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YOUR RESEARCHRemovable Harness Bar for Cab
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I will add though that VIR has changed thier policy on the 996 CAB.
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In fact, I run with the GT3 race buckets using the 3 point belts.
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In fact, I run with the GT3 race buckets using the 3 point belts.
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Checking with the sanctioing body (i.e., PCA, etc) that you plan to run with will save tons of headaches.
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I believe most GT3 seats are solid backs (ie, they do not fold forward to allow access to rear seats), so unless you change the seats out too, it will be tough to use the back seat.
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I believe most GT3 seats are solid backs (ie, they do not fold forward to allow access to rear seats), so unless you change the seats out too, it will be tough to use the back seat.
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If you only run solo, you can just put a seat on the driver's side and leave regular passenger seat in or you can get the seats that do fold forward (should be ok for DE at most clubs).
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Is there a harness bar that can be easily removed or the cross brace easily removed? Having a blast with the cab in DE but it is still primarily a family car and I need access to the back seats between events. I definitely do not want a roll bar. Thanks!
Just to clarify I mean that the bar would be very easily removable. I know anything that goes in can come out but I mean in seconds like with pins or something quick.
I asked the same question to someone who uses his Cabrio a lot for DEs and the simplest one seems to be the bolt-in DAS rollbar. (
https://www.dassport.com/store/categ...olet-Roll-Bars
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It does require two holes to be drilled and also uses the seatbelt mounting bolts.
But even so the removal/installation process takes minutes not seconds. So I don't think there's anything quick that also passes safety inspections.
I'm thinking of going this route myself. So if you find anything better let me know!
I guess the big question is what you are using it with? Do you have race buckets and harnesses? If so, since you have to remove the seats (I assume you do between events) then you can remove the bolt in bar as well.
If you don't want a bolt in roll bar then another option is the BK harness bar. I ran it in my CAB. See attached pic. It bolts in 4 places (the lower seat belt anchors for the front and rear).
I don't have anything yet and wasn't looking for a full roll bar--just a harness bar. If I went all the way it would be Euro GT3 Seats, a harness and a bar. I would like to remove the harness bar and harness between events and use the seats as daily drivers. Thoughts?
You MUST have race buckets with the appropriate routing holes for the harness (shoulder, lap, and sub) or you will NOT be allowed to participate in a DE. Not only is this the new rules PCA put in place recently, it is VERY dangerous.
Dell, there's no point in aquiring the seats and harness if I don't first have the bar right? What good is the harness with nothing to anchor it to? Am I missing something or not understanding?
You can use stock belts in certain classes. Since the OP was asking about harnesses, what Dell is saying is you can't use a harness unless your seat has manufactured holes for the shoulder harnesses.
I believe most GT3 seats are solid backs (ie, they do not fold forward to allow access to rear seats), so unless you change the seats out too, it will be tough to use the back seat.
If you only run solo, you can just put a seat on the driver's side and leave regular passenger seat in or you can get the seats that do fold forward (should be ok for DE at most clubs).
Before I invest in the proper seats and harness I was checking to see if there is a bar I could pop in and out. My kids like to climb over the door "Dukes of Hazard" style so I'm not overly converned racing seats won't lean forward. Heck, the way they're growing the back seats may be useless soon anyway.
I went down this route with my Cab. Long story short, think about the level of commitment to track driving that you want to make. Where will it take you in a year or so. For me it was keep the Cab. as a DD, and get a coupe for the track.
Just trying to push you further down that slippery slope...
But back to your topic, safety first...always.
Absolutely not saying that. In fact, I run with the GT3 race buckets using the 3 point belts.
The point I am making is that if you buy the bar, then it is for running with harnesses. To run with harnesses you MUST have the proper seat for them. If I were you, I would get the seats FIRST and then as the budget allows, add the harness bar and harnesses.
Bingo.
Before buying a harness bar, something else you might want to consider are the rules for the tracks you might want to DE at. A few tracks require convertibles to have a fixed roll bars (e.g. VIR, Limerock, NJMP). The stock self deploying ones do not pass tech. If you think you will drive these tracks it might be better to just get a roll bar w/ harness mounting points from the start. Or you can do what I did and sell the cabrio and buy a coupe
Something like the Tequipment roll bar is bolted into the rear using 4 bolts in pre-exisiting seatbelt mounting points. It doesn't come out in seconds, but it can be removed in 30 mins or less. I think similar products by BK or Das mount in a similar fashion. I don't think any drilling is required.
Excellent advice. I will add though that VIR has changed thier policy on the 996 CAB. They no longer require a fixed rollbar as long as you run with the hardtop in place.
Checking with the sanctioing body (i.e., PCA, etc) that you plan to run with will save tons of headaches.