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Sometimes I have found it laughable when an oil sample was pulled from an engine that had failed, and they said "This sample looks great, we recommend re- sampling in the future.
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Suggestion · Original poster
Before my next oil change I would like to find a lab to do the tests.
Set each other apart and how they impact these engines
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At first, I thought the class was just going to be about understanding an UOA and how to decipher the information, but what a bonus to learn about the oil industry and how these different brands set each other apart and how they impact these engines.
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So far in the last 6 months two oils changed, and were picked up by one oil company testing competing products.
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Blackstone only uses an approximation of the flash point result to estimate fuel dilution, as confirmed by them when I inquired by email to find out their specific method.
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Sometimes I have found it laughable when an oil sample was pulled from an engine that had failed, and they said "This sample looks great, we recommend re- sampling in the future.
Set each other apart and how they impact these engines
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At first, I thought the class was just going to be about understanding an UOA and how to decipher the information, but what a bonus to learn about the oil industry and how these different brands set each other apart and how they impact these engines.
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Blackstone only uses an approximation of the flash point result to estimate fuel dilution, as confirmed by them when I inquired by email to find out their specific method.
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As it seems to be a little bit more complicated to send samples accros the border from Canada to US I was wondering if anyone here have used Oil Analyzers?
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Hi guys
Before my next oil change I would like to find a lab to do the tests.
As it seems to be a little bit more complicated to send samples accros the border from Canada to US I was wondering if anyone here have used Oil Analyzers?
Their kit and analysis are correctly priced and the result include TBN. Tan is not available.
https://www.oildepot.ca/products/by-pass-oil-filters/oil-analysis-kits/
They sent me a complete document but I took two screen shot of the detailed analysis sheet
Thanks
Hugo
Exactly, I just visited this "oildepot.ca" websight and you have to contact them for pricing. Ugh! I hate that kind of thing. Just post the cost for the service people! We're not talking top secret nuclear launch codes here!
Anyway, I like the whole idea behind SpeedDiagnositx. This company is giving Porsche specific UOA. I would imagine this means they have lab assistants are trained with the knowledge of the specifics issues that plague the different Porsche engines.
https://www.speediagnostix.com
Their prices are posted on the site and it looks like a standard 6-day turnaround UOA is about $80 from Canada.
Blackstone - they will send you a free kit and they make notes from your previous analysis.
$28 for the standard test. No upselling to me yet.
https://www.blackstone-labs.com/?ses...clq55%29%29%2F
Blackstone is free for the container being mailed to you with the return envelope, you only pay once you fill it with oil and send it to them for analysis.
There is nothing free.
It's like getting the coupons in the mail that says, "Free hamburger!" And then the fine print below it says... "with the purchase of a drink and fries at regular price". You get to the burger joint and realize that a normal hamburger combo costs less than the coupon deal. Follow me?
Or .... those fancy applications that say... "Free download" The download is free but the app is not.
I hear you, but you are incorrect in this specific case. They will send you a free container, and you can do whatever you want with it, no charge. I have a blackstone container sitting on my shelf fillled with used oil that I haven�t sent in, zero charge. If I never send it in, it is completely free to me.
Hi
Here are the options from oildepot.ca
KIT401 UPS Prepaid- $62.00 CDN
KIT402 Non postage- $38.70 CDN
Speedianostix would be my first choice but at 80$us its basicly the price of my oil change... I just find it hard to justify but they have the best reports I have seen so far.Again Blackstone seems also correct but shipping oil sample across border doesnt seems to be an "easy" task. CanadaPost wont accept it if I declare there is oil it. If I dont declare it I guess the US border wont let the package go throught...
Canada Post will accept it, as a sample. I have sent lots of them. I've been using Blackstone for a couple of years now. My only complaint is the slow turnaround...not necessarily from Blackstone, I expect it is more from shipping. Usually something like 2-3 week turn around. I expect 2 of those weeks are getting to the border, 4 days getting across the border, a day from border to Blackstone and a day for testing and sending results.
Really? I gave them a call yesterday and they told me they wouldnt even accept a piece of cotton soaked in oil.... Just for info did you declare what it was or did you just declare it as a sample?
Honestly Blackstone was my second choice because lot of people seems to use their services on this forum.
I just want to make sure I will be able to use the service a couple time by the same lab to build an history for my engine.
When I send in an oil sample for analysis, I am looking for analysis on "my engine" for wear particles in PPM, iron, aluminum, copper ect, and also for coolant or fuel contamination. Since I never run the oil as nearly as long as it's designed for, I'm never really trying to analyze the oil its self.
I think the oil companies should analyze each others oil and if they really have a significant finding, should report it, sort of an "oil wars" type of thing in a "free market". But that won't happen, either they are all in agreement not to test each others products and report the truth, or there is just not that much significance to the findings. Personally I think the oil companies hold back the "bad" information they find in testing.
We have a Used Oil Analysis class coming up on April 18 with Lake Speed Jr., Charles Navarro, and I.
There's more to UOA than looking at wear metals. I tend to look at the other items more than wear metals. Fuel dilution, oxidation, and retention of the anti- wear package are big items that people tend to overlook. This sometimes even includes the people giving commentary when offering UOA results. In most cases you shouldn't even look at their commentary. Sometimes I have found it laughable when an oil sample was pulled from an engine that had failed, and they said "This sample looks great, we recommend re- sampling in the future. You can also extend your service intervals if you'd like"
It does happen. So far in the last 6 months two oils changed, and were picked up by one oil company testing competing products. Both of these had stayed the same for a long time, so it was easy to see the red flag when it popped up.
Join us this Thursday to learn all about UOA.
I just received my first report back from SpeeDiagnostix. Timely service and a very comprehensive report. I'd recommend them, as I plan to use them going forward. You just don't get a list of values - you get explanations for them and the various categories are color coded - green, yellow, red.
Somewhere along the late summer or early fall of 2017, Driven revised their DT-40 formulation to decrease calcium and increase boron and moly to provide better overall protection, especially for direct injection engines. The new DI series of Driven oils takes this custom formulation a bit further to benefit direct injected engines. You may remember the caps on the DT-40 quarts were a larger size about 1.5" across, then in the fall 2017 time frame, the caps are much smaller in diameter. This change in packaging in my case happened to exactly coincide with a back-to-back UOA result that showed the different additive package. I sent Lake Speed an email and got the reply that is almost word-for-word what is in the first sentence of this paragraph.
I'm trying to switch over to DI-40 but like everyone else trying to do the same, I am waiting on backordered supply to be shipped. I have switched my 6.2L L86 engine in my 1500 Sierra over to DI-30. I also switched my UOA to Speediagnostix from Blackstone in the middle of summer 2018. Blackstone only uses an approximation of the flash point result to estimate fuel dilution, as confirmed by them when I inquired by email to find out their specific method. That alone was enough to persuade me to switch to Speediagnostix.
Jake, I really enjoyed the class. I think I enjoyed it more than the other online enthusiast class. I'm not sure if rebuilding an engine will be on my bucket list, but understanding how to better care for my investment makes total sense to me. I never understood what goes into the various additive packages. At first, I thought the class was just going to be about understanding an UOA and how to decipher the information, but what a bonus to learn about the oil industry and how these different brands set each other apart and how they impact these engines. The problems with carbon buildup on DFI engines, low speed per-ignitiion, etc. etc. Looking forward to future classes through The Knowledge Gruppe. Thank you!!!
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