FS: 04 996 Cab **New Clutch and Porsche Crate Engine**

I've enjoyed my 996 for four years, but the time has come to move onto something else for a while. Recently picked up a Lotus Elise, a car I've wanted to a long time, and my wife is anxious to get her garage spot back so I'm selling the 996. Overall the car as been wonderful and bulletproof. About six months ago I had the engine go out on me, the origional thread detailing the ordeal can be found here - https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=44617 I've listed the car for $34k, or best offer. Please feel free to ask questions, and if anyone would like a specific pic I can easily run out to the garage to accomodate. Thanks! **New upgraded engine from Porsche. New clutch within past 6 months. New tires only have 2,000 miles on them.** The car is Arctic Silver with black, full leather interior, & 320 Hp. Base price new was $78,400 and the original owner spec'd an additional ~$17,500 in options ($95,420 total). Arctic Silver Metallic - $825 Black Full Leather - $3,280 (dash, storage console, etc.) Technic Package - $6,335 (stability management, power seats w/ 2 memory settings, heated seats, xenon headlights, wheel caps w/ colored crest, bose high end sound package) Remote CD Changer - $715 (6 disk) 18" Turbo Look II Wheels - $1,435 Sport Shifter - $790 (short shifter) Thicker Steering Wheel - $675 Storage Console Lid - Leather w/ embossed Carrera Logo - $265 Sport Exhaust - $2,400 Aluminum & Leather Shifter/Brake Handle - $825 This has always been a third car for us, only driven on nice weekends, always garaged, and rarely driven in the rain. The new tires only have 2,000 miles on them. About 6 months ago the car suffered an internal failure in the engine. Porsche North America provided the new engine and I paid the dealer to install it. The new upgraded engine from Porsche came in at a little over $20k (covered by Porsche) and the installation was around $4,500. We had the clutch replaced because it made sense to do so when the engine was out. New clutch and throwout bearing (aprox $1,000). The car drives like new! The car has a nice throaty exhaust sound with the Sport Exhaust. The full leather interior has always been conditioned (I'll throw in a bottle of treatment). The top is in great condition and has been protected with RaggTop sealant twice a year. Paint is also in great shape, I've always used Menzerna and BlackFire products. I am the second owner of the car and have the title in hand. If you'd like any specific pic's please let me know and I will be happy to send them.

no pics? what is the mileage?

Sorry, right at 65k miles on the car. Pics can be found at - http://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/3815023846.html I can always take specific pics and email them to anyone interested. Thanks!

Adding a pic and dropping the price to $33,000 OBO. Hope everyone has a great Memorial Day weekend! photo 12.jpg

Thought I would give this thread a bump. Also adding a pic of the thicker steering wheel as I've had a few requests. My wife is antsy to get her garage spot back... Let me know if you'd like pic's of anything specific and I'd be happy to post them. Thanks!

Price reduced to $32,500 OBO. Thanks!

Great looking wheel....and car as well. GLWS!

Where are all the 996 lookers? Huge plus with a new motor, somebody should scoop that up fast.GLWS

It really is a nice car. Its a shame the selling price will probably be closer to $28,000. Hope Im wrong. We feel your pain.

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I can understand where you're coming from. I think people can always find a car for less money, just depends on what maintenance they're looking at once the purchase is done. 60,000 mile service - I think I paid around $700 at the dealer. This engine has around 1,500 miles on it New Clutch - depends on how the car was driven, but parts and labor can approach $1,000 or more IMS Bearing - Can be upgraded when you do the clutch, this car has the upgraded bearing from Porsche Misc wear items (water pump, AOS, etc..) - While the engine is refurbished by Porsche, everything attached to the block is new Tires - the Sumi's are in pretty new condition, would be around $1,000ish +/- to replace At the end of the day, other than the transmission, just about every major wear item on this car is new. I'm not in a huge hurry to sell the car, although it would be nice to have the extra space in the garage. That's why it's listed as 'Or Best Offer.' Thanks for the input!

I guess I missed the thread, but Porsche paid for the new motor??

Yes. Porsche provided the motor. I had to pay for the install and the parts/labor for the clutch. The whole ordeal can be found by clicking on the link in the first post. Funny story - The dealer called and told me, 4 days after submitting everything to Porsche, that they would give me the motor just as my wife and I were getting ready to board a plane. My wife fond out earlier that same day that she was getting a promotion. And we were headed to Vegas... We looked at eachother after I hung up in a little bit of shock. Felt like we should bet it all on black!

Price lowered to $32,000. I'm going to try to post a scan of the engine work paperwork later today as I've had a lot of requests for it. Thanks!

Listed the car on Autotrader.com ( http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ngId=349772499 ) for $32,500. Price for Rennlist member is $31,500. I'm also including the invoice for the work done by the Porsche dealer on the engine/clutch below. Please let me know if you have any questions. Hope everyone has a nice holiday weekend.

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I bought a car with a freshly factory replaced engine (consider it a big plus) but should point out to you that the new upgraded bearing is NOT replacable during a clutch change. It is larger and no longer fits through the hole. Thus, if replacement is needed or desired, the only option is to split the case, i.e. unrealistic as standard maintenance.

Sounds like a very nice car! I had a '99 Silver Cab with a new factory motor, $95K MSRP, 61K miles sold 3 years ago for $30K. The guy that bought it is still very happy with it. If I was looking for another 996, I'd buy yours. GLWS

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I agree with you. I was just trying to poing out that there are two options for updating the IMS in these cars for those who are worried. You can replace the bearing when you do the clutch, or you can purchase a car that has already had the engine go and has a newer engine with Porsche's updated bearing. Either options has a cost associated with them, for those people looking at picking up a 996 a car with an updated bearing may be an attractive option.

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Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll be back in the Porsche camp again someday, just need a bigger garage first...

2 months left on factory replacement engine 2 yr warranty = some piece of mind.

I have a factory replacemnt motor done 19K miles ago it's running like new. 2002 C4 Cab now same IMS as the 08 997

Just a thought - for those of us in the know, this would be more than a fair purchase. For those who are not enthusiasts, the detail on why the replacement engine complete with the invoice might scare them off. The invoice made me feel a little better as my dealer charged me about $2,200 for labor and a few misc. parts when they swapped the motor in my 2004 C4S a few months ago. I have 40k miles on the car with less than 2k miles on the motor, and man does it run like a dream. I realize this doesn't really help you, but if I was still employed and not needing to live off of my savings, I would most likely scoop this one up and add it to the stable. I hope somebody realizes the value of this deal and seizes the opportunity.

I don't know why this car is not sold yet ! great vehicle, new engine !

Thanks for all of the positive replies. At the moment I have the car listed for sale on Rennlist and Autotrader. Any other sites you would recommend? I also was curious how the non-enthusiast would react to the engine replacement. For those that know about the 996 it would be a nice plus, but not sure if it would be a red flag for others?

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Because it's a silver cab, there's a ton of them out there. Price it correctly and it will sell within a week. Beautiful car, by the way - good luck with the sale.

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Craigslist. I've done well listing cars for sale there. GLWS

Thought I would bump this thread for the weekend. Price is still $31,500 or best offer. I've had a lot of interested people, but nothing definitive yet. Hope everyone is doing well!

Sorry the sale is slow. Recommended it to two different prospective buyers. Seems like a great car. GLWS.

I also recommended it to a friend who was looking at a pricey yet questionable Turbo Cab. But he has his heart set on a Turbo. Patience, it'll happen.

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it!

Dropped the price on my AutoTrader ad to $32,000. Price for the Rennlist community is now $31,000.

Your getting close and closer to my predicted selling (quick) price, which is sad because it effects all of us. I sincerely hope I was wrong but I was just looking at the downward trend. As news of the settlement continues to leak out, it may get worse. Its a shame this car is hard to sell, even at $31,000. Its so nice I would consider keeping it rather than just dumping it. You can thank the net scare gurus for the current 996 trend. Most people believe that if a car maker admits an issue, it must be really bad.

Thought about holding onto the car, but it would get drive so rarely I'd rather sell it and use the proceeds to pay off the Lotus. It's been a great car though!

Thought I would give this thread a bump for the weekend in hopes it catches the eye of someone looking for a nice 996 Cab. Lowered the price on Autotrader to $31,500. I would like to get $30,500 if you or someone you know is interested. Have a great weekend!

Questin here is why did Porsche cover the motor in a 9 yr old car, was it CPO? IMS failure prior to settlement ?. Why didn't they cover the install labor? Might have a friend interested.

The car was CPO when I bought it back in '09. All of the major maintenance had been done at the dealer (ie 60k service), although I'd always changed my own oil, replaced water pump, etc... This was all pre-settlement, everything I'd read up to that point basically said don't count on any help from Porsche. The dealer did say that when they ran the diagnostic (checking for over-revs) they didn't see anything to indicate missed shifts or general engine abuse. When they called and said they'd provide the engine, but I would have to pay for the install I was pretty happy to say the least!

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Porsche provided a crate motor with labor on me for my 04 C4S in April of this year. I purchased it private party and it was NOT a CPO. Although I was initially disappointed to own a car that needed an engine at 37K miles, these days I couldn't be happier as it runs extremely well. I trust that you will submit a claim for the labor you paid as I believe the settlement covers 100% if you are/were the owner of a CPO car. I think it would be sweet to see you recover some of the labor dollars.

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And the new motor comes with a two year unlimited mileage warranty from date of purchase. Since the dealership installed, the labor should also be covered under warranty

I'll definitely be submitting the claim to hopefully recoup some of the labor costs. Thanks for passing the ad along to your friends, I appreciate it.

I've had some request for interior pic's showing the dash and leather. Thanks

Just thought I'd give this thread a little bump. I've had a lot of interest in the car, but nothing definitive yet unfortunately. Thanks, Chris

Although your 996 is very nice and has some great extras, to most uneducated potential buyers it may look like an "ordinary C2 Cab". Nothing really unique that makes the car stick out from the tons of other out there. Now if it were a C4S Cab, that would be a little more unique. The NA996 market is really odd. Sometimes "Cab" is not even a plus. I see your down to $30,500. Lower it to $28,000 or $29,000 and I bet you will get alot more attention. Sorry its taking so long to sell. I think Im stuck with mine so Ill just keep replacing parts and save it.

I just picked up a 2004 C2 Cab ,6spd, 75,000 Porsche serviced miles, new,upgraded IMS, RMS, and clutch 10,000 miles ago, Lapois Blue and Tan leather with Partial Wood interior, heated seats,PSM (iThinks it is the Technic pkg) Upgraded Bose stereo, , litronic lights, and hardtop for $26,000. Just to show you whered things are at.....Hope you have sold your by now.

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Actually just finalized the sale of the car yesterday. I'll let the buyer share the price paid as he's a Rennlist member if he want's to. I never thought the 996 would be so hard to sell, especially considering the new re-furbished factory engine. I'll be back in a Porsche someday, would love to add an old classic 911... Take care, Chris

Congrats on the sale. When I bought my C4S the seller was also a tad surprised that there wasn't more interest in the car (at his price). Of course, I was the *** for the seat and paid up, I have no regrets in so doing. I really love the car and it is equipped almost identically to my C2 and very close to what I would have ordered if I had the kind of money to buy new. (and thanks to Porsche it also has a new crate engine)

silotwo, what kind of catastrophic engine failure day would be necessary to get you to fire up the Aurora? OP, congrats on the sale!

One other observation I'll throw out. Porsche people seem to have a misguided attitude towards the 996. Partially because of the air-cooled vs water, and maybe because it was somewhat mass-produced. I don't know... But the average person looking at the car couldn't care less. Non-Porsche people just viewed it as another 911 and had no clue what the differences were between model years. Those buyers just wanted a Porsche. Another thought as to the hard time selling is probably just the shear number of 996's available, vs the 993/964/etc. More of a buyers market where potential buyers can be picky about getting just the right options for them. At least that's how we were when we first bought the car. At the end of the day it was a great car that we had a lot of fun with.

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LOL - impeccable timing - I am about to fire up that 4.0 Northstar for a trip to Lowes, it can haul a few bundles of insulation in luxury. The olds has become a back-up ride for my junk trucks from time to time - one with a bad brake line and the other with a water pump that is about ready to puke (yep, even a Ford can lose a water pump). I have quite the list of automotive DIY's. Motor mounts are on the shelf for the C2 as well two jugs of Mobil 1. The cars are like this house, the longer I put stuff off the longer the list grows. The C4S did have a catastrophic engine failure but luckily the C2 remained in full service and kept me from jonesing.