I saw this on the C6Z06 forum

I thought this was very well written and captures the sentiments of many of us. We are all part of a greater community of car enthusiasts who enjoy owning, modifying and driving fast cars covering the spectrum of makes and models. We should respect owners of other brands, just as they should respect us. We should set the tone for that mutual respect, even when owners of other brands fail to do so. This applies to all types of performance cars, from Lambos to Vettes, Ferraris to Cobras, Vipers to Supras, BMWs to LS1s, etc. Notwithstanding the obvious and considerable differences between these cars, the owners often share many things in common, including most importantly, a common passion for fast cars. We should cultivate that commonality -- our shared passion -- rather than disparaging one another based upon brands and creating walls between makes of performance cars. You may not like a Camero or a 350Z, but respect the car and the owner who put countless hours of blood, sweat and tears into modifying the car and enhancing its performance. Respect the awesome performance attributes of the C6ZO6, Viper and Cobra, as well as the owners who love these cars, even if you could have purchased 2 Vipers, 3 C6ZO6s or 6 Cobras for the price you paid for your GT2. The owners of these fine cars are no less car enthusiasts than you and I, and they deserve our enduring respect. Likewise, we deserve their respect. Car enthusiasts should endeavor to foster a mutual respect that transcends makes and models. Mutual respect is what its all about, and we should lead by example.

Well said. Behaving unto others as we would want want them to behave unto us is good Karma. hmm...I guess I better start waving to those 'vette drivers now.

I think most people here feel the same way.

That's like asking Red Sox and Yankee fans to stand arm-in-arm and sing Kumbaya.

Yeah, plus they didn't even mention Porsche. I see it as a slap in the face. (I'd be great at the UN)

Actually I posted just an excerpt. Here's the entire post and it was written by a Porsche owner: This was posted by Craig at 6speedonline.com, copied here with his permission. I am a great admirer of all types of performance cars, including both domestic and imports, and, as time permits, I occasionally peruse several different car forums, ranging from Cobras to Vettes, 350Zs to Supras, LS1s to Vipers. During my visits to these other forums, I have discovered that many non-Porsche owners often stereotype Porsche owners as arrogant, condescending and disrespectful of other car owners. Having participated in the Porsche community for several years now, I know this stereotype to be wholly inaccurate and unwarranted. It has been my experience that Porsche owners are, with few exceptions, genuine car enthusiasts who respect owners of all different makes and models of cars. Unfortunately, there are a small minority of Porsche owners who occasionally make statements that do a disservice to the Porsche community and give credence to the stereotype that we are arrogant and disrespectful. During recent months, there has been a good deal of discussion here about the C6 ZO6 and, to a lesser degree, Vipers. Some here like/own these cars -- others do not. For the most part, these discussions have focused on performance issues and remained respectful, regardless of whether the poster likes or dislikes the C6 ZO6 or the Viper. However, a few posters have occasionally posted disrespectful statements disparaging owners of Vettes, Vipers and other cars. A few posters have suggested that these other cars are �inferior� to Porsches, as are their owners (e.g., early this evening, a poster suggested that owners of C6ZO6s live in trailer parks). Such comments are disrespectful and, equally important, harmful to the Porsche community in terms of fueling the negative stereotypes. It appears to me that many of the stereotypes relating to car owners often arise from financial considerations relating to the cost of the car. Certain owners of less expensive cars think that Porsche owners overpaid for an inferior product, and assume that Porsche owners are uninformed and do not realize that other, purportedly better options are available for less money. Conversely, a few Porsche owners perceive less expensive, domestic and/or Japanese cars as per se inferior, regardless of impressive performance statistics, and disparage owners of these cars based on unwarranted stereotypes. The irony in this hierarchal quagmire is that, on the Ferrari and Lambo forums, Porsches are occasionally referred to in inferior terms, and Porsche owners are occasionally stereotyped as wanna-be supercar/exotic owners who cannot afford the price of admission. Likewise, on domestic car forums, disparagement of imports and their owners is common place. Even domestic car owners denigrate one another based upon the enduring Ford v. Chevy debate. The disrespect and unwarranted stereotyping among car enthusiasts is remarkable. There are a 1000 different considerations that get factored into car purchase decisions, and everyone analyzes and balances these considerations in a different, unique manner. Some place greater emphasis on straight line performance . . . others are more focused on turns . . . some want value . . . others do not care about bang for the buck . . . some want cars that can be modded . . . others are intent on keeping the car stock . . . some want cars that serve many purposes . . . others want single purpose cars . . . . some want back seats . . . . others want something as small and light as possible . . . etc. etc. etc. Financial considerations are only one piece of the puzzle. Moreover, many people who can afford much more expensive cars do not purchase them for a myriad of reasons, including value, perception, etc. (my friend will not purchase a Porsche, even though he can easily afford one, because he does not want to be perceived as excessively wealthy by his employees). Likewise, many Porsche owners also own Vipers, Vettes, EVOs, and Supras, and some former Porsche owners even sold their Porsches in favor of Vettes and Vipers, among others. VRAlexander is among the best examples of a someone who owns many different brands of cars, including a Lambo, Camero, Porsche, Nova, Viper, Supra, Vette, EVO, etc. etc etc. No one here would suggest that he fits any of the stereotypes occasionally posted about owners of domestics or imports. Just as VRAlexander is undeserving of such stereotypes, so to are most owners of domestics and imports (just as Porsche owners are not deserving of the stereotypes often promulgated about us). It should also be observed that 6Speedonline has MANY active and valuable members who do not own Porsches. These members own Vettes, Vipers, EVOs, BMWs, Supras, Cobras, etc etc etc. Yet, they are knowledgeable car enthusiasts who enhance our community, and they do not deserve to read negative stereotypes. We are all part of a greater community of car enthusiasts who enjoy owning, modifying and driving fast cars covering the spectrum of makes and models. We should respect owners of other brands, just as they should respect us. We should set the tone for that mutual respect, even when owners of other brands fail to do so. This applies to all types of performance cars, from Lambos to Vettes, Ferraris to Cobras, Vipers to Supras, BMWs to LS1s, etc. Notwithstanding the obvious and considerable differences between these cars, the owners often share many things in common, including most importantly, a common passion for fast cars. We should cultivate that commonality -- our shared passion -- rather than disparaging one another based upon brands and creating walls between makes of performance cars. You may not like a Camero or a 350Z, but respect the car and the owner who put countless hours of blood, sweat and tears into modifying the car and enhancing its performance. Respect the awesome performance attributes of the C6ZO6, Viper and Cobra, as well as the owners who love these cars, even if you could have purchased 2 Vipers, 3 C6ZO6s or 6 Cobras for the price you paid for your GT2. The owners of these fine cars are no less car enthusiasts than you and I, and they deserve our enduring respect. Likewise, we deserve their respect. Car enthusiasts should endeavor to foster a mutual respect that transcends makes and models. Mutual respect is what its all about, and we should lead by example. Craig

Amen to that...very well said. In the end, car enthusiasts of all stripes. My first real 'performance car' was a '69 SS Camaro and since then I have owned other American and also Japanese, British and German cars. I love my p-car ('dream' car for me), but people buy and enthuse over what they can or want. A good friend's son has started down the path - just purchased an old BMW, loves the thing, is already modding and loves cars generally (knows as much as I do about my Targa and M.B.). Great to see. .... then again, some healthy competition is always fun.

here here !! i'll drive to that, to each his or (her) own. !afterthought! pssssssssssssst, but there still in no substitute for a P_car can we still say that here

"Respect the awesome performance attributes of the C6ZO6, Viper and Cobra, as well as the owners who love these cars, even if you could have purchased 2 Vipers, 3 C6ZO6s or 6 Cobras for the price you paid for your GT2. The owners of these fine cars are no less car enthusiasts than you and I, and they deserve our enduring respect." He mentioned the GT2, but in this limited context I took it as a slam.........

looks like typical chevy-guy whining.

Dan V Can you read it was written by a Porsche Owner! Please read the whole thing again and learn.

Hence the stereotyping.

soon, we'll have peace in middle east! : )

Best Post Ever.

Good grief that guy is wordy. I bet his wedding vows went on so long half the audience fell asleep. I've read shorter biology textbooks. Plus, he probably owns a 924.

I think it's safe to say that everyone on here has been a car enthusiast for a long time, and has owned many cars besides Porsche's that they've loved during their lifetime. While there have been some disparaging lifestyle comments made about hypothetical Corvette owners in the past, ins't that part of the purchasing decision for some? If buying a car was as purely scientific as some car testers make it ( higest skidpad rating, 0-60 times, speed in a slalom) we'd probably all be driving STI's and Corvettes. Not buying a car because you'd feel like speed racer in it (STI) or Bob Guccione (Corvette) is just as valid a reason as any.

I have one thing to say about this: If I was to buy a vette (which I kind of like..from the outside..I have to admit) my wife will divorce me! And let's not compare apples and oranges....Vette's have their own heritage...so they are cool...but Japanes cars (no matter how great they are right now) are just cheap ripp offs, of all other european and american cars.....made a little trendier...but with no real heritage.....I have NEVER seen an old Japanese car (except for maybe a Datsun Z series) on the road today and thought that that was still a nice looking vehicle...but I have seen and admired a lot of old vette's....and other muscle cars and european cars. As for respect to one another......there are different breed of people, who react differently....that will never change...once we are in our cars..we become a little bit competitive and little Michael Shumachers........ who cars...live drive and there is (still) no substitute!!!

A perfect example of loving the car but still not wanting one for yourself for style and not performance reasons. I think Corvette's are great looking from the outside too, and after driving a neighbors I know the performance is exhilirating. It's 40 grand less and probably as much fun, but the Porsche is still the car we love.

What about the NSX, all they have ever done is a minor face lift and the car look as good today as it did in 1993. Not to mention the cars amazing handling characteristics, it would make short work of most of our 911's on the track. RX-7 is another extremly good car, especially at the time it was new it mopped up the E36 M3 (similar category car I'd say). I don't think any of those cars are cheap ripoffs. Honda bucked the trend, rather then making a high horsepower super car, they stayed within the japanese 280hp limit and consentrated on saving weight and perfecting the handling. Because japanese cars were restricted to the 280hp regulation they were forced to find other ways to make their cars faster, usually concentrating on handling and loosing weight. I personally give more credit to japanese car maker then american, not because I think american cars are inferior but because american cars focus (traditionally) has been different then what I want in a car. All that said, what I feel in my heart is german cars. I started out buying VW's instead of civics, M Coupe instead of a RX-7 and a 911 instead of a NSX. But I've learned there are great merits to japanese cars, its just a shame a lot of that scene is plagued with wannabes and boy racers.

you named 2 cars that have some potential...but still not coming close to any German or a Vette (old or new) or nice american muscle car. I rather drive a ratling american car than a brandnew japanese car...just don't like them, and I am not saying that they aren't great cars, just don't like them no soul!