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YOUR RESEARCHWill GT3 Wheels fit my 996 C2?
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I replaced those for new all clear lights immediately..
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Run 18x9.0"/18x11.0" track wheels without rolling fenders
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I run 18x9.0"/18x11.0" track wheels without rolling fenders.
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in my case, my car is an early 996, i run 295 MPSCs, run -2.5 degrees of camber and is lowered...
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in my case, my car is an early 996, i run 295 MPSCs, run -2.5 degrees of camber and is lowered...
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So yesterday I got a chance to run the car pretty hard on a low traffic stretch of roadway I use to shake down my 944Cup racecar.
Run 255/35 in front and 315/30 rear without rubbing
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I did some measuring with my race wheels (18x9.0" 6-3/4" backspace/18x11.0" 9" backspace, currently mounted with GT3 sized PSC's) and there is enough room to run a 255/35 in front and 315/30 rear without rubbing on these wheels.
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basically if you are running 295s (which ARE oem rear size for the gt3 wheel), have an early 996, and are not running much camber than yes you will need to roll the fenders.
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I have a line on some stock GT3 wheels for a fair price. I hope they can fit right on my C2 but the one inch wider (11" instead of 10") has me worried they will rub. My car has PSS9s on it and is about 1 1/2 inch lower than stock. Anyone know how well they fit?
yes they will fit, you may have to roll the fenders, I actually have 997 wheels on my car and the rears are the same offsets as GT3 wheels, except 19's and they fit fine, room to spare.
Lucent Motors in LA...Arling and Tom roll many a fender...Arling who has a CGT and did have a GT3 told me that the GT3's are pre rolled. Tom was an ex porsche head mechanic...It will depend on his camber and what size tires he runs...If he does not have enough negative camber or uses wide tires, like say a 305 or 315, then yes he will have to roll the rears GUARANTEED, if he has enough negative camber and uses 295's he should be fine.
Well, anything larger than the 295 is NOT factory fittment so you are on your own then and thus may have to roll the fenders. But Porsche does NOT roll the GT3 fenders.
If you just put on the factory GT3 wheels with the factory tire size you will be perfectly fine.
I run 315/25/19 and did not roll the fenders and never rubbed even on auto-x or DE. Keep in mind that I am running stock alignment and I have only a ROW M030 suspension. If you have the car really low you might need to roll the fenders. Any way I doubt you will have to roll the fenders using stock GT3 tires and wheels.
I am curious what that price is? A set finally was put up on e-bay and sold for $2551 without tires. If they were for something like $1000-1500, I would snag them up in a hurry.
FYI, all 996's have fenders that are pre-rolled to some extent from the factory. They aren't rolled flat up to the outer metal, but are noticeable bent out of the way on top of all the wheel arches. This is done in the original metal stampings for the body. You are welcome to go outside an rub your fingers around your wheel wells if you don't believe it. There is very little clearancing that can be done by rolling them further, unless you are looking at bending the fenders out.
I did some measuring with my race wheels (18x9.0" 6-3/4" backspace/18x11.0" 9" backspace, currently mounted with GT3 sized PSC's) and there is enough room to run a 255/35 in front and 315/30 rear without rubbing on these wheels. Keep in mind that on an 11.0" wheels, the tire section width only increases .5" from going to a 315 from a 295. This means only an additional .25" per side in/out. I believe this may be an issue on GT3 wheels, but my wheels were made with more offset in the rear (about 10mm) than a GT3 has. In the rear end there is a lot more room to fit more tire going in toward the suspension than out toward the fender.
02 Carrera.....sounds like we are on different pages but what you are describing is NOT rolling the fenders like what the original poster asked or what others talk about here on Rennlist. Pre-rolled at the factory is shaping a panel during "creation" of the car to FACTORY specs of what the dimensions of the fender is to be and is done by the factory. Rolling as we are talking about is CHANGING the factory template to accomodate a wheel that doesn't fit without rubbing in your virgin fender.
As I have said...and others have as well....you do NOT need to roll the fenders for additional clearance of a factory narrow body 996 to fit GT3 wheels since they are the wheels on the GT3 which is a narrow body just like your C2.
c'mon dell you are just being nit picky... rolled/formed = symantics. rolled before or after the fact the point is clearance has been made so the tire won't rub. getting that out of the way, the gt3 fenders are rolled
well i have kinesis wheels in a gt3 fitment and my fenders did need rolling. the '99s were not rolled at the factory and the fender lip basically 90 degrees to the main fender. this may be the case up to '02 cars. '02+ cars are defintely rolled/formed and so is the gt3.
basically if you are running 295s (which ARE oem rear size for the gt3 wheel), have an early 996, and are not running much camber than yes you will need to roll the fenders.
in my case, my car is an early 996, i run 295 MPSCs, run -2.5 degrees of camber and is lowered... a lot. i DEFINTELY needed the extra clearance. i rolled the fender so that it's basically vertical
No need to roll fenders....I have MkI and factory MkII GT3 wheels with an additional 5mm spacer in the rear. And the car is substantially lowered. Here is a picture I just posted yesterday on another thread.
PMK....everytime I see your car its an absolute beauty...White Aero w GT3 wheels....love it. The one thing I would do to get it to be perfect (and probably the best looking 996) is de-amber the headlights....Its a pretty easy DIY.
Hey lowpue. How goes it? And how is that engine build going? I am dieing to know..... Not sure why there is an orange tint to the headlights in that picture. That picture was shot for a photo shoot.. But, there is no "orange" in the headlights. I replaced those for new all clear lights immediately.. Here is a different angle picture.. Also, let me know when you are in LV. And by the way, POC will be out here for a big track day at the lvsw. End of March, 25, 26, 27.. Come out and visit.
Man, I can't tell you how much I love your car...is it really as pristine as it looks in the pictures? I am out in vegas every December for a meeting so the timing to come out doesn't work but would be fun. Also, as far as my 996 build is going, the car is almost done. Dundon is doing all of the Maps for the ECU to get it to its final tune so I can't wait. Finally, I am talking about the amber turn signal lens that is behind the clear headlight cover. The picture below shows the amber I extracted out of my son's boxster lights.
Got it. Now I see what you mean on the lights. Have to look into that. Yes, I do love the looks of the MK1 aero, especially from the back. There are some more things that I would like to do to the car but I done so much already and I do not drive it as much as I should. The next thing is the IMS solution, but then again I would like my friend at Vision to build me a nice new motor. LoL.. We will see.
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, sorry to have hijacked your posting..
Just had mine refinshed! Should look good in place of the HREs on it.
Bought these two weeks ago from a guy, along with a NIB front rotor and OEM battery tender for $950. Had them refinished in Dark metallic gunmetal. Can't wait to fit them to the car with new rubber.
First of all, I hope this does not turn into a 19" v 18" wheel thread, I just wanted to respond to the question of "Will a GT3 wheel fit my C2". I got a set of Kinesis F110 in what I was told was a GT3 fitment. Front 8.5 x 19 w offset 50, rear 11 x 19 w 64 offset. Running 235/35/19 front and 295/30/19 rear with no rubbing at all. Car is a 2004 (MK2) and fenders have factory roll (not 180 deg). Also on OEM suspension so can not comment if there would be rub if lowered.
So yesterday I got a chance to run the car pretty hard on a low traffic stretch of roadway I use to shake down my 944Cup racecar. I managed to get some “rub” on the rears on the GT3 tires on my Mk1. I probably drive a wee bit harder than some, and these weren’t billiard table smooth corners. My car has the factory MO30 suspension installed.
I’ll be rolling the rear fenders!
Hmmm....I have yet to see any rubbing and I use 5mm spacers....Car is lowered and used almost exclusively on the track....what is your tire size....I go with 295/30
This could be the bi-product of 19 year old M030 suspension. Who knows. It only happened twice on two small sections of roadway, and a second test yesterday did not return the same results.
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Yes. They both fit a narrow body. The 10mm offset difference is basically the 0.5" width difference and both should clear.
Now tire size, alignment, suspension type all play a part in fitment. What are your specs for those items? Assuming you are not trying to stuff too much tire on those wheels they should fit perfectly fine.
So the 8" wheel sits more in than the 8.5". With the 10mm + (12.7mm divided by 2) = 16.35 deeper inset. So I think to the face of the wheel be equivalent to stock GT3 wheel you would need a 16 mm spacer. This is quite a bit in my book.. However, I think you 8" is an ofset that is close to the base C2 dimensions. Certainly check my work above. Also, if you are shopping for GT3 wheels....be sure that the rears are GT3 wheels and not GT2 Wheels ...the latter wont fit. THe rear GT3 wheels should have a 63mm offset to fit.
thx... since stock C2 front wheels are 8� and 52 offset, was thinking the 8� with 50 offset would not be noticeable... but maybe the 8.5� 40 offset would be better? Either will fit...