Price check on 04 996 C4S

I could use some opinions on a fair price for the following prospect dealer car... -04 C4S -15,000 miles one owner -Very clean in/out -Porsche Certified until 2010 -MT Thanks for the help fellas.

$60-65k depending on options and general conditions

I'm selling my 03 C4S on Rennlist for $59,995 ad number 6528 "C4S, X73 suspension package, Sport Exhaust, Porsche Stability Management (PSM) 6 CD Remote Changer, Full Leather, Reversing Sensors, Xenon, Rain Sensors, Heated Memory Seats, Dimming Mirrors. Cobalt blue. X73 Lowered Sport Suspension. The factory X73 retrofit kits lowers the car 30mm in the front and 20mm in the rear. It gives the car a sportier ride without becoming too harsh and an attractive look. The X73 kit is for the 996 C4 "Turbo look". Comes with struts complete with special spring tops, spring plates, bump stops. This makes the installation a lot easier and faster compared to other suspension options. The kit also includes special motor mounts. Non Smoker, Never Wrecked, Repaired stone chip in windshield, 2 slight scuffs on wheel rims, no door dings, dealer serviced, immaculate condition inside and out,new tires, both sets of keys, owners manual, runs great. WP0AA29953S621130 " 23,000 miles

I paid $61k to a dealer for a nearly identical car 8 weeks ago. 04 C4S (Arctic / Metropol), CPO to 10/09, 15k miles. Not a huge amount of options but it included my "must haves": Bose, bi-xenon's, supple and techno wheels. Hope the data point helps you.

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That does help...thank you all. This one has a few nice options as well; PSM, xenons, sport exhaust, full leather, carbon goodies, heated memory seats. I may have to take a vacation to check this one out in person.

Duhh... like.... yeah!

I would pay no more than $60k from a dealer. Spoke to a dealer in souther Cal about a 04 c4s with the same specs except the mileage was ~27k. they wanted it $66k out the door. I offered $64k out the door they wouldnt budge, so i walked away. few wks later, i settled on a 04 C4s with 11k miles for..........$57K from a private seller. Im getting a 5yr/60k miles extended warranty from porsche dealer now for about 35 hundies. that will still put me ahead of the game! just my 2 cents. john

If you all remember, I traded in my car for $50k and got back $1400 from warrantydirect.com, netting me $51,400 on my C4S. I just found out the dealership took a bath on it. He had originally told me it was sold for $53k, I think he said. That deal fell-through. They ended up selling it for $49k!!!

Stories like these just make me feel warm all over.

Well this dealer will no budge more than $1000 of their price and they arent giving me more than wholesale for my trade in. I typically pride myself on my negotiation skills, but they are not budging no matter my angle. Ive tried cash with no trade and they still wont budge. This car is dam close to what Im looking for and I hate to have to wait to find another as Ive been looking for a few months. It is priced reasonably but you'd think you'd be able to negotiate a couple grand of the asking price right?

Dealers suck. Look around private party, you'll eventually find what you want, for much less.

Private party scares me without the CPO..especially the years Im looking at 03-04.

I worry more about the dealers than I do private party. There's a reason they have those fancy buildings, you know.

Well Kruz....how much do they want? The CPO is a great plus.... J

aftermarket warranty is always an option, IF it's not CPO'd

Aftermarket warranty scares me more...who knows if half of those companies will be in business years from now. Charging a few grand for a 10% possiblity of a $20,000 motor swap sounds more like gambling than insurance to me. This pcar is priced at $61.9....the dealer wont budge below $61.

UPDATE: I found an 03 C4S with the following -Seal gray/black -Manual -38,000 -CPO with 2 years left -Carbon package Any thoughts on a fair price? http://www.porscheofspringfield.com/en_US/

That's a great looking car. My twin! (although mine is an '02) I would think that car would be a great deal if you can get it for 54 or 55K. My local dealer has the exact same car here in NY....they advised me they won't let it go for less than 58K. Just a reference. J

You have excellent taste my friend! Seal gray is one hot color. The question I struggle with when comparing the 04 to the 03 is the incremental value of 2 more years of CPO, 24,000 less miles, and a local dealer. That's worth at least $5,000 but is it worth $10,000?

Tough one.....I bought my '02 last month.....didn't really care about the mileage (as long as it wasn't over 40K), which was 35K....but had a full 2 years on CPO. I bought from a P dealer. To me...that's enough to work out any kinks that would pop up, at least for the time being. I am using mine as a daily....and don't really care how much mileage I rack up. To me....there is really no diff. b/w an '02 and '04, so I sought an '02 b/c of price. Warranty was key. I ended up getting the C4S by a total fluke, as I wasn't even looking for one, but stumbled on mine which was in my price range that I set for a C2. I feel very fortunate. Be patient and the perfect deal will come along...you just can't sit on it and let it go. I made an offer on my car over the phone hours after it posted online. Figured...what the hell...I gotta try to get this one....it all worked out. J

Yeh I hear you...the fact that its 500 miles away and I dont know the condition of the wear/tear itms like tires, brakes, clutch makes it tough to compare. I know Im good on those items in the 12,000 mile car...who knows on the 36,000. It could need a few thousand there and the CPO doesnt help there.

Im not very good at being patient.

Yeah...I hear you too. That's what PPI's are for! And if it's certified, it will most likely have fresh brakes and tires, fluids, etc. I wasn't even able to get a PPI due to time and distance....felt very nervous about the whole thing. But the dealer took a gazillion pix for me of everything....including tires up close. I had him take close ups of each body panel...on angles too. Talk about being patient....my dealer was great. One of the best experiences I've had buying a car, and it was basically sight unseen. I had to have my car shipped 1200 miles too.....that was the biggest pain of the entire situation. Best of luck, J

Well...that one in Missouri sold today before Icould get down there to check it out. No big deal another will come along soon enough. Salesman said it went for $57. Someone overpaid.