd only give me 15 min for lunch. It was almost impossible to shove down a sandwich and chips in that limited time. They'd be yelling, "Get back to work!" I understand the pressure.
One thing you can look at is the condition of the disks, the disk should be nice and flat with no visible grooves or rippling , if you rub your finger from the outer edge where the pad doesn't touch down onto the disk can you feel a step or ridge , that is your amount of wear right there, the outer lip stays factory but just in from there is where the pads clamp onto the disk so it's where you can see wear occurring , also worth checking the back of the disk, I've had worn disks look bad at the front then when you see the back it's twice as bad , also look into the Caliper at the brake pad , you should be able to see it has a metal backing plate then the braking material , there should be a decent amount of thickness on the pads, when new they must have 35-40mm thickness on them, don't quote me to the millimetre !! Also the rubber brake pipes between the hardline metal pipe and the callipers can deteriorate over time , lastly brake fluid!! If you have no record of it being changed might be worth a flush through with some fresh fluid , hope this helps ?
No, the brakes in the 996 are pretty epic, even lowly base models like mine...
Air in the "break" lines/a leaking brake line resulting in an empty reservoir, glazed pads, one or more stuck caliper pistons, brake booster issues are possible avenues to explore.
Did your mechanic test-drive the car? If not, you might want to suggest that. If you're not comfortable troubleshooting this on your own, call your local independent Porsche mechanic, as they will be much more familiar with how the car ought to be braking vs. whatever is happening in your car.
Yeah man, he changed the pads yesterday. He said the brakes are good. They were pretty worn before. I asked him did he bleed etc. He was pretty sure they're all good. They're a top end mechanics here in Dubai. They got Lambos, Ferraris, AMG'S, Bentley's, Rolls Royce and all sorts of high end **** in there. So I'd expect them to be pretty thorough.
Did you bed the new pads? If the rotors are worn and the pads are new, this might be helpful...
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-brakes-2.html
This is going to sound inflammatory, but these two statements seem inconsistent:
* They're a top end mechanics here in Dubai.
* He was pretty sure they're all good.
🤣 Now that you say it, that's a "page 1" thing isn't it? Seriously though, these guys are good. But I'm now definitely gonna get them to check it out again. Thanks for the reality check.
Breaking or braking bad ... I hope as a non native speaker you all will absolve me from my ignorance.
Are your discs okay? Grooved? Maybe the pads need to wear in a bit to adapt their contact surface to the surface of the partly worn discs.
if your brake pedal had a lot of travel without any initial braking power or not gradually getting stronger then there is something wrong.
if you think the br(e)aking is not as it should have been then you should go back and complain.
When I first bought my car, having no experience with sports car brokens at all, I thought my brokes felt like a block of wood under my foot. Then I realized if I pressed on that block of wood a little harder and made my borks a little warmer, my face would try to come off.
If you can't get your barks to make your face come off then maybe you need to give them a full inspection for wear and tear. Don't be afraid to punish these cars - they love it.
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Never before in the history of unfortunate spelling mistakes have I seen such go on for so long.
Next, how about we attack the 911's and 987's and ATM's instead of the proper (and easier!) 911s, 987s,
etc
?
They always make me want to ask,
911's what?
Heaven help anyone who types the ridiculous Porsche's for plural too?
Or, how about break's and be done with it?
You're entirely right...both MLA and APA styles indicate that a pluralized number does not need an apostrophe. One caveat: in common American English usage, it is acceptable to use an apostrophe when omitting it may introduce confusion. Since the 911S is a variant of the 911, it's permissible to use "911's" instead of "911s" to eliminate possible misinterpretation. Optimally, you'd use the capitalized S instead of the apostrophe to differentiate between "a 911S" and "many 911s," but in some cases - like ad copy where an entire sentence is capitalized - the apostrophe can add clarity.
200 points to you for linguistic pedantry...I approve wholeheartedly and will buy you an adult beverage if you're ever in San Diego.
Speaking of ****-ups (the printers' term for un-commanded upper-case in the printed word), we used to have a colleague who had faked his university degree, and was given away when he advised trainees that any noun, ending in a vowel required
's
for a plural, AND and the noun as a subject of the sentence required an upper-case letter to start.
If he had spoken German he might have been given a pass, but as he did not, was dismissed shortly after by a bigger pedant than I...
I would look at the invoice and see if they charged for brake fluid, and then probably change out the fluid for new and of course bleed at the same time.
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