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Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated

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Check some 2005 prices

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And perhaps test drive a used 997 and check some 2005 prices before you pay this much for a non-turbo 996.

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I talked to PO of this car and he said he did the 30K mi service, RMS was replaced under warranty at around 15K mi.

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And perhaps test drive a used 997 and check some 2005 prices before you pay this much for a non-turbo 996.

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And perhaps test drive a used 997 and check some 2005 prices before you pay this much for a non-turbo 996.

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And perhaps test drive a used 997 and check some 2005 prices before you pay this much for a non-turbo 996.

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I talked to PO of this car and he said he did the 30K mi service, RMS was replaced under warranty at around 15K mi.

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And perhaps test drive a used 997 and check some 2005 prices before you pay this much for a non-turbo 996.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hello there, I'm a BMW fanatic, currently own a 2001 BMW M5. First time in my life I decided to switch to Porsche. Looking at 2004 996 c4s with 36K mi, 2 owners in excellent condition. Here is the link http://rocky-mountain-eurosport.ebiz...d-6146769.html What do you think about this car? What is the fair price to buy this 911? This is a link to carfax report showing service records and history http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...AA29934S621032 Thank you so much for your help.

POST 2Original post

I would say 40k +/- would be a fair price after a proper ppi has been completed. Or maybe that price with a full warranty.

POST 3Original post

If it's absolutely pristine (everything is "smack my ***" perfect) $39K is the most you should pay. See this: http://www.excellence-mag.com/resour...ide/1041874889

POST 4Original post

I forgot to say...Welcome!! Is there any reason in particular you are getting a C4S? You might be able to get a well situated turbo for 44-45k.

POST 5Original post

That price is too high in my opinion. Try mid or high 30's You could find better deals that's for sure!

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7991903

Thank you so much. I'm specifically looking for low mileage c4s and my price range is $40K. I don't think I will find a turbo for that kind of money.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Last time we talked he said the bottom price is $39.5

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 7991974

Then he should take $38k cash no problem.

POST 9Original post

I would ask for history record on this.... Transmission removed to complete repair Axle bearing replaced Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated Transmission checked Front crankshaft oil seal replaced offer him 37K.... the car will not sell at his asking price.

POST 10Original post

I think his asking price is high, but I wouldn't be shocked to see it sell either. I see a lot of cars sold at dealers with prices that seem "too high" by any guide. Things are worth what somebody's willing to pay for them. If it's the exact car you were looking for with the colors/options, etc. than that ought to be worth a premium. Privately selling that car, I'd be surprised to see it bring more than 39.5k or so, something to consider.

POST 11Original post

You can definitely get a turbo or even a 997 for that price. I would not go for this car but if you're bent on a C4S then at least keep looking around. The blue interior is kind of cool though. By the way, post pics of the e39!

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

^^^^^^ http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...-pictures.html

POST 13Original post

Also, just as a reference I got my 40th anniversary with 42k miles for $33k. Same engine, just narrow body and RWD. You could do a lot with $11k in pocket change

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thanks for reply. why you would not go for this car?

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7992174

I love wide body, different suspension, brakes, etc.

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As a side note, if performance is what you're after, go for the 40th Anniversary. It has 28 more bhp than the C4S (316 > 345, due to X51 motor), M030 sports suspension, RWD, LSD, and is around 150kg lighter. Then again, the C4S's looks are hard to resist, and at the end of the day it's your choice! Good luck.

POST 17Original post

Go for a C4S for sure! But just look for a better priced car. Or see if he is willing to go lower.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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You don't think $39.5 is a good price for this c4s? I don't think he will go any lower on a price.

POST 19Original post

Look on Autotrader, there are a bunch listed at less than $40K. Good luck, C4Ss are sweet. (but, the devil on your shoulder might say pony up for a turbo, mine did )

POST 20Original post

Metropol Blue is a great color. I thought I would never consider a blue interior, but when I saw it I changed my mind. It looks almost black in all but direct light. Well-optioned car, but that is a FULL price, and I'd be concerned about wear items. Were the brakes replaced? How about the clutch/RMS? With that mileage, you could be coming up on some major maintenance. The selling shop can truthfully say that everything is within spec if the brakes are just above the wear limits, but you'll have a $2k bill within a year. And I wouldn't be too impressed by tires that are 75%, since that's likely to the bottom of the groove and if you ever drive in the rain you'll replace them long before that. So that's another $700-1500 to spend in a year. So IMO not overpriced if it's been gone through and is like new on wear items, but closer to $35-36 if it's just a "within spec" car that hasn't had attention.

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7993961

I talked to PO of this car and he said he did the 30K mi service, RMS was replaced under warranty at around 15K mi. Brakes are original and they look thick enough. Clutch is original as well. I think according to CarFax report this car was properly serviced.

POST 22Original post

This is a tough call. I agree with those who say this car is priced too high. ~$35-36k would be about right. However, this specific car is in very good condition with low(er) miles and a really nice set of options. Somebody carefully ordered this car. If you love Polar Silver (I do) and you like the blue interior $39k may not be too much. Just don't harbor any thoughts of this being a great deal or ever making money on the car. But if this is what you have been looking for... and you have the money to spend, go for it. Buying a Porsche is as much an emotional ideal as it is a rational consumer process. I think sometimes we here in Rennlist land get obsessed with the dollars and pennies a bit too much. That said, don't be a dope - get a thorough and independent PPI and consider negotiating for an aftermarket warranty. And perhaps test drive a used 997 and check some 2005 prices before you pay this much for a non-turbo 996. I know you like the wide body and all, but 997s are really nice.

POST 23Original post

IMO Polar Silver was the best 996 color period, bar none, end of discussion. I like my Metropol blue interior as well. It is quite different from the standard silver ext/black interior car which we see all too often. My Ideal (but not possible) color combo would be Polar Silver and the Seablue 997 interior color.

POST 24Original post

For that price - either go to a 997 or look at a slightly older Turbo's. I got a 996 TT w/X50 for $40k. It's worth a lot more than $1k over the C4S... I was looking for C4S's and ended up coming to the same conclusion (and thus changed my mind). Sorta the problem with 996's in that price range...it makes it easier to look at newer 997's or turbo's around the same model year. The 996 TT also has a slightly better engine design - which helps as well.

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I just bought this car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE IT. Why I did not switch to P-cars before?

POST 27 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I will post picturs tomorrow. The performance is unbelivible. It is totally different from BMW. I'm shocked, unfreakinbelievable.

POST 28Original post

Congratulations on your purchase. You need to do 2 things right away; 1.take some pics and share on the forum, 2.go out and drive your new Porsche.

POST 29Original post

Congratulations! It doesn't matter what you paid for the car if you love it now does it?

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POST 31Original post

nice interior a little better than mine looks great

POST 32Original post

Oh one more thing welcome to the Porsche 911 Family!

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