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The RMS issue is very overinflated.

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Replace nex time you have either (1) and rms leak

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You'll have your RMS replaced nex time you have either (1) and RMS leak that requires replacement; or (2) replaced when you have a new clutch installed.

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Replace nex time you have either (1) and rms leak

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You'll have your RMS replaced nex time you have either (1) and RMS leak that requires replacement; or (2) replaced when you have a new clutch installed.

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Replace when you have a new clutch installed

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You'll have your RMS replaced nex time you have either (1) and RMS leak that requires replacement; or (2) replaced when you have a new clutch installed.

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Use instead of the factory 996 seals

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Have you guys heard of GT3 Motorsport Seals being used instead of the factory 996 seals?

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Replace nex time you have either (1) and rms leak

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You'll have your RMS replaced nex time you have either (1) and RMS leak that requires replacement; or (2) replaced when you have a new clutch installed.

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Replace when you have a new clutch installed

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You'll have your RMS replaced nex time you have either (1) and RMS leak that requires replacement; or (2) replaced when you have a new clutch installed.

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Use instead of the factory 996 seals

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Have you guys heard of GT3 Motorsport Seals being used instead of the factory 996 seals?

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very overinflated

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The RMS issue is very overinflated.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Take the car in this morning for its 15K service. Good news is that I learned that I am still under full warranty - I thought that ended last year and I was now in CPO but I was a year out An hour after I leave the dealer I get a call and I recognise the number. Uh oh. RMS. I'm told that they are going to fit the Cayenne seal. I thought the general thinking these days is the 997 seal. I know this is discussed to death and the search I just did didn't really settle my mind. Car is on the lift at this point so not a lot I can do I guess.

POST 2Original post

Don't worry about it. It's a pretty easy fix and most mechanics have done them before. The RMS issue is very overinflated. -Charles

POST 3Original post

How is this dreaded news? You have a 2003 and it is just now getting it's 15K service? It is probably leaking becasue it hasn't been driven enough to keep the seals from drying out.

POST 4Original post

So when the seals dry out, that's when it starts to seep? My car was never driven by the previous owner, 02 w/ 12k miles... I suppose I should start driving it or at least get the RMS replaced. 15k is coming up anyway. Opinions?

POST 5Original post

The deals will be MORE prone to leaking if they are dried out or didn't seat properly. You'll have your RMS replaced nex time you have either (1) and RMS leak that requires replacement; or (2) replaced when you have a new clutch installed.

POST 7Original post

Arnee, Drive it anyway I wouldn't go about replacing it until it needs to be done. My car never needed one until 35k miles, I think. Some cars may never need it. Looks great, by the way - welcome! Justin

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

well i have put 5K of that fifteen on it since i got it six months ago and i'm driving it every day...... one off - maybe? could also be the start of a journey to a new engine. two extremes, but who knows. not something i wanted to contemplate, thats why for me it's dreaded news.

POST 9Original post

wow, the sensationalism of this RMS leads to a new engine myth has really bit you good.

POST 10Original post

I was in the same situation. It appears that the new seal seems to work very much better than the one which came on your engine. I was happy to get the new one at Porsche's expense.

POST 11Original post

Yeah. I also believe it's because it's blown out of proportion. It can be fixed for a relatively low cost; free if within warranty! For me, I'll just drive it until a new clutch is necessary. Have you guys heard of GT3 Motorsport Seals being used instead of the factory 996 seals? I read it on RennTech in a post.

POST 12Original post

I have NEVER heard of a PMNA part being used. Not even sure if the seals match up since they are entirely different motors and transmissions.

POST 13Original post

cayenne seal doesnt fit in a m96 motor. its a cayeene style seal

POST 15Original post

if it's under warr. drive it like you stole it and hope if anything is going to happen to the engine that it happens when you have the warr. it's all gravy then.......

POST 17Original post

This RMS thing is a bit crazy. Because you have a leaking seal you think the engine may go, not so. The seal is a $20-$30 part. Its only a pain cause you have to drop the trans to get to it. And its just a leak when it does go bad. This is simply a common problem, but it shouldnt be an alarm that your engine will be a POS or something. Dont worry about it, it will be fixed and will be a non issue. Dont read anything into your engine cause of a single leaking seal.

POST 18Original post

hey lvdell...... just trying to say that if the car is under warr. you should be okay. and that once the car is out of warr. that's a major concern bc of the cost to fix it...........hope it didn't come off as somrthing else........

POST 19Original post

nope, didn't come as anything else. Just asking what kind of logic it was. If you don't plan on keeping it past the warranty then if you treat that car "like you stole it" then you have nothing to worry about. However, if you do decide to keep it past the warranty, you best take better care of your car

POST 20Original post

thanks lvdell........i value your opinion greatly.....

POST 21Original post

Thanks Smile Nice having people around that appreciate the advice

POST 22Original post

The other issue though is the ISS. That COULD cause catastrophic engine failure and its symptoms are oil leaks also, right?

POST 23Original post

The IMS (intermediate seal) as well as the RMS does not cause engine failure. A total loss of oil would cause the failure. But for a RMS or IMS to to fail and have all 9+ liters of oil escape is so remote it's not even worth thinking about.

POST 24Original post

the seal leak is jsut a leak nothing breaks becasue of it when the ims breaks there is no oil leak before it goes , once it breaks all the oil comes out, theres little warning (slight grinding noise from the bellhousing area...ive seen one pre failure, you never really know) and even at that point your gonna need an engine

POST 25Original post

Gotcha. Thanks LVDell and 99firehawk. Either way, if I see a drop every 3 days, it sounds like it's not the end of the world. Thanks.

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