Rear Badge: Yes or No?

I have been debating whether or not I should put the rear badge on my car (I have a factory badge on my desk ready to go - Black). I do like a clean look and so it really doesn't look bad without it. My other car I removed all badges/emblems when I had the body work done. So I am asking you the Rennlist community what do you think? I took a picture as it is now. Was going to take a picture of it with the badge temporarily in place however it will have either a white piece of paper around it (what the badge is attached to), or I would have to take off the white piece of paper which I do not want to do unless I am attaching it permanently. If I do go with the badge, I will then have to find out where exactly it is suppose to be placed.

I like the badge....

i like the badge too, I think a silver carrera would look awesome with your paint. oh and to put it on, it may be worth it to have the dealer do it, then if they screw it up, you can have them fix it.

Badge it.

No badge, let em guess.

badge - black

No Badge. All 3 of my car are void of badges.

Looks like a kit car without a badge - put it on and I actually like the silver Carrera on the yellow cars

OK...so I have heard a Silver Badge a couple of times now, would that not clash with the Black Bumperettes? I know I am now opeing up to being told 'get them painted', but right now I will leave them Black. But does that change the decision on the colour of Badge if I go with a badge? If I leave the Black Bumperettes in place doesn't a Black Badge make sense to go with? If I get the Bumperettes painted yellow, does that mean I can use either Black or Silver as the Badge colour?

I say paint them, of course-- but I think it will still look great with a sliver badge and the bumperettes in black.

i like it... i say yes........ throw on the 911

Hmmm, Porsche_Smile you bring-up a point. The badge I have says "Carrera", should I have a badge that says "911"?

I have seen 911 on yellow ... great..

one vote for no badge. If you need one go with the "911" version.

Yellow car - badge it in black, definitely.

+1

I disagree. I think a car without a badge looks like "So I have the cheapest model but I want you to think that I don't".

What a load of crap. I have the cabriolet, which is generally the most expensive version of the C2 or C4 (GT versions not withstanding, but if they made a GT3 cab, I'm sure it'd be shockingly more also). However, I just like the clean look by far. So, I removed my emblem long ago using the patented floss and Wurth's citrus cleaner technique. It's so sleek now, I can't tell you how much I prefer it to that cheap black crap of a badge that they stick there. I might consider a painted version, but devoid of emblem is coolest. Plus, you never again have to suffer from little towel threads getting caught in and around and under the letters. If you want badgers, go to Wisconsin. Else, keep it clean.

I'd vote for the black badge. If you wanted to go more subtle, maybe paint the badge to match the body color?

Badges...we don't need no stinkin' badges... Although on lighter colors, a dark badge looks pretty sweet.

Put the badge on for the world to see. Looks to plain to me without it. Just my .02. Todd

+ 1. Particularly this bright yellow car with the big wing. To me, the absence of a badge makes it seem as though the owner is trying to pass it off as something it's not. I recommend a Carrera badge in the color you like best. CP

Thanks to all of you that have responded so far. As of now I am seeing the following: Badge = Yes Colour = Black Wording = tied between Carrera and 911 So lets keep them coming so that I have a good understanding of what everyone thinks, although I know it always comes down to personal preference. But again I am on the fence post for me so what I see here may make up my mind.

Here's mine: I think the black badge looks cheap and I'd definitely go with Carrera because no crap it's a 911. I like the Carrera lettering as well as it's longer so the back end looks more filled out. I'd get it in silver just like the Carrera sign on the big boy Carrera GT. I like how the silver blends better and doesn't pop out so much like the black. Plus the finish on the silver one is this luster, metallic style which looks quality. We're all seriously splitting hairs here, but hey... you asked, you git.

That is true. But I don't see that as a terrible thing The "let them guess" opinion is a valid one. Maybe it is the opposite: if I see a no badge GT3 look, I will instantly think that the car isn't in fact a GT3, because a true GT3 owner don't get rid of the badge. So, My vote is: no badge

'Carrera' badge in silver, with the yellow painted bumperettes.

+1

Ok we are now leaning more towards the Silver Carrera badge but with Yellow Bumperettes. Having a Silver Badge with Black Bumperettes in my mind would not look right. So far know one with a Yellow car has shown me there's, that would definately help. Other points that I have read: - black badge looks cheap (definately do not want that appearance) - the clean look lets them guess what car it is (hopefully they know it is a Porsche at least, but I guess a bit more information would help them) - definately do not want to put something on that it is not (i.e. it is not a GT3 so no GT3 badge - hate that) - with no badge you avoid catching the towel on the edges of the badge leaving behind strands or even worse, pulling the badge away from the body (hate that when it happens) Keep it coming...much appreciated, the git

got someones car

In black...you need the contrast! C4 up top c2 down low

Depends. Rear badges on Porsches are like "aim here" tatoos on hot chicks. If she is just used for flings? oh yeah. If she is your main squeeze . . . um . . . no way. Mine is au naturel

Hmmm, that does look good with silver but with it saying Carrera in my mind would be better. I am again on the fence post about the bumperettes in regards to them being black or yellow. More stuff for you to chew over.

It's so clear: "Carrera" in silver. Paint the bumperettes. Yes, I know mine are black. I park in the city. Hurry! Do it now before these people make you change my mind.

Getting closer

If it were indeed such a load of crap, howcome one sees so few GT3 drivers remove the badge then?

How does that prove your point? It is a question of esthetics. If someone puts on the "wrong" badge, then they look like they are driving the cheap model (i.e. turbo on a C4s). People who do not have one at all look like they don't care about what anyone else thinks, which is why I don't have one either. I own a Targa, what would debadging make people think I want them to think I own?

Dude, it reminds me of people who wear clothing with the manufacturers' name plastered all over the place: Gucci, Versace, D&G, etc. So played. We get it. You're cool. I can tell what model car I'm looking at by the fender rolls, the brake calipers, the front air intake, etc. The badge is just a bit more marketing is all. Anyway, if you're keen to have a badge, painted yellow Carrera, black bumperettes looks next best.

x2 I refuse to wear any clothing that has a logo on it. Frankly, I would rather that people think I spent less on my car than I did. In reality, I wished that most people didn't know I even owned a Porsche, let alone multiple Porsches -- porschi -- and track/race them.

here's what u do speed demon... ask each person who is providing their opinion to post a pic of their 911... if their 911 looks good, it's obvious that you can follow their style a bit more since they're a bit more credible... some of the advice here, imo, is aesthetically whack. speed you know what my ride looks like and i've already stated my preference here. no offense, but i'd say a good 98% of the 911s on this forum that i've seen are... really wtf are you doing style just like the 98% of the way people dress out there in the greater US public. really, i'm not trying to sound like an ****, just being honest

Hi Steven, just my 2 cents worth. I really like the 911 badge because it's different. I believe it came stock on the millenium edition. Your car looks great regardless of which you do.

I here you buddy. Yes I would like to see the different possibilities and see what people have other than just there commnet/opinion. So lets see them everyone? Help me out here.

Like this:

Actually, the emblems were mounted in the higher position on the 3.4L cars, and the lower position on the 3.6L cars. The 3.4 C4's came with silver emblems, C2's with black. I don't know if this applies to 3.6's as well. You may note that in my pic posted above, I put a silver badge in the lower position on my 3.4L car, even though it is a C2. I like the look better this way.

Thanks Kevin, much appreciated

Who cares what anyone else thinks? Life is short, so do what makes you happy. I know I did. So, do I look like I am a poseur because I prefer badgeless?

TD your car looks great and is fine without the badge. Personally with or without a badge, the 996 is a beautiful looking car. I am just trying to see if having a badge or not having a badge is a or not. And yes at the end of the day I will make the decision.

I vote no badge. Instead, fill it up with track maps of the tracks you visit. You've seen the picture of mine. And do add the wickerbill, in black. That will say enough.

Patrick, I am still looking for the wicker bill but with no luck. Any ideas as to where I can go to get one (a place that you know has them)? Dealer will not order me anything as the car did not come with the Aero kit from the factory. I am still also looking for the front lip too. And I am an agreement that with the black bumperettes, black license plate frame (surprised know one commented on my plate), and the black wicker bill it will look tight on yellow. So no badge is needed if I do that.

Likening the tattoo on a hot chick to a badge on the *** of a 911, so appropriate and perfect. I love it. How are these badges affixed to the body? Is it purely adhesive or do they also have stabilizing posts that insert into the metal trunklid? TD in DC - I think I may have seen your car at an autocross (at rosecroft) several years ago! It looked great then and does in that recent pic - unless there's someone else rolling around with a targa in the dc area exactly like yours.

Thanks. that was me. You saw me at my first and last autocross. I don't have anything against it, but now I do DEs and races with PCA and '44 cup. With respect to the badges, it is simple adhesive and very easy to remove with dental floss . . .

Steven, I was just in the reading room looking at a Porsche magazine and I saw an article on a 928 GTS. It gave me an idea. How about you combine a chrome 911 badge and a chrome GT3 badge for 911GT. With your aerokit, I think it would look great. It would definately be unique. I have seen similar unique badging on some of the Rgruppe cars.

I vote no badge...eaiser to wash, wax & polish...also, some may take offense to "911"

That 's a nice idea but I will have to pass since my car is not an official GT3 and I do not want to pass it of as one. If it was then maybe.

I agree, no getting the towel to catch on it, not worried about it saying 911.

go with silver....looks great on yellow even with black bumperettes (or paint bumperettes to match the car) 911 or Carrera is your own personal preference....but I thing Carrera is best/better.... center it both up and down and sideways ... hey, where did you get the spoiler? very nice....

I badge though was reluctant to at first (had to be talked out of "delete model designation"). Now I think it looks naked w/o (esp w/taco wing). Original config of silver Carrera 4. Towel catches are pain but that's just the way it goes.

Mellow thanks for the input. I see you are selling your car, something about the garage and wife, sry to hear that. Do you have a pic of the back of your car that you can post? My wing is part of the Aero Kit. The car didn't come with the car originally with it, but it is a Porsche kit.

Black Carrera, paint the bumprettes

Mr. C4 I really like your headlights in blue, won't work with mine, but maybe yellow ones would, just a thought

The blue film is mounted on my track headlights as I have 2 sets of headlights (track and street). I think blue on your yellow car would be fantastic but then the Swedish flag is yellow and blue............................

Hey no prob with displaying the colours of Sweden, but a Union Jack would be better though Hmmm blue film, now where can I get some from to test it? I am gathering it will stay on at speeds but will come of easy when time to remove?

It's just a clear sticker and it comes off in 5 minutes (takes longer to install). Mine is made by OROCAL but I'm sure 3M has a similar product. The good thing with the blue film is that if the lights are turned on, the projected beam is white with a slightly blue hue.

One last question, do they come pre-cut to the shape of the headlights, or do you have to cut from a roll? Thanks.

roll but precut are available. Think it's www.stickercity.com

I'm on the site now, thanks. Cool they have yellow too

You know, while I'm looking at the rear of your car, I'd also consider doing some new exhaust tips to fill out the rear. Having an aerokit wing with puny Carrera exhaust tips leaves a little to be desired.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I removed the badges from my M3... It really is a personal preference. Your stance is your stance and I respect that but what if I stated that people who install Aero sides on their 996 (and the wrong generation at that) and not the full aero kit are posers who are trying to pass off their cars as being full aero but didn't want to spend the money on the whole kit?...somewhat offensive no? https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/311538-question-about-my-option-codes.html As stated previously none of my cars have any model badging on them at all. I prefer the clean look and as a professional detailer I really dislike trying to work around all of the badging anyhow. I feel it's un-necessary clutter. It's badging a car incorrectly that I don't condone...which is why I don't even feel that the "911" badge is right for this particular car as it's not a Millenium edition or 40th anniversay edition which were the only cars that came with the "911" badging on the rear. Andy

You need to have something there otherwise, to me, it looks like a repainted car that they did not put the badges back on. Black is the obvious choice.

Just like what many Cayenne V6 owners do.

You're right. And that's exactly what the PO of my car did.

That was my thought too.

Point taken and I have added tip replacement to my list, any suggestions? Not keen on putting on tips that are designed specifically for certain models (i.e. I believe Turbo's have a integarted dual tip setup) as again I do not want to portray my car as something it is not.

Life is good, eh? People have time to argue all day about whether to put a plastic name thing on the back end of their iconic sports cars and in what lettering/numbering and color... how you would be perceived blah blah blah Sober up and make a decision already, SpeedyD.

Ben, I didn't think it would get to such a heated discussion, which it has been sometimes, but like you said 'Life is Good' and it is this type of discussions I enjoy having. But seriously it is constructive as it does give me an idea as what life is like owning a Porsche. How I am perceived by others does not bother me, I mean look at my license plate "DTH MTAL", that already implies my music taste which is not everyones and in most cases not expected from someone driving a Porsche, and yes you will hear the sound of Death Metal music, along with Black Metal, Gore Metal, Doom Metal, Dark Ambient and some others. So having a badge or not, I do not believe will make too much of a difference. My brother, who owns a Cayenne Turbo, is the only one that told me straight-up the first time he saw the car to get the badge. Yes as you know the wheels are going since they do put a certain classification about the driver/owner. Had someone drive up next to me yesterday at a stoplight, as I watched him look at the car I noticed that as soon as he saw the wheels he looked away shaking his head. In a few days that will not happen I am nearly done drinking so soon I will make a decision

Look at TD's post #45 on this thread. He has the same exhaust tips that I have and they fill out the bumper much more fully than say, post #42. I won't say for sure about his (as one never knows), but mine are OEM.

All Porsches should have a front and rear badge. Same goes for Ferrari. Debadged is nice for Merc and BMW and some of the imports but Porsche is different, its a racing thing. Also, have you considered Carrera graphics for your doors? Would look great on yellow and if you don't like it you can simply peel it off since its only vinyl. It's retro classic. Reminds me of the first time I noticed a 911 as a kid, yellow speedster in the early 80's. http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/gr...1/ws997pg2.jpg For the rear badge I would add a simple 911 in a gun metal or Titanium color. I had bumperplugs paint a 986 in seal gray and the S in guards red. But I'm sure you could give it a shot as a DIY project or have a local body shop do it.

You just validated my point on the types of folks that love the badged look.

perfectlap, thanks for your input. I have not considered graphics on the car and to be honest I would not, too much rice burner look for me. I like the clean Speed Yellow look with only a hint of other colour here and there, this colour being the same (Black is the colour of choice currently). I have new wheels on the way and they may make an impact on the badge, they arrive on Monday.

LOLOL hey dude, what wheels did you decide on?

Carrera graphics rice burner? LOL Ferry Porsche himself had these on his personal Carrera which resurfaced in a recent issue of Excellence. His Carrera graphics were painted on while the factory Carreras had the vinyl graphics. He also had the chrome trim kept to a minimum and opted for discreet black trim mouldings around the windows.

Ferry Porsche is dead. Putting vinyl graphics even on the GT3 RS is kinda... over the top for me. DO NOT put graphics on your 911.

I hear you but around where I live, I would blend in with the rice burners, they have graphics all over them, it's just the scene around here. There are not too many Porsches here so I do not want to blend in but stick out. If I lived in an area where there was more Porsches, then people would accept graphics. So to sum this up, in my area graphics is nothing new and know one would appreciate the value they have on the car, only me.

Ferry Porsche Lives!! allot of people are influenced by what Import tuners do (I think they popoularized the whole debadged and door handle-less look) with their cars and forget the history of Porsche which is long and important. Import tuners copy Porsche and Ferrari, not the other way around. If you look at the 997 restyling reverting back to the 993 look, Porsche seems to agree that history and tradition are important in design. But I still prefer the 996 to the 993 9 times out 10. Incorporating the 1995 LeMans GT1 headlights into the 1999-01 Carreas and 96-04 Boxsters was a great move forward in design.

pls get over your porsche ***** attitude. import dudes DO NOT copy no 911 and it's not nearly as vaunted as some of you guys make it out to be. it's a fine car with a long history, but it ain't no f-car.

Here's an old 550. Notice the lack of a badge and it still looks nice. Below it, you'll see another Porsche with a badge. They both look great. It's a preference thing. Pick what you like and be done with it. I'm outta here.

perfectlap, to be honest I did not buy a Porsche for nostalgic reasons, but if I wanted to I would be looking at keeping the car in it's original stock configuration. My car has already been modified and so it is now being designed around my taste, and that taste does not include graphics. I am not influenced by the import tuners, I just do not want to look like them. Maybe one day I will own 2 Porsches and then I can have my stock one and modified one. Again I appreciate your input and honesty and understand that Porsche history is important.

oh yeah i forgot to include Lamborghini, the import tuners copy them as well. Japanese racing programs like Mazda and Honda make excellent sports cars with great racing results in all manner of formulas from LeMans to Nippon. But Don't lump them in with import tuners who put sports cars on 30+ pound 19" chrome wheels and non-functional spoilers. I didn't mean to start a debate with the graphics suggestion, just wanted to point out that Porsche have been doing it for a long time now. Long before the fast and the furious crowd came around.

BBZZZZZZ. Debadging is a FACTORY option with Porsche. It has nothing to do with whether the car has been repainted or not. If you want to know whether it has been repainted, it is easy enough to find out . . .

Most everything on my car is OEM . . .

Debadging is a factory option at Porsche. When I used to live in Deutschland, I saw more debadged cars than I saw cars with all of the bling . . . You know what you are driving, why do you need to tell anyone else. And the racing thing . . . how many of you "race" your cars. Talk about ricer/poseur . . .

so are FACTORY cup holders in sports car.... you don't need to tell other's what you are driving. Its fairly obvious. The badge is merely a nod to the lineage. Otherwise the factory wouldn't have bothered to place anything there at all.

You said that a car without badges looks like it has been repainted and they failed to put the badges back on. I pointed out to you that, while this might be the case for a mass produced car that does not offer factory debadging, that line of reasoning makes no sense when Porsche offers factory debadging. It is just like any other option. so, cup holders are irrelevant. In fact, they are not even an option . . . they are standard. So, I guess, if you took the cup holders out you could make some argument that it looks like your interior was wrecked and you didn't fix it right since deleting cupholders was not an option from the factory.

I never said the car looked like it had been repainted without replacing the badges...that was another thread contributor. at the end of the day it is indeed a matter of personal taste. Nobody's paying for your pcar but you! p.s. Personally I wish they would have just stuck with the serial number designations instead of coming up with names like Paprika, Crocodile, Pandora, etc.

I agree with you about the last statement, but when you bring up cupholders . . . that just doesn't make any sense in the context of why I raised the fact that factory debadging is a factory option.

This thread is so dumb... all this ranting made me go out and take the badge off the back of the car already.

So I get out to the garage with some floss and what happens? I have badge remorse and decide to leave it LOL

Paul, can you post a pic of your badge on the car, red is a good comparison for me.

Total nonsense.

Paint 'em if you got 'em...

Hmmm...it's been mentioned before about painting the badge to the same colour of the car, now I see how that looks. Thanks for sharing.

looks cheaped out imo

No way, this thread is still active? It's on it's way to beat the "Disregard Thread". At least it has the same value of information. However, I can contribute three stages of my silly batching: Black (original) Nacked (so I had to put the hardtop on) Silver (final destination)

Yep it's still alive and I was thinking the same thing about it catching up with the "Disregard Thread". BTW...thanks for your input

Hey what happened to your wheels?

Anyone tried putting a badge off-center...like bottom right of the trunk? It looks cool being pictured in my head...

I have new ones on the way...I was getting slammed for having 'ghetto' wheels on the car, not my choice, they came with the car when I bought it 3 months ago. So I figured since I am so close to having my new wheels I would just black out the old ones...stay tuned

yep, cool like a pontiac aztec.

Years ago Carrera actually meant something. It was the most coveted and rare model. Now the Carrera (C2 Coupe) is the base model. Advertise it if you like. My Carrera Cab had the emblem delete option and came without anything, I later added 911 and am happy with my decision a few years later.

Nick, what's the difference between "advertising Carrera" and "advertising 911"?

No difference advertising one or the other, but the names evoke different meanings or sentiments from different people. As a sports car junky, subscriber to R&T, C&D before I could even drive 40 years ago, the term "Carrera" held the same reverence as "Carrera GT" does today. Funny how some things you learn as a kid stay with you.

Hey, nice photo you've got there. Looks exactly like one I took when I visited that car show. CP

CP, that is FANTASTIC. Great photo. Google search makes for such a small world. Actually, after looking at that old 550 spyder, I think I love the Porsche badge AND the 'PORSCHE' lettering in gold on the back. So classic. I'm almost tempted to rebadge mine. Then again....

Ok I have made my decision on this topic. But before I say what I am going to do I wanted to thank everyone for there input as it has helped. Also during the past few days I have taken notice of other Porsches on the road (not a lot of them around here unfortunately) and paid attention to there badges. So here goes: Badge = Yes Colour = Black Lettering = Carrera Now do I center it top to bottom (I know it centers from left to right)? Or is it higher or lower than center? If this becomes a drawn out discussion also I will just place it right in the middle/middle. Again thanks everyone.

You could try slanted, I don't think anybody has done that before.

IIRC, the '99 - '01 badges were placed up higher and the '02 - '04 were placed lower. I remember Loren from Renntech showing the differences. I am not sure if he has the exact spacing measurements or not. I'll try to do a search to see if I can find something to help you out. As long as you are going to put the badge on, it might as well be in the correct location for your MY.

gota911...much appreciated, I have seen you all over this forum and so I know you will find the info Thanks, Steven

I debadged all my AMG's to keep them looking like total sleepers. Everyone thinks your driving a 2.3 liter 4 banger. Took down lots of ricers and BMW/Audi with this strategy. With a Porsche, there are no sleepers...You won't fool anyone. Might as well but the badge on and let them know what they are up against.

Yep I debadged my Mustang hoping that people would think it is just regular GT, but with a roll-cage, cog-belt driven super-charger sound coming from under the hood, etc. it didn't work But I hear you and so yes that is why I am badging it.

and i bet it took every iq you had to come up and execute against this strategy all 10 of 'em

Steven OK, I found the measurements for placing the Carerra Badge in the correct location on '99 - '01 cars. For visual comparison purposes I have attached a pic of a '99 Cab (pic courtesy of kilrgt) which has the high badge placement and the second pic is my '04 C2 Coupe, which has the low badge placement. The 3rd attachment shows the measurements for placement of the Carerra Badge on '99 - '01 cars. Note that Measurement "C" is measured from the top of the lower case letters in the badge. Hope this helps.

nice find!!!

That does help out a lot, ty very much. Now I have to look at mine a little differently as I have the wing, but I get the idea. Thanks again

This thread is dumb, put the badge on your forehead!

Would anyone have the measurments for placing a 2003 C4S badge?

I don't have the measurements dude but if you go 3 times around your car, then take 3 steps back when you reached the rear end (try to stay between your two exhaust pipes) and fall down forward with the batch in your hands - lined up with your nose, then you'll find the right place to put the batch on your wide body (car).

It's in the service manual, but the factory doesn't follow it. I looked at several cars on the lot shortly after I bought mine and they were all over the place. Just put it where it looks good to you.

It's done. I located the original lid from the car (which the previous owner gave me but I forgot I had it as I stuffed it under some blankets in the garage ), and I saw that the badge was at the very top, even closer than the 35mm as mentioned in a post. When I placed the badge on the Aero lid in the same location it just looked to high for me so I lowered it a bit. I did place it temporarily right in the middle but that didn't look right and I wanted to be as close as I could to the factory location, so I placed where I liked it best in the end. If it is not 'exactly' where it is suppose to be, at this point I am not bothered. I like it on there now and that is all that matters

Nice job on the vertical placement! Mine looks too high up on the decklid also (the uppercase 'C' is too close to the spoiler), so i'm replacing it with a silver script while I'm at it. On your pic, is it just me or is your horizontal placement a bit off? The uppercase 'C' is within the left edge of the third brakelight, but the lowercase 'a' looks to have exceeded the right edge.

Hmmm...maybe it was just where I was at when I took the photo, but let me check (glad to have another pair of eyes look at it). Update: yep it is 7mm too far to the right. I measured several times, stepped back several times before 'firmly' pressing it down, it might have moved when I did press firmly, but probably not that much. So give me some time to see about getting it off again without losing the adhesive

Ok, I'll do another search. I believe someone pisted a pic recently with the EXACT measurements of trhe badge placement. I'll post it here after I find it. To be continued.......

Steven - the height at which you placed the badge looks good. However, as you have already stated the fact that it isn't centered... well what can I say that you haven't already said! BTW - since the badge placement was a little off, I'll give you a tip that will help when you get your new wheels. The widest wheels go on the back of the car! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Tim, TY...well I removed the badge but it didn't come off perfectly, left some of the adhesive material behind, so I guess I am back to being badgeless until I buy another new one, this time I am going to have someone else put it on though. Update on wheels, they will be on the car tomorrow. Will post pics on Saturday under new thread, and thanks for the guidance on which wheels go where, I am such a Mustang guy that I could of put them anywhere

Just buy some 3M automitive tape. My Brushed Silver badge came without any adhesive on it so I used this stuff (or something very similar). This is NOT the thicker foam tape. http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...glXPHQ158LR5bl

Tim thanks again. I just need to hunt this stuff down now around some of the local auto parts stores or auto body places, or just online. Don't feel like buying a case from 3M.

Yeah, I know, but I thought if you screwed up the placement of the badge a few more times, you might need a full case to get it right. Just kidding! That link was from the 3M site which lists only the wholesale packaging. I got mine at Autozone or Advance Auto Parts.

Andy - OK, I found the post I mentioned earlier. Check out this link. su20 did a great job documenting the measurements on that pic. BTW - good luck with that one! https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...6&postcount=19

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I've been wanting to change my badge to a 996 but have not found anyone that makes them. Anyone know or see a 996 badge out there? Someone suggested getting two sets of 968 badges but I think the font is different on that.

Perfect. Thank you.

I definately see the appeal in going badgeless! Right now mine says carrera. A big badge from the factory. I polish/wax/buff the car from the roof first, hood, sides and fenders, front bumper and then back trunk lid (with the badge) and then bumpers. Washing is about a 1 hour proccess, polish/wax/buff adds about 2 hours. Buffing around the carrera badge after you've done the rest of the car is like 3 looooong par 5s around the 14th hole on an 18 hole course. A true marathon situation to test your buffing stamina. So, I definitely see the appeal in going badgeless, or at least just '911'