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And this guy starts telling them that I ran him off the road...
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I forgot to pay a ticket in Buffalo when I had ran a red light...
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I told him I signalled before lane change, whats illegal about it?
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However, I do have a favorite road that I like to run on my motorcycle called the Cherohala Skyway
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I am priviledged, 100mph is what I ussually set my cruise control on the highways around here when I just want to relax and listen to music, there is not too much traffic, people respect the left lane for the most part and radar detector does wonders, no lasers around yet
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the thing was i had my cruise control set on 69 (in a 65 zone) because i had just gotten off a red eye from seattle to boston and i hadn't slept in two days so i was exhausted and in no condition to be driving fast.
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I had an attractive young lady that worked for me, drove a BMW, got stopped numerous times for speeding, cried like a baby and got off every time without a ticket.
I've occasionally gone over 3 digits on a public road. I stress occasionally, in case anyone wants to get on me for recklessness. Never been caught, and I wonder what would happen if I ever did get caught. I've heard rumours about the car being impounded, licenses revoked, but they are all rumors. Anyone here actually had it happen, or know for sure about someone that had it happen and the consequences thereof?
Very interesting question. I've always assumed the consequences would be akin to getting a DUI but I would be very interested to know myself if someone knows exactly what would happen.
I got pulled over on Rt. 17 in NJ. I was doing 110 in a 50, was giving a drunk driving test (passed I had one drink with dinner)... the whole time I was really nice to the cops, VERY IMPORTANT.
Two tickets, one speeding the other reckless driving.
$1500 for a local lawyer (very important get a local)
He got them to dismiss the reckless driving ticket and reduced the speed to 74 in a 55. 4 points on my license.
Total fines $500
Technically for doing double the speed limit you can get arrested and the car impounded. So be real nice
It was a $2000 night out.
Rob
How did you get 4points on your license if they dismissed the reckless driving charge and only gave you 74mph?
Should that technically be dropped to a regular speeding ticket and only given 1 point?
4 points, OUCH! I would assume it cost more that a $2000 night. Your insurance should have gone up also?
Buddy of mine just got nabbed for 135 in a 55 by Dulles Airport in DC. Got 6 days in the can and 1 yr suspended DL. OUCH! Plus a few grand in legal bills so he didn't have to go to jail for the required 30-60 days.
In NY State the point system is as follows:
1-10 mph over the speed limit: 3 points
11-20 mph over: 4 points
21-30 mph over: 6 points
31-40 mph over: 8 points
more than 40: 11 points (any 11 points on your license = suspension)
Reckless Driving: 5 points
So I could have gotten 16 points!!
In '87 got pulled over by CHP. I was going 115, I was REALLY nice to the cop. He told me he could take me to jail, but was not, gave me a ticket for 105mph.
Had to go to court, pleaded guilty, paid $250 and got 2 points. I know it was cheap, but back then $250 was a lot of money for me.
I still drive at triple digit speeds (almost daily) but never got a ticket for 100+ since '87
riad......that is exactly what I thought. I asked how a first time offender say....selling drugs, vandalism, etc., can get off on probation, no jail time, yet he goes to the can for 60 days (lawyer got it reduced to 6) for speeding. Doesn't seem right.
I drive my C4 everyday and I always hit 100+ on certain parts of my commute but it's very short bursts. I recently got pulled over by a local cop, **** he practically pulled me over leaving my driveway for doing 68 in a 35... same scenario just as bad. I pleaded down to 45/35 just 3 points so now I have 7 points or so... have to be careful
These cars are incredible though you sometimes don't even realize how fast you're going.
Funny story when I was test driving the 911 I asked the dealer if he a Tiptronic so my wife could take it out for a spin (she doesn't drive standard) so she's tooling around about 45 mph and the dealer asks her to pull onto the interstate.... she starts to merge over an pick up speed, i'm in the back seat watching the digital speedometer hit 85 MPH and she had no clue. I asked her to look at her speed and she couldn't believe it.
Rob
Perhaps the judge, who probably cannot afford a Porsche, wants to show his displeasure by citing 'flagrant disregard for the safety of others' as his rationale for the jail time.
I am priviledged, 100mph is what I ussually set my cruise control on the highways around here when I just want to relax and listen to music, there is not too much traffic, people respect the left lane for the most part and radar detector does wonders, no lasers around yet
I'm so very glad I've never been nabbed for going 100+ even though I regularly hit it. My worst ticket has been 80 in a 65, which IMO is almost not worth getting pulled over for. I suppose I'll take that over a 100MPH+ ticket though.
Buddy of mine got picked up doin 107 on the drive down from SF to LA and the cops were total A**holes. He had to hire a $1000+ lawyer to plead down to 100 hours community service, a $500 fine, and 2 california points on his record (bad). It was either that or a suspended license for 1 year, so I guess he lucked out in a way.
Another close friend also got stopped for 105 in a 65 and for whatever reason the cop was nice and "only" wrote him for 90, so it was just a stiff fine.
Any California attorneys, judges, or cops know at what speed you are no longer eligible for traffic school?
BTW, be vigilent out there this holiday season! Word on the street is that cops nationwide are out to HEAVILY enforce traffic (speeding, DUI, etc...) starting today!
People drive the way they think, slow and stupid. Commuting 100 miles/day I've seen some really insane driving. I'm going to install a DV camera someday...
Just sent my ticket in from about 2 weeks ago... Got caught on the FL turnpike doing 109 in a 70... Down here points are easy...I only got a ticket for the speed (no reckless driving) which was only 4 points!!!(12 in a year=suspension). I just sent the ticket back and elected to attend traffic school (or do it online). This will wipe out ALL 4 points and knock 50bux off the only $273 ticket... Lucky for me the cop was nice and laws are easy down here!!!
Evan
I did once and won't mention the speed. He was merging onto the high way and did not have radar on when I flew by him. It was at night and I saw the cop chasing me in the rear view before he hit his lights. I slowed and he was so pumped with adrenaline and ready for a chase he about plowed into me. He was pretty irrate until he asked why I was going so fast and I responded something to effect of "just stupidity."
He wrote the ticket for only 90 in a 55. I got out of the ticket . . .
I was doint 135 for a brief 1/4 mile burst in a 944 Turbo S I had at the time. I had already taken an exit when a state trooper followed me to a smaller road. I promptly pulled over when signalled to do so. He came over and asked if I was in a hurry - I said no officer. He asked me where I was going. I told him I was going to the Sunoco gas station a couple of blocks away from where he stopped me, which is where I was really going. He haid he clocked me at 135. I told him that I didn't realize I was going that fast. I told him I was about to miss my exit, thats why I sped up. I apologized, he gave me a ticket for going 95 and illegal lane change. I told him I signalled before lane change, whats illegal about it? He told me for going over 100 he could arrest me and impound car etc, etc. So I didn't push it. I called a friend of mine who is a lawyer, we went to court got it dropped to a 2 point ticket and then took drivers ed course to get rid of points. It cost me $300 for attorney, and approximately another $350 for ticket plus court fees. Scary moment though. I try not to break the 100 mph barrier even for short bursts.
Here in Pa in June of this year we had a gentleman pulled over on one of our interstates clocked at over 200 mph in a Lamborghini. The radar stopped at 200. Car was impounded, driver arrested for dui and reckless driving and other. Just had his trial last month.Took five months for him to go to trial, car stayed impounded until the trial, was fined a large amount of money, lost license and sentenced to three months in jail. I think it made the national news also so some may have seen it.
Ahem.... some Porsches "around" my cottage are regularly seen "approaching" speeds that would otherwise impinge upon the drivers ability to "commute" to the office in order to make the 7.45am morning meeting...that being said, its amazing what a few thousand dollars in contributions to local police charities over the years can do for you in Northern Ontario! Such a good feeling to give rather then to recieve!
Merry Christmas!
i saw a story like this, it was a well-known doctor from new york. i think he was clocked around 180 mph.
ot but in a similar vein...what's the fastest you'll admit to taking your 996? i managed 168 mph, and didn't hold it for long (but the car was still accelerating)
I got caught at 97 MPH a year ago in my 911, I was super nice to the cops, and he wrote me down for 85+. I went to court and fought the ticket, at the trial, the cop was a no-show, so the ticket was dismissed.
On the other hand, the Judge chewed me out for going that fast. He concluded by sayng he also owed a 911, but driving a Porsche is no excuse to exceed the speed limits.
So I got off for free, Guess it was my lucky day.
Years ago, I was driving my 1980 911SC on I-75 in Florida. Doing about 85 or 90, see a car that looked like an unmarked cop car, but it's pulling a boat. I think, "Nah," and pass him. He gets right on my tail. It's unnerving -- lotsa nuts in Florida -- so I speed up. He's pulling the boat, so I quickly get some distance on him, pass two tractor-trailers, and one pulls into the left lane and blocks him, so I hit it, and get it up to about 115 mph (top speed in an SC (185 hp) is about 130 or so). I'm watching in the rearview, and I see the truck move back over, and then I see the blue lights. Oh, s---. I pull over. He asks why I was going 115 mph, and I say that I didn't realize he was an officer, and I was afraid he was some crazy person who was angry because I passed him. Believe it or not, he tells me if he ever sees me going one mile an hour over the speed limit, he'll take me to jail and lets me off with a warning. To this day, I think he just didn't want to bother with the paperwork or he didn't have a citation book with him. I apologized, thanked him and when I offered my hand he stared at it as if I was holding a turd out to him.
Two weeks later, a half-wit mechanic from my town who had an identical car to mine (1980 silver 911SC Targa) gets pulled over going 128 mph on I-75, this time by a Florida trooper. Trooper says, "Why are you doing 128 mph?" Mechanic says, "Because it doesn't go any faster." Bang ... off to jail, car impounded ... loses his license.
Goes to show ... attitude goes a long way in these situations. I was pulled over in Kansas doing something stupid in my 1987 911 Turbo -- the boost on those old 930s is very addictive -- and what I did was so blatant I started laughing when I rolled the window down, and the cop started laughing, too, tears were rolling down our faces, and he finally says, "Buddy, if I had a car like that, I couldn't resist it, either. Keep that damn thing on the farm roads, wouldya?"
Vic
99 C2 cab
Living in the land of the Lowest Common Denominator, you have to understand that even though our cars are capable, and so, probably, are we as drivers..most others are not able to drive very fast safely!!! As I have said before....Check out the car and driver next to you at the next light. Not only are they driving but they are voting and reproducing!!! Now how'd you like to see them blasting by you at 119 mph???? Many you wouldn't mind, but some......
When you get caught think..... Plea bargin!
FWIW, here's my 100+ story ....
In Mass, I got on I-93 North one day {doing about 90}, saw a Chevy Impala with tinted windows trying to keep up, so I figured, lets have some fun. I nailed it ... got up to 114MPH at which point I was already at my exit, so I hammered the brakes and ripped around the ramp and headed off to work {the Impala was gone} ... well ... hit a light and just after getting the green, guess who shows up ... Yup, the Impala, with lights under the grill going. Turns out, it was an undercover cop {agressive driving patrol}. He gave me a ticket for 100+. He had no idea what my real speed was, he said he hit 100 and I was pulling away. I contested the ticket, was found responsible by clerk, appealed that, and then found responsible by judge. Cop was upset, but never threatened a tow or anything but speeding violation.
I was coming home late one night when I hit a stretch of very winding roads that I know like the back of my hand. I one point I passed a BMW doing the speedlimit (40MPH) I was doing about 90 when I passed him and shortly noticed that he was speeding to keep up to me... well I was hitting these hairpin turns doing 85+ and I looked in my rear view to see him fly off the road and into the trees and grass.... don't know what happen to him or the car but it clearly shows that people think they can do things their cars certainly can not. I know the limits of my driving and the limits of my C4...
Rob
P.S. I've taken mine up to 145+ MPH on a straight stretch of I-81.
Nice
294 kph is about 182. that's better than book. 180 mph makes the national news here when you guys accross the pond get to do it legally (deutschland, anyways).
actually, the most impressive aspect of the 996, imho, is the acceleration from 100 mph to top speed...simply astonishing--especially for a paltry 300 hp!
How exactly am I a big jerk? Did I invite that guy to drive like an idiot? Did I force him off the road? Did I do anything to him whatsoever?
Listen if you want to flex on someone driving a $90,000 car than you better know what you're doing. I'm not responsible for morons that can't drive... sorry.
Yeah, that post sounded bad. I almost suggested that you delete it so it would not be taken in such a bad way. Also hate someone to see that if by the off chance they knew the guy and he is now dead because he sat injured and unfound for several days. I have seen lawsuits over less.
I drive fast, too fast, I however, always back off when ever someone acts like the want to play. I don't even like people following behind me on the highway to take advantage of my radar detector and etc. Afriad their dumb *** might plow into if traffic gets snarled up.
doug- you're exactly right. I HATE it when people drive fast with me as long as i'm taking the lead. if you set them up so they MUST pass you, funny how the pace slows, isn't it?!
I like giving them the ol' 'speed-up, then lightly-hit-the-brakes-just-enough-to-light-up-the-brakelights' trick....watch their front end dive as you pull away....
if you're drivin' fast with me, you'll take your pull at the front.
oh - and i've never been CAUGHT over 100. bless my V1.
In '86 or so I was caught trying to find out how fast my Alfa Spider was. On FL Turnpike (3AM, Completely empty, 'cept for me and the cop) I got it over 105, but resumed cruising at 80 or so. When he pulls me over he says I was pulling away from him at 95 so he giving me ticky for 99. I asked for a break and he says "Son you earned this one."
This was spring break and by the time I got back to school my parents are all over me about going 99. Still don't know how they found out.
riad
now leaglly, i have no idea what you're responsibilities are and...i think it would have been nice if you stopped to check out the other driver but i trully don't think you were under any obligation to do so. Two people made a choice that day. One persons choice netted them little more than a speedy trip another persons choice netted them an unplaned offroad adventure (and possibly death). while the later is unfortunate it has little to do with you riad. we are not after all lemmings.
and an answer to the speed question... i got my cab up to 160+ this morning on my way home from work and it was still pulling hard!
Imagine you're going 105 in your 996, you hit a piece of metal debris in the highway, shred a tire and off into the trees you go. Would you want the person in front of you to say "That's what that idiot gets for driving his Porsche so fast!" and continue on their way or would you want them to stop and call 911 if you were injured or trapped in the car which was about to catch fire? Jeez.
Vic
99 C2 cab
The only time I have gotten nicked was on the way to Vegas from LA. Was going 115-120 but was able to slow down a bit before he caught up to me. Written up for 89 and was able to go to traffic school to clear it.
I think my being polite and certainly the 11-99 license plate frame helped (best $1200 investment I ever made
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That's exactly my point. I was 1/4 mile ahead of this guy the whole time, we were not racing. He went into a large grassy area, not off a bridge. Here's the other thing, let's suppose I did pull off the road, double back on the other side, go into the grass and to help this guy and he pulls out a gun and kills me because he thinks it's somehow my fault. Or another scenario, he's hurt or his car is damaged and now the police come by and start asking awkward questions. And this guy starts telling them that I ran him off the road... now it's just his word against mine, and how do you think that would work out??
Come on people I don't want to see anyone get hurt ever, but the point of my original thread was not that I was happy to see him off the road (by the way if you're going to quote me, then quote a complete sentence) but that many people drive beyond their abilities, and/or their car's abilities.
If by any means someone thinks I was happy about what happened please reread the original thread and accept my apologies.
Rob
I have never been nabbed at +100mph in a car. However, I do have a favorite road that I like to run on my motorcycle called the Cherohala Skyway
www.cherohala.com.
The last time I was there the group spent more time talking to local law enforcement then we did ridding. In that part of the US anything over 100mph is a FELONY. A couple of pals got slapped with court appearance tickets which resulted in stiff fines. The funny thing was that we got clocked by a helicoptor. Luckily it was in an area where we were chugging along at 80mph and not +140mph a little earlier. I should note that the speed limit there is 45mph.
For many years we never had any problems, but this area has become very popular with car clubs and sport bike enthusiasts. Almost all who are over driving/riding their ability. IMO anyone who wants to test their limits should do so first on a track. Be safe
So ... do nothing is the other option? Nice!
Hopefully you're just trying to justify you actions now, because the bare minimum you should have done is dropped an anonymous dime to 911 to let them know you saw someone go off road, and you're too self absorbed to actually double back and see if they actually need help, but, you didn't want the fact that there may be someone in the ditch slowly bleeding to death, to follow you to your self centered grave!
I'm kinda with RIAD on this one. The litigious society in which we live dictates that RIAD made the logical choice. I can just imagine the "off-road" driver suing RIAD for somehow getting him into this situation. Add to that law enforcement crawling up your butt and that makes for a very sticky situation.
HOWEVER, the one thing that I would have definitely done (as Pete01 suggested) is call 911 and anonymously report a TC.
These days you have to use your head even when following your heart. This sounds cold to many of you, but you can thank your democratically elected liberals for allowing society to get to this point.
First of all I don't need to justify my actions to you, so let's get that clear right now. Second, if I thought that the incident was serious I would have called 911. The guy skidded off the road and onto the grass, the worst that happened was his pride was hurt.... man you really need to get off that pedestal you're on. You weren't there, you don't know the circumstances and I guess in Boston everyone is just so nice that it wouldn't have been a problem for you to go back and help; however, in NYC it's just not that way.
So let's leave it at that. If you are morally superior to the rest of the world perhaps you should start your own religion, let me know how that works out for you.
The New Story:
The Original Story:
OK, I'm definitely not morally superior, cause I'm letting my pride react to your comments here ...
I have to point out that my comments were in response to your original story.
Certainly didn't mean to sound preachy ...
I'll zip it now, cause this is so far from the sort of thing I like to chat about ...
Peace man
, by the way ... I love your city and find the people there very good natured!
I frequently made the 400 mile trip from NC to NJ many years ago in my 928. I always cruised at 80+, but on certain trips in light traffic, I would let wind drag be my cruise control (probably around 130 - the speedo was pegged at the Fed mandated 85mph reading). On one pre-dawn ride on I-85 in NC, I was making great time
and was very surprised to notice headlights a couple of miles back since I hadn't passed anyone and the Escort hadn't lit up. It was still dark, and I was already over-driving the H4's at well over 100. When the headlights didn't go away after a few minutes, I foolishly (in hindsight) coasted down to the limit after loosing sight of the other car over a hill. It quickly caught up to me and lit up blue! I had gotten more than my share of tickets previously, including one trip when I ran with a 635Csi through a couple of states at triple digits, but this was the first time I wasn't able to engage the ABS before being clocked or paced at close to top speed.
I pull over and the cop orders me out of the car, hands on the trunk and approaches me (no gun drawn, which I half expected). He told me he had been in pursuit at his top speed for about 10 miles and that there was a roadblock being setup at the State border (about 5 miles north)! He was apparently at the top of an entrance ramp when I blew by (this is how I've collected most of my speeding tickets over the years). He handed me a ticket for 100+mph with a mandatory court appearance, and told me I had to follow him to post a bond since I had an out of state license. I follow him to the local court house and we wait for a clerk to show up and swipe my credit card!
Young and foolish, about a month later I show up in traffic court sans Lawyer and plead No Contest, figuring I'd pay the fine and be done with it. The Judge was PISSED because he couldn't take my license, and hits me with a $300 fine + 30 days!!! I approach the bench and basically beg for mercy and he suspends the jail time.
In hindsight, I really doubt I would have been thrown in jail, but you never know. In about 20 years of driving very fast (and safe), and at least 100 points spread over 3 licenses (it always a good to be "out of State"), this was the only time I was actually written up for over 100!
OK, peace!! I just want you to know that I was not bragging about this guy going off the road, it was just an example of how people drive when they don't know the limits of their ability.
Also, I'm a huge Boston fan been their about dozen times. If I had a choice to live anywhere buy NYC, it would be Boston.
I really think this whole thread was a serious misunderstanding. The next time I head up to Boston, I'll buy you a beer!
Rob
I think the thing we are arguing here is ethical vs absolute obligations
assuming one wanted to live a long life he would need food, water, shelter and compainionship...nothing more. these are absolute objective obligations
Ethics, on the other hand are highly subjective. Do I call the police?
Do I call the police if I know they are killed or injured? The answers to these questions can be much more difficult because the consequences could be dire for both you and the victims. (for you potential arrest for them death?)
Of course, I would like it if I was hurt or injured and someone calle 5-0 for me....but that doesn't meani think they are obliged to do so.
As a pop culture example take Rush Limbaugh...recently fresh out of rehab for narcotic abuse and there is a question as to whether he broke the law obtaining those narcotics....personally i think he is a bigot, and a hypocrite at the least...but i fully support his right to try to keep his records secret....the man does not want to go to jail!....even though i hope he does on a personal level...i support his right to try his damdest not to!....he is under no absolute obligation to cooperate in his own destruction.
Lastley I do think that there are some ethical decissions it would behove us to make. Such as not randomly murdering other people, or molesting children. The point is these are clear infrigements on the right of others.
Riad as infringed on no ones rights.
Even if I new that the guy could have been seriously injured I am not certain that I would have called anyone for fear of prosecution. My thinking he made a poor choice and now b/c of that we may both go down? I might just keep rolling along.
i got a ticket doing 97 in a 65 one night at about 4 am. i was slowing down from 130 to get off the exit ramp.
thankfully it was my first speeding ticket in years, and the first in my p-car, so the cop said "you're lucky your record is clean or you'd be going to jail tonight". it cost me $350.
since then i've gotten 5 tickets in the last year. the last one the cop said "you were doing at least 85-90" and he said he was pacing me from behind. the thing was i had my cruise control set on 69 (in a 65 zone) because i had just gotten off a red eye from seattle to boston and i hadn't slept in two days so i was exhausted and in no condition to be driving fast. @$$hole cops. after that one i've just floored it a few times and i never see the cops again. (i don't recommend doing this...) last week i got pulled over by a cop and he said the speed limit was 55. i pointed to a speed limit sign up ahead that said 65 and said "no, it's 65" and he didn't know what to say. cops just don't like you if you're a p-car driver...
Every time I've been pulled over you could tell the cops were begging for you to be an a-hole just to give you a hard time. If you diffuse the situation by being really nice it goes a long way. Even if they don't cut you a break then and there, they will usually work with you in court.
One problem that we all have is that these guys have a job to do, and we're zooming around in near $100,000 cars. There is definitely resentment from some of them.
But for me they've all be ok, no real blatant ball busters. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Ha-ha.. Berretta references are hard these days.
The problem in the UK is that if you don't get busted by a traffic cop, the cameras will most likely get you anyway. They are everywhere. On the motorway, I sometimes take the car up to about 90 but then only for short bursts where I know there ain't no cameras. Fastest i ever took the car was 147mph and then I crapped out. I did that once when I first got the car. I took it to about 130mph the other day for a short while down some roads that I know are quiet to test out my new tyres. Apart from that I am generally a good driver......but when I get to the continent, everything changes
In the Uk, we have a 12 point system. The national speed limit is 70Mph. If you get busted (depending on speed) you usually loose 3 points and get fined. But points on your license means higher cost of insurance. Thankfully the points are cleared in 3 years.
But IMHO the law in the Uk is warped. I once got called out a late friday night cos my son had been mugged. He was unconsious. But before he went unconcious he managed to stumble to the police station. The police rang me. Told me to come up to the station quick. I jumped in the car, I
have no idea what speed I did but it was f...ing fast. When I go there, the police man said to follow behind the ambulance to the hospital. I did that with ease of course. Trouble is, I got camera flashed going thru a red light. The ambulance had all sirens and lights flashing and I stuck behind like glue. But he went thru the light and I followed. Son was fine. A few bruses.
But a few weeks later I received a ticket in the post from the camera trap. I went to court. Judge said in view of the mitigating circumstances, I would not be fined. Just gave me 3 points and a warning. What a load of crap that is........guess he was jealous of my porker.
Thank god I have an awesome lawyer here in LA who specializes in 100+ mph violations. He has only lost once (when he first started practicing in this area), since then he has had no convictions... either dismissal or traffic school.
He is handling one for me right now! Wish me luck!
I keep making donations to every trooper organization that has called (pre- do-not-call laws) and paste the star decals on the left rear passenger window so the trooper has to see them. There are some unspoken traffic-ticket etiquette rules which also seem to help. Like, pull way over to the right so the trooper isn't hanging his butt into traffic, lower your window so he can see you, keep both hands on the top of the steering wheel so he can see them, and politely and matter-of-factly accept whatever he says, admit to not being aware of the infraction (or the degree of infraction) and apologize. That, and my V1, seem to have helped a lot. I think Porsches are greater ticket magnets than sedans, but my experience is that Corvettes are worse. I have never once gotten out of a ticket while driving a Corvette, but have gotten out of most in my Porsches. Hope I haven't jinxed myself). On the other hand, my wife ususlly takes a humorous but smart-*** approach and always gets the ticket, and has twice had her car impounded (for expired tags after being caught speeding). AS
Driving back to Toronto... going through town of Preble... get pulled over for doing 83 in a 65... I pulled over to far right, turned the cabin lights on, rolled window down and had both hands on the wheel... trooper asks me why I think I got pulled over... I said perhaps I was going a little quick but didn't realize it... he said 83 you were doing... I apologized and he asked me if I had any other tickets in NYC... I said I'm squeaky clean (remember this part!)
He comes back and tells me my license is suspended since 1993 HOLY ****! I forgot to pay a ticket in Buffalo when I had ran a red light... he said he would have to tow my car and take me to court but that would be a hassle so he was just going to give me a ticket instead for 83!... my lucky day I guess!!
how much is the fine for 83 in a 65?
Having a couple friends who are in law enforcement, I have been told that most cops either do not notice those fancy little stickers or actually go out of their way to give you a ticket because you have them. Apparently they think you are TRYING to get out of a ticket by having the sticker, so they make sure you get one.
The only 2 I know that work are the CHP 11-99 and KMA-LA license plate frames.
Parkman,
Wonder if you would have gotton the ticket if you were alone and you stated crying?????
I had an attractive young lady that worked for me, drove a BMW, got stopped numerous times for speeding, cried like a baby and got off every time without a ticket. I'd call that discrimination.
My wife was pulled over in the Cayenne one night with me and the two girls in the car. Cop asked her where she worked and she told him the name of the private school and he let her go with a written warning citation. She said she had heard that cops are lenient on teachers and etc. or any employees working in the public sector. I never get let go, but I always manage to get out of them.
In NY State the point system is as follows:
1-10 mph over the speed limit: 3 points
11-20 mph over: 4 points
21-30 mph over: 6 points
31-40 mph over: 8 points
more than 40: 11 points (any 11 points on your license = suspension)
Reckless Driving: 5 points
Talk to the cop before you get to the judge and see if he'll reduce it to 75 this way you'll only wind up with 3 points. Take a defensive driving class and they'll all go away. Don't worry about the fine - just get the points down. My last ticket was 150 bucks in that range.
I was nabbed in broad daylight, 120 in a 65 zone on I-280 in Palo Alto, California.
However, I too know the "ticket etiquette". I pulled over to the right *immediately* when I saw the CHP on my rear, hands were on the steering wheel. I had the top down so the officer had no trouble seeing inside. He still wrote me up. He said he had been in the process of writing some notes after ticketing someone else and wasn't even looking at the highway - he *heard* me pass by. :-)
However, first court appearce in CA the officer is not required to show up. You have two choices: Guilty/no-contest == ticket OR Not-guilty == another court appearance. At the second court appearance, I made a point to try to nicely talk to the officer outside the courtroom. I apologized for making him come to court but I really [sic] believed I might have been just going a hair under 100mph (66mph - 99mph are the same 1 pt ticket in CA). In court, I repeated that. The judge asked the officer if he would ammend the ticket. After some belt-hunching and chest puffing, he gave in. I got a lecture. But, I also got 70 in 65 zone instead of 120.
I don't normally kiss butt so much but my wife was 7 months pregnant and 2 points would have made me lose my license. I don't even want to know what a whoop-a$$ I would have gotten if I had lost my license so I was "inspired".
In July of 2002 I was clocked at 104 in a 65 on 23 north of Columbus, OH. It was a clear day and there was no traffic. The trooper wrote me up for 104 as I was clocked from an airplane. The ticket was 2 points and $145 fine with court costs. I just mailed it in.
I've never liked to donate to Police organizations and feel intimidated when they call and ask for a donation. As a tax payer I like to think they work for me and I doubt donations have much impact on avoiding tickets.
I've had my P-car 1 year now and no tickets. I don't know how I managed this as 100mph is so effortless and I could have been put into jail several times.
Remember 1 out of 138 Americans are in prison!! more than 2 million.
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