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YOUR RESEARCHAt what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

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Inspect any signs of accident damage/

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The car's undercarriage can be inspected for any signs of accident damage/repair, and a good feeling for the health of the various systems determined.

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For instance the PPI will have the car in the air -- after you have subjected the car to about an hour's run time on the road -- and can check for leak sign.

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I know a dealer of a marque brand that says he budgets a little money into every used car for repair issues after the car is sold even though he does not offer a warranty (not talking about third party extended--he offers those) on cars that are not certified.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

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I know you don't always get what you think you are getting, but that's why I buy used cars, because they don't have new car prices.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

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Until buying a Porsche I had never heard of a ppi and I have bought many used cars.

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For instance the PPI will have the car in the air -- after you have subjected the car to about an hour's run time on the road -- and can check for leak sign.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

Recommend any 996 get one

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However, I do my own maintenance, so really a different story if you pay somebody to do your maintenance, then I would recommend any 996 get one.

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For instance the PPI will have the car in the air -- after you have subjected the car to about an hour's run time on the road -- and can check for leak sign.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

Inspect any signs of accident damage/

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The car's undercarriage can be inspected for any signs of accident damage/repair, and a good feeling for the health of the various systems determined.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

Recommend any 996 get one

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However, I do my own maintenance, so really a different story if you pay somebody to do your maintenance, then I would recommend any 996 get one.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

Recommend ppi

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Unless it's a CPO with warranty I'd recommend a PPI.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

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I know a dealer of a marque brand that says he budgets a little money into every used car for repair issues after the car is sold even though he does not offer a warranty (not talking about third party extended--he offers those) on cars that are not certified.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

Run gear, etc

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Systems like the cooling system, brakes, tires, suspension, running gear, etc.

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Run time

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For instance the PPI will have the car in the air -- after you have subjected the car to about an hour's run time on the road -- and can check for leak sign.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

Run time and timestamps so you can improve

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The PPI should also be able to pull the DME overrev counters and engine run time and timestamps so you can improve on your knowledge of the car.

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I know a dealer of a marque brand that says he budgets a little money into every used car for repair issues after the car is sold even though he does not offer a warranty (not talking about third party extended--he offers those) on cars that are not certified.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

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I know you don't always get what you think you are getting, but that's why I buy used cars, because they don't have new car prices.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?

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Until buying a Porsche I had never heard of a ppi and I have bought many used cars.

At what age/mileage is PPI recommended?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

At some point a car is new enough to not require a detailed professional PPI. What is the cut off point?

POST 2Original post

Any previously owned car with an unknown service/maintenance service history, regardless of age or mileage, warrants a PPI IMO. Then again, a PPI is a matter of personal preference since some buyers do not have one done.

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I didn't do one on my car, asked questions, it was a 31K mile 99. I know you don't always get what you think you are getting, but that's why I buy used cars, because they don't have new car prices. However, I do my own maintenance, so really a different story if you pay somebody to do your maintenance, then I would recommend any 996 get one. Good luck!

POST 4Original post

I would say that if it is still under a factory bumper to bumper warranty that you don't need a PPI unless you are buying it sight unseen. Reason being that I want someone to look for evidence of previous accident repairs.

POST 5Original post

Unless it's a CPO with warranty I'd recommend a PPI. So, for any 996 I'd get a PPI.

POST 6Original post

Unless you're really certain of the cars provenance (or you don't care), I would get one. R

POST 7Original post

No used car buyer has ever said, "Gee, I wish I hadn't got that PPI". relinuca

POST 8Original post

Until buying a Porsche I had never heard of a ppi and I have bought many used cars.

POST 9Original post

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You have received some good replies. I can add that there is no real cut off point. Unless you feel confident the car is as it is being represented a PPI can be used to gain more confidence in the car's condition. I have bought all my cars with no PPI. Early on this was when cars were simpler and easier to check out. But my most recent used car purchase, my 2003 996 Turbo bought back in 2009, while I didn't have a PPI done I visited the car a number of times (when the dealer was closed) and crawled all over the car and looked underneath with a bright flashlight and felt I knew the car pretty darn good. It helped that the car was low miles -- 10K -- and obviously in pristine condition and it came with a 2 year, 100K mile CPO warranty. But for some owners a PPI is a good idea. For instance the PPI will have the car in the air -- after you have subjected the car to about an hour's run time on the road -- and can check for leak sign. The car's undercarriage can be inspected for any signs of accident damage/repair, and a good feeling for the health of the various systems determined. Systems like the cooling system, brakes, tires, suspension, running gear, etc. The PPI should also be able to pull the DME overrev counters and engine run time and timestamps so you can improve on your knowledge of the car. (For the Turbo I mentioned above, I got the CPO paperwork for the car before I bought it and was able to review the DME info.) And last but not least do not forget a car can have accident damage repair at any time. I've seen new cars, unsold cars, on the car lot (the back lot, distant from the more public areas) with accident damage awaiting to be repaired and put back on the sales lot. My point is one shouldn't assume even a new car is without accident damage. However, I would probably not get a PPI on a new car, but one should still give a new car a thorough going over.

POST 10Original post

PPI is well worth it in my opinion. I've done one while looking at a 996tt (ended up not purchasing the car) and will do one next time as well.

POST 11Original post

I would get a PPI under any circumstance other than if I was buying the car from a Porsche dealer certified or not. That would probably extend to Porsches bought from Mercedes, BMW dealer etc. I know a dealer of a marque brand that says he budgets a little money into every used car for repair issues after the car is sold even though he does not offer a warranty (not talking about third party extended--he offers those) on cars that are not certified. He just doesn't want to lose a $100,000 sale on a new car because he got yelped or google negative feedback.

POST 13Original post

It all depends on your individual situation. In shopping for 996TTs I had a PPI done on a car from Florida and ended up not buying it as a result. It had a coolant leak and a knock coming from the engine that the indie Porsche mechanic couldn't pinpoint. Add to that the seller really couldn't answer any questions about the car, so I didn't see it fit to fly to Florida to check it out in person. The car I actually did buy was listed by a well known Rennlist member who sells cars on the side. He was very transparent about the condition and all the needed service/repairs that he had done. After multiple conversations and after looking at over 120 high res photos, I flew out and picked up the car without an independant PPI. Drove almost 700 miles home and have put another 400 on her and she's been absolutely as advertised/perfect.

POST 14Original post

For me anything over $10K requires a PPI. It just makes good sense

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