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bumper

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At least it was the bumper.

Road trip gone a muck
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Check with local business

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I would have checked with local business for any security camera.

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Repair yes

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Yes, that has been repaired previously.

Road trip gone a muck

Use on the bumper cover, i'd

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Personally, with all that bondo apparenlty already used on the bumper cover, I'd replace it (w/an OE or more interesting aftermarket bumper cover) rather than repair it.

Road trip gone a muck

Check with local business

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I would have checked with local business for any security camera.

Road trip gone a muck

Recommend by my indie

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They weren�t recommended by the insurance company, they recommended by my indie.

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Check with local business

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I would have checked with local business for any security camera.

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Recommend by my indie

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They weren�t recommended by the insurance company, they recommended by my indie.

Road trip gone a muck

Recommend by the insurance company, they

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They weren�t recommended by the insurance company, they recommended by my indie.

Road trip gone a muck

Recommend shop

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You don't become the insurance company recommended shop because you do good work.

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Repair shop

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If possible take it to a Porsche Dealership / Repair Shop.

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Repair yes

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Yes, that has been repaired previously.

Road trip gone a muck

Replace bumper cover, repaint and clear coat the entire thing

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replace the bumper cover, repaint and clear coat the entire thing.

Road trip gone a muck

Replace paint match not as critical

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Easiest to replace, paint match not as critical.

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Replace right radiator and respray the hood

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So I gave the green light to replace right radiator and respray the hood.

Road trip gone a muck

Use on the bumper cover, i'd

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Personally, with all that bondo apparenlty already used on the bumper cover, I'd replace it (w/an OE or more interesting aftermarket bumper cover) rather than repair it.

Road trip gone a muck
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bumper

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At least it was the bumper.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Stop for dinner at a restaurant and find this happened. No note, no nothing. Does it look like the bumper was bondo�d Before or is that normal?

POST 2Original post

Yes, that has been repaired previously. I would have checked with local business for any security camera. some people just suck.

POST 3Original post

At least it was the bumper. Easiest to replace, paint match not as critical.

POST 4Original post

That sucks. I've been hit three times while parked but I was there when it happened each time, so I didn't have to pay the deductible. I'm guessing you'll be stuck with that,

POST 5Original post

This is confirmation of my parking psychosis (which my wife absolutely loves) which causes me to park far, far, away from wherever it is I�m going, if there is a option, just to stay away from the other cars. Don�t let it ruin your trip, imminently fixable when you get home.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hopefully insurance picks up. I�m guessing at least 2k to do it right. Guard red supposedly is tough to blend so see if they can get it to match the fenders. It did before. Otherwise, 400 miles and the car just ate it up. Great run.

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Lol at 2k to do it right. Someone has been ripping you off. 500 is the high end, just make sure they don't do a melt.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Not sure who�s doing your work but the bumper alone in 2,100 from Porsche. Not sure they make a stock aftermarket. Yes I could fiberglass it in my garage but I think it deserves a little better than that. Insurance guy agreed to new bumper. Spray bumper and hood. Found a shop my indie recommended. Guy is supposedly Porsche certified. Whether that means anything at all in terms of quality, I don�t know. I think it would help if I go to sell though.

POST 9Original post

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I must be missing something on my phone, looks like just paint to me?

POST 10Original post

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When I do this I end up with some "reclaimed from the scrap pile" parked next to me! Someone being funny or just hateful. It's just a car and can be repaired.

POST 11Original post

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I have color tinted guardsmen red many times for an exact match. I would not blend, because what ever panel is blended, the whole panel must be clear coated. Find a shop that can do it right!

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I am telling you what the insurance guy said, the shop might be doing what you recommended. As mentioned, my Indie recommended the shop and he's (the indie) pretty well know dude in the Northeast region so I am good with that. I spoke to shop. Basically they need to blend the fenders and hood. So they take off the clear, blend and reclear. It might work out for the better because I had some flaws in my clear coat on one of the fender. Fingers crossed.

POST 13Original post

Personally, with all that bondo apparenlty already used on the bumper cover, I'd replace it (w/an OE or more interesting aftermarket bumper cover) rather than repair it.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It's getting a new bumper. Existing is going in the trash bin.

POST 15Original post

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DO NOT DO THIS. This is what is known as a melt. They all fail eventually. I see the picture on a computer now, and yeah, you need a bumper, but do not do a blend/melt.

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Curious now, what is your method?

POST 18Original post

It's hard to tell from the photo, but I'm not sure that is body filler in the photo. the white edges DO appear to be body filler, but if so it does not appear very thick. in any event, if your fender is not damaged, I'm not sure I'd want it blended either. replace the bumper cover, repaint and clear coat the entire thing. it's possible the red may not exactly match the red fender, which may be the reason they suggested blending. But I'm not a body/paint expert. Only a garage painter.

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Funny how things work out. I had previously made an appointment with the ding guy to come by and do some work. With the passenger door there was a slight crease due to what appears to be the door flinging to far. It was almost unnoticeable, I had missed it when I bought the car but happened to notice due to the sun light one day. Again, really nothing. Well I had him give it a try. He was able to get the majority of it out but in the process the paint wrinkled in like an area the size of a dime. I guess over all I am still ahead since when the bumper was repainted previously, the clear on the right fender sort of blistered creating spots these small rough spots in the clear. I am hoping with the work getting done and the clear being removed, this at least fixes this problem. Fingers crossed. Just some history on the car, the guy who owned before was I believe 81 and the kids took it from him. I think he was a drafter because of volume of stone chips in the front. Second, I think he must have tapped things due to poor vision. I think the rear flares gave him a bit of a problem. Right side he gouged the out edge of the wheel well to nick the plastic a bit. On the left side where the vents are on the bumper, it looked like the red had been pulled off. It did help me with the price negotiating. Anyhow, when I went to pick up, the son in law had clean the car one last time and realized there was just some goop on the vents. It buffed right out. He wasn't to happy. Car is 18 years old now with 73k on it, she's not an intended show car so oh well.

POST 21Original post

****ty op.. hope u find the ahole! I try to park far away but often i find some dbag park right beside anyways.

POST 22 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Went to shop. They will be basically cleaning up the whole front end. I mentioned to look at the radiator. He said it looked hit. They will send off to dealership to fix. Hopefully insurance signs off on this. They should since it was fine before. Regarding the shop, they had tons of awards and certifications from Porsche. All the cars in the lot were Porsche and Audi. I think I picked a good shop.

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Okay, this is where I am at now. New Bumper and radiator. The insurance will pick all that up and blend into fenders and hood. Shop called and said while they have the bumper off, the right radiator is a bit corroded though not leaking. Also, the chips in the hood they will not be fixing all of them. So I gave the green light to replace right radiator and respray the hood. Said it should look like a new car in the front when done. Considering the paint in the front was really the only part that bothered me about the car, it's not so bad. I'd rather not get the accident label but overall if I keep it long term, I think it works out okay. I must say, the insurance guys were super responsive. Happened Saturday, had in shop Thursday. I was quite impressed.

POST 24Original post

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If possible take it to a Porsche Dealership / Repair Shop. You can make the insurance pay up, force the issue. This is the result from a Porsche dealer who did paint correct on my 2003 Carrera Aero, Orient Red Metallic You Tube

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It's not a dealership but the owners are both Porsche certified and had recent awards from Porsche so I think I am in good hands. I think it's pretty fair, they are getting me back to where I was before the accident. Maybe a blessing in disguise. Who knows how much longer the radiator had. That is a pretty expensive job to pay someone to do and I don't have to get my hands dirty. As mention, pretty happy with the insurance guys.

POST 26Original post

It's hard to tell from your photo but your bumper cover may not have been previously repaired. I have seen primed bumper covers (OEM?) before and they were grey similar to the color of your panel under the paint. Personally, I would not do any blending if the hood and fenders were untouched. I'd simply have them match the new bumper cover's color the best they can and leave the rest of the car untouched.

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I cannot imagine that the Porsche certified process allows for partial clearcoat blending, which is a process no paint manufacturer will warranty and always begins to fail within 5 years. You don't become the insurance company recommended shop because you do good work. You get that by working for less.

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

They weren�t recommended by the insurance company, they recommended by my indie. It was all Porsche and Audi cars in the parking lot. I think they are okay.

POST 29 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

They weren�t recommended by the insurance company, they recommended by my indie. It was all Porsche and Audi cars in the parking lot. I think they are okay.

POST 30Original post

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It is known as a blend as well. This procedure is done to blend in clear typically in a quarter panel repair that has no dividing paint stop lines to the roof. While you are correct that a clear blend or melt as you call or will fail, the car at hand will need a good match for panel painting the bumper or a blend into th hood and both fenders with partial color and full clear for all panels. No clear blend would be used if done correctly. Red unless sun faded, shouldn�t be as hard to panel match as metallic silver or colors like that. I would take my chances on a panel painted bumper rather tan blend all the front end to match bumper paint. Either way it isn�t going to be anywhere near $500, the pint of red base in a quality paint will run well over $125 just for the paint.

POST 31 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Got car back today. New bumper, spoiler, left condenser and radiator paid by insurance. I paid extra and got the hood repainted and the imperfections in the right fender fixed. Also got a new right radiator. It was pretty gross. Anyhow, super happy with the outcome. The process was easy and the shop owner couldn�t have been nicer. I�m mesmerized by the hood.

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