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YOUR RESEARCHP2096 CEL - How Concerning
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Run ~230 miles and got another
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Cleared it and then ran ~230 miles and got another.
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(I finally picked up a pair of used converters and had the tech swap them for the original ones on the car.)
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If the codes come back too soon, it is probably best to just replace the sensor or sensors pointed to by the error code.
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Or you could just replace the sensors with new ones.
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Unless a sensor -- in this case -- has failed very early in its service life I like to replace both sensors together.
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Just got the P2096 CEL (Signal delay time for oxygen sensor ageing above limit) on my '02 C4 Cab - car has 66,000, car ruining great and no power loss. Cleared it and then ran ~230 miles and got another. Question is how long, generally, do I have before the O2 Sensor and/or catalytic converter must be changed? I know it's hard to say but any opinion is welcomed.
it's not uncommon to have O2 sensors going in 60k+ miles. The Bosch ones are $80 each so not too expensive.
Your code is about the sensor and not the cat (luckily) though
Like everything else the sensor or converter can fail at any time.
For a DIY'er generally the recommendation is to read the error code or codes, note them, erase them then see if they come back.
If there is any engine misbehavior with the appearance of the error code that's different and should be looked into by a professional mechanic.
If the codes come back too soon, it is probably best to just replace the sensor or sensors pointed to by the error code.
What is too soon? Well, one guideline I use is when the error comes back if I can remember when it last appeared that's too soon. I've been dealing with a P0430 now for a long time but it comes up so seldom, infrequently, that even after several years that I have not -- until just recently -- done anything about it other than clear it and continue to drive. (I finally picked up a pair of used converters and had the tech swap them for the original ones on the car.)
There is I seem to recall a TSB around that addresses spurious P2096 errors for cars around your car's age/MY. If you are a member of renntech.org you can search the TSB section and download the document and see if it applies.
Trouble could be that the DME upgrade (IIRC if that is what's called for) may no longer be available for no cost. IOWs, you would have to pay to have the DME firmware updated to address the tendency of the DME to flag a spurious O2 sensor error.
Or you could just replace the sensors with new ones. Unless a sensor -- in this case -- has failed very early in its service life I like to replace both sensors together. My concern is in just replacing one sensor the other one with over 60K miles has degraded some and fueling of its bank will be compromised.
You want to maximize converter life as much as you can. They are expensive to replace. Factory units run upwards of $1000 or more. (The ones for my Boxster were approx. $1200/each. I found a pair at a salvage yard for $475/each. Still pricey but the original ones have over 280K miles on them, and one is rattling because the converter "brick" is loose in the pipe/housing.)
