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YOUR RESEARCHSluggish cranking during startup

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Replace positive cables

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I replaced the positive cables, which run from the battery in the back to the starter, then forward to the alternator, the ABS unit, and on via an engine bay jump post to the central electrics panel.

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Battery, starter, alternator all check OK.

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Use more interesting industrial-strength unit

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I use a more interesting industrial-strength unit from a NAPA store, one with a graduated float that gives actual density.

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Check ok

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Battery, starter, alternator all check OK.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Clean after i

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The floating-balls one is easier, faster, tells me what I need to know, and is much easier to clean after I use it.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Recommend large dose of penicillin

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For the person who has everything though, I still recommend a large dose of penicillin to start...

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Battery, starter, alternator all check OK.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Clean after i

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The floating-balls one is easier, faster, tells me what I need to know, and is much easier to clean after I use it.

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Recommend large dose of penicillin

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For the person who has everything though, I still recommend a large dose of penicillin to start...

Sluggish cranking during startup

Replace battery, since i’m not sure how old it is

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I’m thinking of just replacing the battery, since I’m not sure how old it is.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Replace positive cables

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I replaced the positive cables, which run from the battery in the back to the starter, then forward to the alternator, the ABS unit, and on via an engine bay jump post to the central electrics panel.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Run from the battery in the back

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I replaced the positive cables, which run from the battery in the back to the starter, then forward to the alternator, the ABS unit, and on via an engine bay jump post to the central electrics panel.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Test cable

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Suggestion · Original poster

Thanks for input.......probably will just do battery for overall health of electrical stuff, and then test the cable.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Test leads and a few meters, looking

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I ended up with long test leads and a few meters, looking for voltage drop in some of the primary cable sections.

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Test ok

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That said, I'd suspect the battery/alternator cables if the battery and alternator are testing ok.

Sluggish cranking during startup

Test with a meter while cranking it measured fine

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Mine 'looked' fine, and when testing with a meter while cranking it measured fine.

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I bought it for my 1999 911 cab when I had a slow crank when hot; however, the battery fixed it.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Engine turnover on cold start-up is very sluggish. Get WORSE after driving 30 minutes or more. Battery, starter, alternator all check OK. However battery shows 50% charged, and meter says “charge battery and retest.” I’m thinking of just replacing the battery, since I’m not sure how old it is. Any other ideas are welcomed.

POST 2Original post

Well, if you don't know the age of the battery, there's probably no harm in changing it. That said, I'd suspect the battery/alternator cables if the battery and alternator are testing ok. They are known to corrode on the inside and cause low voltage issues -- often starting ok when cold and getting worse as the car warms up. They look fine on the outside, but corrode inside so often go overlooked. https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/9 ... W5TbWTeKHe

POST 3Original post

I've got one of those I'm not using. I bought it for my 1999 911 cab when I had a slow crank when hot; however, the battery fixed it.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for input.......probably will just do battery for overall health of electrical stuff, and then test the cable.

POST 5Original post

Following on Tom's excellent guidance... My car suffered a gradual deterioration in starting. I travelled a lot for work, and while I was gone I left a maintainer plugged in. But if i drove it a bunch sometimes it would struggle cranking. Meter readings showed everything was OK as far as charging and voltage drop. I ended up with long test leads and a few meters, looking for voltage drop in some of the primary cable sections. I replaced the positive cables, which run from the battery in the back to the starter, then forward to the alternator, the ABS unit, and on via an engine bay jump post to the central electrics panel. All new. but still seemed to have trouble charging the battery. Scratched head where hair used to grow, but that didn't help. More research turned up a recommendation about the ground strap between the chassis and the battery. Mine 'looked' fine, and when testing with a meter while cranking it measured fine. I replaced it anyway, and the charging issues disappeared. Corrosion in the copper strap braid inside the protective shrink sleeve wasn't obvious until I cut it apart. Replacement is a tinned-copper braided strap, with shrink sleeve to protect it as it passes out of the box, past the spare wheel and cover, and finally to the rear apron and crossmember. It's the same spec that ABYC demands for on-board marine duty, but has a regular battery post clamp on one end. Marine installs always have lugs rather than clamps. Anyway, a 2ga-equivalent strap solved the problem. For your half-charged battery, connect a smart charger/maintainer directly to the battery posts, and see if it 'comes back'. Mine gets an annual test for specific gravity, usually a good indicator of slowly deteriorating batteries. A little floating-balls tester is under $5 at the local Wal-Mart. I use a more interesting industrial-strength unit from a NAPA store, one with a graduated float that gives actual density. The floating-balls one is easier, faster, tells me what I need to know, and is much easier to clean after I use it. Poor wiring, corrosion and connections force the alternator to work harder to charge the battery. Batteries really don't like to be anything short (sorry...) of full charge, so living with poor connections and corroded wires will cost you in both alternator and battery life. I ended up buying a couple dozen of those plated straps, and offered them to area owners when I held regular clinics at our home above Los Angeles. Great stocking stuffers or door prizes, in case you are looking for a thoughtful gift as the holiday season looms larger again. For the person who has everything though, I still recommend a large dose of penicillin to start...

POST 6Original post

My 2 cents...I had a similar issue a few years ago in my 997, but my battery was new and 100% good. I changed out the "Y" cable (starter/alternator cable) and also threw a new starter into the car as a "while I'm in there" measure. Dramatic result! My car now starts every time in about ½ second. I swear it fires up before the crank even has a chance to make a full rotation. I insulated the "Y" cable with a heat proof sheath off of Amazon in order to keep the heat away as well as NOT clipping it to the engine with the factory clips thereby leaving about 2 inches between the cable and the block, heat being the enemy of the "Y" cable. One other unrelated thing I did at the time was to ad a second ground strap from the engine to the body. The car has one on the right side, mine now also has one on the left side of the engine. As Dr. Bob has mentioned, having everything very well grounded is essential. Your electrons will thank you!

POST 7Original post

Same exact experience as @aboyandhisdog except I didn't add the second grounding strap -- not a bad idea, thanks!

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