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YOUR RESEARCHAm I the only one who loves the Panamera?
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Maybe when the new model finally gets here the prices will drop on the used models enough to possibly over look some of these issues, though we prefer to buy new since we (especially her) hang onto cars a long time (01 996 and 07 328 which replaced a 97 F-150).
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My wife wants to get one in a few years to replace her Audi SQ5.
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You would think after all these years Porsche would have listened and changed the design.
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Gas mileage was impressive at close to 26 mpg despite changing the gears to make sure RPMs weren't too constant for break-in.
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The MB dealer has always treated us like royalty but things are changing there.
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Maybe when the new model finally gets here the prices will drop on the used models enough to possibly over look some of these issues, though we prefer to buy new since we (especially her) hang onto cars a long time (01 996 and 07 328 which replaced a 97 F-150).
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Still not beautiful from all angles - but in this price we ranged considered several cars and this was the winner by far for the combination of practicality (rear seats fold down and love the rear hatch), comfort, fun driving experience.
Why all the hate towards the Panamera? It's lines are beautiful (and big), it's fantastic IMO. Granted, I don't have one but If I had the means it would be my 3rd pick of the Porsche family.
I want to like it, I really do. My issues:
* Can't decide on the lines. Some angles look good, others look horrid.
* 2 rear buckets isn't practical enough.
* Poor trunk space (without blocking the rear window).
* Price for the base 2wd/awd just seems way out of line.
Our 3 series is coming up on needing to be replaced in the next few years and we are looking at stepping up a size to the 5. The Panny feels like it should be in that class, but price wise it is in the M5 (which it's not until you get to the GTS or PTT which are even more $$$) or 7 arena. Maybe when the new model finally gets here the prices will drop on the used models enough to possibly over look some of these issues, though we prefer to buy new since we (especially her) hang onto cars a long time (01 996 and 07 328 which replaced a 97 F-150).
But to answer your question, it's the Porsche peaking order. We 996 owners feel it within the 911 grouping, but there is a pretty accepted order at the model level too and the Panny is pretty much considered the bottom. Probably because (feeling, no numbers) it has the least number of enthusiasts buying them.
The design has grown on me, but the proportions just feel off. It looks bloated, like a 2-door design that someone just lengthened and slapped on another row of doors and seats. I don't hate it, but it wouldn't be my first choice if I was looking for a 4-door in that price/performance range.
As much as I hate SUV's, I'd rather take the Cayenne over the Panamera.
Panamera reminds me of what a 4dr 928 could've been.
In an ideal world, Porsche would've came out with this if it wasn't for all the SUV envy that Americans have and I would've already owned one.
We just got a '15 GT� in carbon gray. Love it.
The redesign in '15 that took the "hump" from the rear glass improved the lines. Still not beautiful from all angles - but in this price we ranged considered several cars and this was the winner by far for the combination of practicality (rear seats fold down and love the rear hatch), comfort, fun driving experience.
Looked at S class MB and they are nice cars but don't drive nearly as well as a P. Plus they depreciate worse than most marques out there.
Looked at an E63 AMG wagon. Way too stiff a ride. Sporty - sounded great but it's a pumped up E class and overpriced IMO. Interior was very underwhelming (again...it's an E class).
Didn't consider BMW - just not wild about 5 or 7. Looks just don't do it for us. (I love my 3 series Xdrive wagon but don't like the lines of the sedans. The 2 door coupe lines are nice but we need four doors).
This was really hubby's car but we don't technically have "his" or "hers". It's all "ours" and while I might not make the same choice if it were 100% mine - it's a great car and I can get over the looks because it offers so many other redeeming qualities.
Took it promptly on a 1500 mile trip (the afternoon we picked it up). Gas mileage was impressive at close to 26 mpg despite changing the gears to make sure RPMs weren't too constant for break-in. It also held a TON of stuff in the trunk without any issue of blocking rear glass. All our stuff fit in the hatch with the cover over (although we can remove the cover if more space is needed. I was fairly impressed by carrying capacity.
And the GTS sounds WICKED! Love the exhaust button for quiet or loud option.
We got a Panamera 4S as a loaner when my 911 was in for service late last year. It was very nice. My wife wants to get one in a few years to replace her Audi SQ5.
I agree that the lines are a bit odd, but it is growing on me.
We test drove the base Panamera and I have to admit that to me it felt like a boat. In comparison to the Macan S that we bought, the Macan S - although an SUV - felt much more quick on it's feet and nimble. There is less room in the 2nd row, but it makes no difference to my 2 little boys.
Not my experience. The W222 drives extremely well for a big luxury sedan, which it is. If you want a sporty car, why would you even look at this?
The porsche handles better and is more sporting, but that can't cure ugly.
the *** end of that car is a disaster.
Panamera is a disaster in design. You would think after all these years Porsche would have listened and changed the design. Pricing is through the roof and options list is like an encyclopedia.
Lots of different opinions...just another one. For me a car either looks right or it doesn't. The Maseratis, Coupe and 4 door all look like hookers from a Berlusconi Bonga Bonga party...which brings me to the Panamera. The car looks so heavy that at any moment it could sink into the earth.
Now the Audi A8L...which was also big but somehow looked like it could literally dance.
I have to agree with one of the first reviews that described the Panamera styling as a "911 at a pie eating contest". Sorry but it's true! For me? The first gen Quattroporte does it. Beautiful. Or the BMW E38 2001 740i.
Don't agree re the *** end but to each their own.
We looked at the MB because we've owned several and have a great relationship with our dealer and tech. I agree it drives pretty well for what it is - but after driving a loaner Panamera we enjoyed the experience of a big car that handles darn close to a sports car but still has a comfy ride.
We are also loving the service from Sewickley Porsche. The MB dealer has always treated us like royalty but things are changing there. Since the debut of the CLA the dealership is like a factory. Can't keep cars in stock, and service appts (for most people) are 2 weeks out! We have been able to work our relationships for service whenever we need/want it - but we don't like to take advantage. Our MB-owning friends are frustrated with the service time line.
In addition - hubby has had some significant back surgeries that make him very sensitive to ride - much more so than most people. The MB was comfy for sure but he wanted a sportier driving car and the Panamera struck the balance. Not too stiff like the AMG cars and not too soft/floaty like the S class.
The service aspect was a big factor. Cars are easy to buy. Living with them is the challenge and the dealer makes/breaks the experience. We'll never again own a car that can't be serviced locally (unless we win a lottery which ain't gonna happen). We think we'll be very happy living with the Panamera. If the service is anything like what we've experienced with the Cayman R - it'll be a home run.
Time will tell but so far very happy with the car - and with tinted windows it looks even better. It may not win a beauty contest - but it has many redeeming qualities (to us anyway). The looks have grown on me - especially with the redesigned rear hatch. I also believe the car looks better in some colors (I prefer dark).
