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YOUR RESEARCHcall me crazy ("custom" 996 on CL)
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I guess I'm used to seeing cars at the track/autocross that used to be really nice 150k miles ago and now the owners have said "screw it" and gut the interiors, install coilovers, put huge checked flag stickers on them, etc, and generally have a lot of fun.
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The fact the owner of the car has no concept of grammar or proper spelling is more a flag for me to avoid the car than their suspect aesthetic taste.
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And just to further stir the pot, that's probably the original IMS bearing.
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Maybe we should debate what's the best oil to use on your original IMS for 154k miles?
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As far as personal use, the color scheme is really bad.
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I guess I'm used to seeing cars at the track/autocross that used to be really nice 150k miles ago and now the owners have said "screw it" and gut the interiors, install coilovers, put huge checked flag stickers on them, etc, and generally have a lot of fun.
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This has some pretty standard ricer treatment- aftermarket LED tail lights, some crazy recaro knockoff seat conversion, fake carbon fiber, plati-dip paint, black aftermarket wheels. Maybe it's because it's impossible to mess up a MK1 aero, maybe it's because it's Duke colors, but I actually kind of like this car.
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/4020761314.html
That car is horrible. Porsche 911 with "Fast and Furious Mk5" package, disgusting. Dom Toretto said that he never races for pink slips against Porsche 911s, as every time he comes to collect the car previous owner would remove the engine and leave the spare tire in its place; even Mad Scientist could not figure out how to put 2JZ engine under that hood.
I really don't see anything that horrible with it. I have the same tail lights tinted and do not think they are rice. Price seems like a good deal if it is well maintained. Different strokes for different folks. I also can't tell if it is fake carbon fiber or real.
From my understanding, the best thing about plasti-dip is you can just peal it off and back to original.
Besides the seats, and CF hood/ roof (fake or not), I don't think it's that bad looking. I wouldn't pick those wheels, but there is nothing wrong with plasti-dip... If you don't like it just peel it off. At least it was protecting the wheels from wear...
I kinda like what he did with it. If the seats were porsche sport seats and the wing was removed I could really dig it. I really dislike the aero wing on the 996...looks like it belongs with a 18 year old driving his slammed civic.
This is my take on this car and why I consider it horrible. This Porsche has multiple low budget modifications that add zero value and make the car less desirable. Ricer lights, interior modifications, two tone paints are fine on sub $3,000.00 cars. On the $80,000.00 car they are completely out of place. Do you paint an extra grill on Mona Lisa to make her look hip and cool? I didn’t think so.
Adding extensive visual, mechanical, and interior modifications makes the car less desirable and less appealing for multiple reasons. First, what appeals to one person can completely turn off others. Second, quality of the workmanship on the modifications is always suspect. Third, reasons for the modifications.
Most people want a blank slate when they buy their next vehicle. They want it stock and factory original. This Porsche had extensive visual, interior, and mechanical work done. Do you know who did the work? Why was the work done? Were electrical touched? Who did the performance parts? Car is lowered, has loud exhaust mod (no cats- no torque), has new clutch and ricer appeal. Was the guy into street racing? Was this the HIN show car?
I personally would not touch a modified car with a ten foot pole. When I was in school, I was working in the dealership. We would never offer good money for modified cars, and if we did take them as trade-ins they would always go to the auction. If you want to make the most $$$ from your car, sell it as 100% stock with no hints of previous mods.
That car did not cost 80K brand new
Because you own a 996 does not make you elite, it is a budget Porsche
Any mods he did were his own and guess he liked them
If you trade in your 996...you will get raped anyways
Most dedicated new Porsche owners are not looking for a 996....just saying.
1. 99 996 with some options and with taxes was $78k. Even if you add taxes to the completely base price of $68k what do you get?
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2. Where is the elite part coming from?
3. Mods he did belong on the civic, not Porsche.
4. Trade-in information applies to any modified car.
5. People prefer 100% unmolested stock cars regardless of the make.
If you disagree with my information regarding the value of modified cars, go and speak with GM of any large dealership in your city. If you are feeling lazy, hit up Ebay and compare modified vs stock prices of similar models. I saw a guy trying to move his modified E60 M5 at measly 25K months now.
I think the truth lies somewhere in between the above posts. Some mods add value, some detract. Some may be worth more to a particular buyer, some may be worth less.
But, overall, the car in this post has horrible mods. Jeez, a satellite radio antenna on the roof?
As much as I hate the poor radio reception in my car, I would NEVER do that!
And, what's up with that rear quarter piece that looks like a delaminating tongue depressor?
"...crazy recaro knockoff seat conversion, fake carbon fiber...
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Shameful mods on this car, really. Mods only a Ricer's mother would love.
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That car screams... Teenage incompetent 'would be' racing car driver. Abused. Gear crunching, loudest sounds, rubber burning Cop magnet. Its a ****ing red neck wagon and nothing else. Porsche owners have a lot more class than driving ****e like that. See me, I have a lot of class. You can tell by the way I express my feelings. Oh and the way I inform the world that I own a 911 Porsche Carrera by badging up on the back. Not de badging like the modding sheep of this forum like to do. God forbid you might be different and have a brain of your own. This years 911 got the idea from me haha.
This is all conjecture and personal opinion on the appearance of the car that can be changed, and not helpful advice. No sense debating "taste" Make sure the mechanicals check out. Fact is you can get a MK2 for 25K with lower miles. Fact is the MK1 aero is the best looking aero on the road, according to my self survey of one.
I say "Lighten up." With 154k miles, preserving this car in its original state stopped making sense long ago. As for the trade in value of the car being ruined, try trading in a car with 154k miles in any condition - the used car manager won't give a damn about the mods. That car is headed either to the budget lot out back or the auction no matter what it looks like. With a car like this, the guy had some fun with it - most of you guys looking down your nose at it wouldn't dare consider buying a car with over 100k miles on it anyway.
Oh, and yeah those Mk I aero wings are just hideous.
Mileage has NOTHING to do with preserving the car. Ricer mods don't belong on the Porsche, period. Preserving the car in the original state is important regardless of the miles.
I drove this mustang for two years in college. I got it from original owner with 180k miles, in the picture it is at 220k+ miles. Original engine, all original body panels. Transmission was replaced at 165k. At 220k+ miles it was still getting compliments from everyone. I got pulled over doing 123MPH in it. Cop came over, and first thing he said was "You have a very nice car sir, you should not be driving it this fast. Would be a shame to wreck it". Gave me a ticket for 93MPH instead
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You misunderstand.... my comment that this car looks horrible has NOTHING to do with trade in value. The mods look exactly like what they are... poor-quality, ill-fitting, tacky crap. Of course, knfeparty is free to own it, drive it, paint purple polka dots on it, whatever. Still looks like a $20 hooker.
True enough. My comments weren't meant to be any sort of "advice". It's also true that opinions regarding appearance are subjective. However, if you research the concept of aesthetics, you will find that there are some universal attributes of beauty that the majority of any population has a general consensus of. This car does not meet that consensus.
I'm sure someone is very proud to drive this one too:
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wow quite a commotion I caused...
Those "tonque depressors" are factory options, that's considered part of the "full" MKI aero kit!
I guess I'm used to seeing cars at the track/autocross that used to be really nice 150k miles ago and now the owners have said "screw it" and gut the interiors, install coilovers, put huge checked flag stickers on them, etc, and generally have a lot of fun. I'm not trying to say that this car is going to fetch any sort of good price but I do think the PO had some fun with it and it is a rollbar, 2 gt3 seats, an IMS bearing, and interior removal away from cheap fun trackday 996 that you wouldn't feel bad about dinging up if something happened.
I'm not buying it; I have a 40AE already although I do envy the MKI aero kits.
And just to further stir the pot, that's probably the original IMS bearing. Maybe we should debate what's the best oil to use on your original IMS for 154k miles?
It's not that bad, I could have that car looking fantastic again in a weekend. It's all bolt-on lipstick mods. The fact the owner of the car has no concept of grammar or proper spelling is more a flag for me to avoid the car than their suspect aesthetic taste.
It is not a bad looking car for the price. I am not a fan of the taco wing, or those particular wheels. I like the color and the engine could be in very good condition. Let's face it, not all of us can afford a low mileage 996 with X51 upgrades PSS9 suspensions, and $5K HRE wheels etc etc
Some of us who admire and desire a Porsche buy the high mileage ones that require closer maintenance, necessary upgrades and some changes to personal taste
. Yes, I drive a Porsche because I like them and I always have, and I also enjoy creating an image with my car
It is a matter of personal taste and it is unfair to criticize others because they are differnt
Non Factory Items on the car can easily be reversible. I would consider it merely because I love that blue and you don't see too many in that color, not to mention factory aero with it. My $.02
Completely agree with you. Found this other ricer 911 with 2 tone paint and interior modifications, completely out of place and Porsche would never sell this!
That is really hideous!!! Why would you put that huge rear wing and that ugly front bumper? I'm sure the guy that owns that hasn't even dealt with the IMS too!
Fail on your part. You are comparing a factory painted race ready GT3 911 that left Stuttgart in that paint scheme with a 996 that was sprayed with plastidip, has riced out interior, and loud exhaust.
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If you like the car, buy it! Some people want cars as they looked from the factory, others like to modify them. If it is hard to sell the car later, remove the non factory items! Simple!
Robert
JMHO but that car just looks awful inside and out. This was predicted by a member awhile back. The cheaper the 996 becomes the more its going to get the stupid, ugly, cheapo, knockoff mods. The 997's are sounding better and better. Perhaps the entire group can just agree to move to a 997 and we can just let the 996 thread section be permanently closed. Depressing to see this.
As far as the GT3 RS, I would imagine Porsche's choice of such an outrageous color combo is that the car is meant to stick out on the race track. As far as personal use, the color scheme is really bad.
