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Check tiny metal filings...another early sign of pending disaster
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Also, tear the oil filter apart at each oil change to check for tiny metal filings...another early sign of pending disaster.
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Hell our schedule is already filling for fall, Dean scheduled two IMSR procedures today!
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That being said, I am totally in love with the car and plan on replacing the IMS with LN's bearing this fall.
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6 speed, or ??, that is predictive about a future failure...so long as you follow conservative oil change intervals...to include close inspection for early signs of leaks.
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I just read that IMS failure rate may be as high as 10%.
Regardless of whether it's this high or not, it seems as though it happens often enough to be a major concern when purchasing a used Boxster, 996, or even a 997.
My question is how the heck does Porsche avoid a recall when other companies have far fewer instances of failure but ends up having to issue a recall??? Granted I understand that some of these are safety related but remember situations with single digit occurances ending with recalls in the tens of thousands.
Forgive me if this issue has been beaten to death but I'm amazed at how Porsche gets away with these defects. Remember timing chain tensions???
One last time... RMS and IMS and AOS and D-chunk and slipped sleeves are not SAFETY related problems. Nor do they cause CO EMISSIONS violations. Thus no Federal mandatory recall. If Porsche chooses to overlook poor quality or bad engineering, then that is their business and the customers to decide. No different than avoiding or buying a Chevy Vega.
How full is your glass? Is it 10% empty, or 90% full? Are you a gambler or a Chicken Little. Buy a 996 or 997 and use the available preventative measures. Or wait until the 997.2's show up on the resale market. Of course, by then there will be plenty of identified issues and weakness for those.
What will you drive while you wait?
I've only heard of one IMS failure to hit the boards this year, someone on 6speed posted one the other day. I'm sure there are more out there, but the hysteria comes and goes.
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A quick search for "IMS" & "RMS" in this forum will give you all the info you could want. After that, try Google and get even more. I doubt that a new thread on this subject will gain you any new insights.
HoosierChristian,
i've done the searches and I agree that there are tons of threads on the IMS/RMS issue. However, most will delve into the technicalities of the problem rather than why or how Porsche gets away with no recalls when other car manufacturers (I guess) self impose recalls to fix defects.
On the other hand, given prior responses, I've never been one to bash anyone for posting a question, no matter how stupid it may seem. Isn't that what this forum is for?
Roadsession, I did see post 4 and appreciated the response.
Airrik, yup, same thing applies to Tip models. The only difference is that you have tiptronic. From what I understand it's more of a hassle to remove a tiptronic trans than a manual one.
Just returned from the National PCA Parade where Tech Seminars and Forums were conducted by the Tech Committee, and the IMS/RMS subject was covered in detail (again). As a '99 Carrera owner, I worry about these issues a lot, of course. But the reality seems to be that (1) only a small % of the M96 engine series seem to be vulnerable, and (2) there is no pattern in re. usage, auto vs. 6 speed, or ??, that is predictive about a future failure...so long as you follow conservative oil change intervals...to include close inspection for early signs of leaks. Also, tear the oil filter apart at each oil change to check for tiny metal filings...another early sign of pending disaster. In the meantime, drive and enjoy as life is short.
a ZF Tip is a little more involved due to some additional linkage and lines and pry getting to the top bolts, but an M-B Tip is a whole other project; the engine needs to propped back or better yet, drop the engine and trans together to get to be able to disengage the trans from the block. if your lucky , your tech should just hit you up for another half hour to an hours worth for a ZF Tip since it involves reinstalling in the same manner.
You'll have to direct us to where this was stated; as to date, no one has ANY hard numbers on the rate. A lot of the published figures have been put out in cyberspace by people with an axe to grind and people who make money off the issue. One is from Spain and one is from Canada. One owns a Boxster the other a 996. The common thread for these two seems to be my car blew up, it's unfair, I want to sue, everyone give me evidence I can bring to a lawyer. No where do they reveal their maintenance practices - no where do they reveal their driving practices or conditions of use.
I think they believe that if they repeat these numbers enough (the 10%) they will become factual adding value or force to their cause. Problem is; all this does is drive down the resale prices of 996's which in my case last year helped me - but does a disservice to current owners wishing to sell. I've seen all sorts of warnings concerning older 911's, 993's for issues to look out for. Issues that don't look cheaper to fix then 996's. Why the drama over one model?
How many people pulling their IMS bearings as a preventative measure report that the bearing was in fact... ok when it is removed? From what I've read it seems to match the number who reported their bearings failed. There are no sure things in life. (Wait: Well there is ONE sure thing but I don't want to depress everyone.)
The chances of your marriage breaking down are far, far, greater then the chances that your 996's IMS will fail. Consumer tip: buy a 996 and don't get married - you'll save money. If your already married, diamonds every year cost way more then the annual maintenance on a 996. Just saying.
They already have. The 9A1 DFI engines have had issues with the HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pumps) and reports of excessive sooting on tail pipes of some cars.
As someone researching the 996 prior to purchasing this was at least an educational read. Having been a member of several Audi forums and seeing the same questions asked repeatedly, especially by new members, I get it. But I do appreciate any thread that at least helps bring to light issues I need to be aware of as I begin my search for the right 911 for me.
How dare them enter the relm of high performance engines and rev their engines at high rpms!
You should see my bikes exhaust after a healthy crusie. For good reason the exhaust tip directs the flames clear of the bike.
I think its in reference to guys that sit around not driving their cars for long periods that keep saying I'MS gunna drive me car one of these days. Then when they finally do and all lube has rotted they call it the IMS failure
Happily I hope you got a better life after that comment than the prisoner got.
I am very tempted to click the report post exclamation mark on this comment. Due to not wanting the admin guy spit his coffee on his keyboard and screen and you being from big red country I am not doing so.
GO BIG RED !!!
I am so glad I didn't know about the IMS issues before I purchased by '99 last year, Im sure I would not have purchased a porsche.
That being said, I am totally in love with the car and plan on replacing the IMS with LN's bearing this fall. Hate to have the car tied up for the summer.
Keep in mind that EVERYONE else is in the same mindset.. Last year the supply of kits could not keep up with the off season demand.. Hell our schedule is already filling for fall, Dean scheduled two IMSR procedures today!
I'm not a native hawaiian either.
Big red does have some fantastic years like the years nobody could break through their line because they were always handcuffed together. To each their own for which team.
well I know he wasnt talking about my inputs
+1000 or so, had I known the issue and the cost of the repair in the event the issue presented itself i would never have owned what will go down as one of the best cars I have ever owned and loved
You know the tracked cars seldom have the problem. I know the solobikers and such are tough to deal with but you could just try to make sure you do some healthy acceleration and braking some times with out flying into a ticket or car confiscated and driven around by the vice squad.
Some day some way there might be another track on the island.
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