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Replace 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards

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Most us 944 guys have successfully removed and replaced the 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards on our cars using a combination of heat, plastic scrapers, pink erasers, etc.

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Recommend paint/body shop

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I then took it to a recommended paint/body shop.

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Leading evidence: 'Replace 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Recommend paint/body shop' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace with good ppf

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I get them replaced with good PPF with decent protection.

PPF Issue

Recommend paint/body shop

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Suggestion

I then took it to a recommended paint/body shop.

PPF Issue

Replace both

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Suggestion · Original poster

They managed to match the (custom) color and replace both.

PPF Issue

Replace every 3

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The thing is, you guys have to understand something PPF is not meant to be on a car for 1015 or 20 years most PPS only last 3 to 5 years, especially if you’re in the sun if your car is always garage and hardly ever in the sun, then a PPF can last you 10 years I have an 09 911 and my PPF has been on for about seven years and it’s never had a problem it never yellow never cracked because my vehicle is garage kept if you’re in Vegas and you use it as a daily driver and it’s always outside under the sun that PPF should be changed every 3 to 5 years depending on the quality of the PPF

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Recommend paint/body shop

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Suggestion

I then took it to a recommended paint/body shop.

PPF Issue

Replace 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

Most us 944 guys have successfully removed and replaced the 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards on our cars using a combination of heat, plastic scrapers, pink erasers, etc.

PPF Issue

Replace both

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Suggestion · Original poster

They managed to match the (custom) color and replace both.

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Replace every 3

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Suggestion

The thing is, you guys have to understand something PPF is not meant to be on a car for 1015 or 20 years most PPS only last 3 to 5 years, especially if you’re in the sun if your car is always garage and hardly ever in the sun, then a PPF can last you 10 years I have an 09 911 and my PPF has been on for about seven years and it’s never had a problem it never yellow never cracked because my vehicle is garage kept if you’re in Vegas and you use it as a daily driver and it’s always outside under the sun that PPF should be changed every 3 to 5 years depending on the quality of the PPF

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Replace ppf (i only had it

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Suggestion · Original poster

There were no issues removing and replacing the PPF (I only had it on the front end and half the hood).

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Replace these, the paint came off

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Suggestion · Original poster

When replacing these, the paint came off on the drivers side.

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Replace with good ppf

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I get them replaced with good PPF with decent protection.

PPF Issue

Run vertically almost

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Suggestion · Original poster

Now I have a hairline crack running vertically almost to the roof.

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Use combination of heat, plastic scrapers, pink erasers, etc

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Suggestion

Most us 944 guys have successfully removed and replaced the 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards on our cars using a combination of heat, plastic scrapers, pink erasers, etc.

PPF Issue

Use steam gun and plastic razor blades

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Suggestion

If it was factory paint and a true ppf (not adhesive sticker), you should have a good chance of removing it using a steam gun and plastic razor blades.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The PPF (clear bra) on the front end has started to crack on my 2008 911. It lasted 17 years. The body shop I've been going to forever is warning me that removing the existing PPF my take the paint off due to the age of the PPF. Has anyone experienced this issue?

POST 2Original post

Yes. My 2006 Boxster had to be resprayed after having to "mechanically" remove the film and adhesive.

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Quotes source post: 50394

If it was factory paint and a true ppf (not adhesive sticker), you should have a good chance of removing it using a steam gun and plastic razor blades. If it's super cracked, it might take a long time. If it's been sitting in the sun in Vegas for the last 17 years, then it might be so backed on that it can't be removed safetly, but a good PPF guy can usually remove 'typical' old film without damaging the paint. The body shop may be less familiar with the removal process and/or are understandably worried about damaging the paint in the process and don't want to take on that risk. Have a picture of it?

POST 4Original post

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I wonder if that's just a time-is-money thing? Most us 944 guys have successfully removed and replaced the 30+year-old, wildly-cracked and baked-on clear stone guards on our cars using a combination of heat, plastic scrapers, pink erasers, etc. -- but it takes hours to do without damaging the paint. I could easily see a shop wanting no part of that -- especially since there are no guarantees the paint will be ok after spending 8+ hours working on it. In contrast, they sand and paint all day long so can estimate that with precision and get the work done with virtually no risk... Everything looks like a nail to a hammer...

POST 5Original post

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After following a few YouTube vids on how to remove the old plastic, I used steam, plastic razor blades, a variety of chemicals (there is an pro auto paint store down the road and they advised me). I managed to get the plastic off the metal surfaces but nothing removed the adhesive. I started working on the bumper cover and started peeling paint off. I then took it to a recommended paint/body shop. Couple years later when my clear stone guards turned black, I went back and had them removed and the rest of the car resprayed. This experience prevented me from doing PPF on the GTS 4.0 i bought a few years ago. But, this is me only. Everyone should take in all the inputs and make their own decisions.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks to all for the comments and advice. The car is garaged, only in the sun when I'm driving it. The body shop always calls in a PPF guy - they don't do this work themselves. We'll see how it goes.

POST 7Original post

How did this work out for you? About 6 years ago I went in to have some PPF applied to the front of the car, and as the shop was applying it, somehow they managed to remove the paint on both front fenders (it had adhered when it wasn't meant to). I don't know the whole story and mistakes happen, but it cost me about 2k to have the front end resprayed. Disappointing for sure, but I still love the car and, in a way, now I can drive stress-free as she is a virgin no more!

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I haven't addressed the issue yet - I've been traveling. I will follow up though.

POST 9Original post

The thing is, you guys have to understand something PPF is not meant to be on a car for 1015 or 20 years most PPS only last 3 to 5 years, especially if you’re in the sun if your car is always garage and hardly ever in the sun, then a PPF can last you 10 years I have an 09 911 and my PPF has been on for about seven years and it’s never had a problem it never yellow never cracked because my vehicle is garage kept if you’re in Vegas and you use it as a daily driver and it’s always outside under the sun that PPF should be changed every 3 to 5 years depending on the quality of the PPF

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I've finally been able to take the car in for service and PPF replacement. My dealer here in Houston took the car to "Gulf Coast Auto Shield". There were no issues removing and replacing the PPF (I only had it on the front end and half the hood). However, I did notice that the rock-chip guards in front of the back wheels were also cracking. I'm surprised at this because these were factory installed and I've never driven through a lot of gravel. When replacing these, the paint came off on the drivers side. They managed to match the (custom) color and replace both. The car looks great. Unfortunately on the way home someone kicked up a stone - hit the windshield at the lower left on the registration sticker. Now I have a hairline crack running vertically almost to the roof. At least it's not body work - LOL.

POST 11Original post

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The first thing I do on new Porsches is remove those factory paint guards on the qtr panels (cheap PPF) in front of the rear wheels. I get them replaced with good PPF with decent protection. Glad you were able to get it sorted to your satisfaction. I'm also dealing with a replacement windshield (Cayenne). Hugely expensive any more but what's worse is the mind-numbing process dealing with the insurance company these days. (They've farmed claim process to 3rd party admin. What a joke.)

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