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Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

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YOUR RESEARCHNoisy valve lifter on cold start-up

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cheapest of all the model lines individual issues

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Just be glad the RMS issue is the cheapest of all the model lines individual issues.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up
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Replace by dealer this past spring)

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Mobil 1 synthetic (Replaced by dealer this past spring)

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up
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noisy hydraulic lifter

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The dealer advised me that the problem is a noisy hydraulic lifter and that due to it being an isolated problem, PCNA recommends replacing all lifters to be on the safe side as it's almost impossible to locate which one knocks.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

really a non-issue

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Then again, the RMS issue is really a non-issue.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

Replace by dealer this past spring)

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Mobil 1 synthetic (Replaced by dealer this past spring)

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

Replace lifters

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The dealer advised me that the problem is a noisy hydraulic lifter and that due to it being an isolated problem, PCNA recommends replacing all lifters to be on the safe side as it's almost impossible to locate which one knocks.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up
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Replace by dealer this past spring)

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

Mobil 1 synthetic (Replaced by dealer this past spring)

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

Replace lifters

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Suggestion · Original poster

The dealer advised me that the problem is a noisy hydraulic lifter and that due to it being an isolated problem, PCNA recommends replacing all lifters to be on the safe side as it's almost impossible to locate which one knocks.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

Run right now

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what oil are you running right now?

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

Use "forte" oil additives

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I remember in the past using "Forte" oil additives on some old water cooled VW's and half the time they actually worked.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up
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cheapest of all the model lines individual issues

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Just be glad the RMS issue is the cheapest of all the model lines individual issues.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

noisy hydraulic lifter

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Reported cause · Original poster

The dealer advised me that the problem is a noisy hydraulic lifter and that due to it being an isolated problem, PCNA recommends replacing all lifters to be on the safe side as it's almost impossible to locate which one knocks.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up

really a non-issue

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Reported cause

Then again, the RMS issue is really a non-issue.

Noisy valve lifter on cold start-up
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I've got an '01 996 C2 with a new problem. Recently, on a cold morning, I got a clacking noise from the engine. Once warmed up (approx.1 minute later) the noise disappears. The dealer advised me that the problem is a noisy hydraulic lifter and that due to it being an isolated problem, PCNA recommends replacing all lifters to be on the safe side as it's almost impossible to locate which one knocks. Problem is that as the parts are about $800 bucks, labour is in excess of $2K due to the requirement of pullling the engine to perform the work. I remember reading somewhere that there is an oil additive to eliminate or cure this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Mobil 1 synthetic (Replaced by dealer this past spring)

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Do you think that it may be oil viscosity related? Funny how the noise never surfaced during previous years around the fall season.

POST 6Original post

I am not suggesting this, but usually when the tappet gets dirty it will not pump up instantaneously. In the past I have been told by many people to add a little ATF - because it is a detergent, and it cleans the tappet = viola. I am in no way suggesting this but it did work on small blocks in the past and was regarded as being no big deal. Maybe if this was done right before an oil change? I dunno and am not recommending it but simply relaying what has solved this prob. in the past.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I hear you about the ATF. I remember in the past using "Forte" oil additives on some old water cooled VW's and half the time they actually worked. Then again, a 1600 cc 4-banger was easily found in a scrap yard if we screwed up. Hearing all this fuss about RMB oil leaks and off-centered crankshafts really gives me goosebumps. Did the 993 engine have this bad of a rap?

POST 8Original post

993 had it's own "bad rap" as well as other 911 models. Just be glad the RMS issue is the cheapest of all the model lines individual issues. $800 and you are good to go. Looks like the newest fix (4th gen seal) is the one that might be the one to ultimately fix the seal seating. Then again, the RMS issue is really a non-issue.

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