Is much selling at the moment? 996 market

I’ve been watching the 996 market for a while on and off and cars don’t seem to be selling? This aero kit car looks really tidy, been on eBay about a month for £18.5 which I think is keen money, now been put on an auction with no bids ? Porsche 911 Carrera 4 (996) – Rare GT3 Aero Kit | Manual | ULEZ Approved | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Porsche 911 Carrera 4 (996) – Rare GT3 Aero Kit | Manual | ULEZ Approved at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us

I've seen that- looks decent. Would be on my list if looking. Really can't answer your question but it's something I'm interested to know too. I'm on the fence about selling mine (simply don't use it), but don't need the money and not desperate for it to sell... so if they aren't moving I'll just keep it for now.

Prices seem to be all over the place. I have a glance around from time to time and I've notice some have gone. The chap on here sold his tip turbo pretty quickly. I just know the market for mine is tiny though, but then it only requires one buyer.

Having recently purchased one, i can confirm the prices are all over the place but they sell when priced right. There are cars that are sitting for months, if its not selling its usually price related. Its the same with the Boxster market, people clinging to high prices and not selling. I priced mine what i thought was realistic and sold within 2 weeks. Saw one high miler that was listed at £9500 for a few weeks then got resisted at £12995, nothing changed - it was probably worth a look at 9 if the history stacked up, but not at 13. Prices for low mileage, low owner cars will always be stronger, but there appear to be others that are chancing it. There is so much info available online these days its easy to shortlist cars without seeing, but you need to have a good poke around. 1 I looked at with clean MOT had oil leaks, rusty cills and more paint than B&Q. Buyers have to be realistic as well.

Nobody will bid £15k until it's in it's final hour.

Oh yes i know im not expecting bids, The eBay thing is more showing you what’s happening with the car, if it was advertised fixed price 3.5k more but now seller is trying an auction listing to gain interest, it’s not selling.

My 996 took a while to sell. I had a few 'send pictures' kind of interest but the moment the sun began to shine I had more meaningful interest. The 996 is between 21 to 28 years old, what would you expect a car of that age and one that has probably had maybe 6-12+ owners to be like? So here is my opinion: The 996 should be treated like a classic car such as an MGB/Triumph TR 3/4/5/6. The renovation starts on the day you buy it and finishes on the day you sell it. It will not be perfect, in the case of the 996 you need to be handy with the spanners, own a scanner and be fully aware that there is likely to be some rust somewhere that will need your attention. All old cars need work. Those looking for the perfect car of this age are deluded, and wasting their time (and others). So buy a 996 only if you are competent at car maintenance and restoration because that is the profile/demographic of a new 996 owner. Just to add that there are some very nice cars out there. There must even be some that are so nice that they will never need any money spent on them. Yeah right!

I bought one recently and paid top money for a common colour. I thought it was worth getting one from a local specialist and I've been pretty happy. Its only broken down once in the first couple of hundred miles and its booked in for £1k of routine service and maintenance work in November! I could do the work myself but maybe a major service in the book will help keep its value plus it should highlight all the other non-routine items it needs.

Prices have really softened after the 'post COVID' years and I don't think sellers are being realistic with themselves IMO. Some probably bought at the peak and don't want to take a haircut. Ultimately if a car isn't selling it's cos it's too expensive!

Yes I agree things have definitely dropped off, personally I thought £18.5k seemed really reasonable for a manual aero kit car.

I think there's just more variation on condition and spec. That refurbed C4S for 70k for instance, that's a big ask at Covid pricing, it's just a clean bog standard car. Or Harry's RS recreation build, will be GT3 money without the badge, but worth the price to the right person. A Hartech 3.9 will command a bit more and rightly so. Is great to see more modified examples, especially if they're nicely done with an OEM plus usability. Stripped out track cars are a tough sell, even with a stack of cash spent on it. A fistful of receipts from a reputable outfit goes a long way on value for me.

As a matter of interest here,I have a fistful of invoices from a very reputable outfit and an engine which has just developed a ticking noise (not my 997 coupe i hasten to add)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (luck of the draw really).

Sold my 996 Turbo in 4ish weeks? Was extremely well sorted though compared to pretty much anything else for sale. Agree though, lots and lots still for sale even now. In my opinion i suspect a Turbo needs to be 20-25ish to get proper keen interest. Once they tip over that 30k mark they seem to struggle unless it's a very well sorted low mile car.

You only need to look on Autotrader or simlar and see the first listed date. Even the manuals are not selling. ... https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...el=911&postcode=I&transmission=Manual&fromsra Fairly sensible miles and money? Been for sale for 10 months... Then you have this with 20,000 more miles with rusty arches for £1500 more! IMO this should be a 27k car and the one above a 30k https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...l=911&postcode=IP&transmission=Manual&fromsra

That's unfortunate, even F1 cars breakdown though. I'm keeping mine at a sensible boost level, built or not, nothing is indestructible.

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Mine does not have a boost (unfortunately), and even if it did Mrs T would not allow me to use it!! PS. On the subject of the ticking noise, there is absolutely no difference in engine performance. Thus am very happy.

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I believe that his is a cat car just not listed

Oh really ? I haven’t hpi’d it, It doesn’t state that in the advert, yeah that would have a big effect

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Turbos seem to be massively undervalued for what they are dont you think ? I don’t have the budget for one but it would be my pick right now if I did ..

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I don't think so, that 25-35k bracket is pretty saturated i would say in terms of other offerings from various manufactures?

My thoughts on this subject in general, from decades of owning specialist or classic cars through a variety of economic environments is that there are a few common denominators that transcend the market. Good cars, and I mean REALLY good cars, (say the top 5-10%) will always sell if priced fairly, as the supply and demand for the highest quality and/or most desirable cars is not consistent with the middle market. Cars that hang around for ages that appear to be well priced on paper will have an issue, whether this be condition, specification, status of owners/miles, the way it drives or 'feels', history, paperwork, location, or seller attitude and approachability. There is a reason a well priced car sticks. There's always a reason. As good cars become fewer and fewer, their values tend to be more resilient to market fluctuations and it only takes a few really special cars to sell for an eyebrow raising price to convince the owners of mid-market cars to perceive that the market has shifted and that "if that car is worth 'x', then mine must be worth 'y' " etc. When these cars then fail to sell, the default position is to blame the market where 'nothing is selling'. The reality is that buyers aren't comfortable with the quality price ratio on offer. Just my two cents.

This could be interesting……. Bonhams Cars : 1963 Porsche 356B Super 90 Coupé Chassis no. 123765 • European-delivered example • Left-hand drive • Formerly part of an extensive private collection in Italy • Present ownership since 2016 One of the all-time great sports cars, the 356 was the work of Ferry Porsche, who had been inspired by the FIAT-based Cisitalias of Piero Dusio. Ferry's 356... cars.bonhams.com Same sale they have got a left hooker 997 turbo cab which also looks nice. Physically seen both cars and the 356 for the money would be my choice.

I think a lot of the issue is, to us who have experience with the brand or sports cars in general we become a bit softened to higher prices for parts and servicing. While some people that have only ever owned big standard cars would be afraid of running a Porsche. I think 996s a while ago were basically the 911 SC of the 00,s. The ones people didn’t want so they were very cheap. Now they’ve been discovered as good to drive a lot of people are struggling to get on board with some of the prices. I had a 70k mile .1 XAA Aerokit manual, it was lovely with some tasty upgrades. I sold a lot of bits off to get it more to standard spec after the second gear synchro started playing up. I’d already found another car I wanted so I discounted it a lot to account for a gearbox rebuild. Think I got £16500 for it in November. Black over black. I really think in current UK market it’s all a game of pot luck selling anything over £15k

3 for auction at hobbs parker this week (c4/c4s) Auction Catalogue www.hobbsparker.co.uk

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It reminds me of when I was looking for a nice 911SC when they were 10-15K (looked at plenty, all were dogs, just some shinier than others, but still all 50 shades of dog). In my head, that's about what they were worth, so say £25k-£30k now. The fact that they are now double this, makes them poor value to me. I love them, I lusted after one for years, I smile every time I see one, but I'd not pay £50k for one as it will still be a dog in disguise, with proper nice ones, and I mean PROPER nice onces north of £70k. I love them, but they're just not THAT good. A new entrant in the market might see them with a less biased opinion, without the prejudice of old school pricing and values, so would make a more objective assessment on the value proposition compared to comparable sports classics. But to me, even if I won the lottery, I just couldn't part with that kind of money for one. Maybe it's the same with the 996 and some people standing by the sub "£10k for a 996" concept, albeit not realising that these will have been dogs too, but now want a 'not dog' for low £teens. Best of luck. I stand by my previous comment though that a really good car will always sell if priced fairly. If someone asked me about buying a 996 and what to pay for a good'un, I'd say (based on my limited but recent experience) budget £20k. Of course a 'good'un' is subjective, but to me that is a pristine car with no visible rust, great paint, trim and interior, wheels and tyres, with everything working, needing little or no immediate spend, this side of 100k miles and thick folder of invoices and book full of stamps. On top of a sensible colour and interior combo. That's my 'good'un' anyway.

It’s been an enlightening experience for me so far, being my first Porsche and classic car too, I have to remind myself it’s a classic car because to me it’s really not that old ! I think of classic cars being MG B’s and Austin 7s! I suppose the classic thing then takes on a life of its own doesn’t it, it doesn’t make financial sense for any lay person to buy it, although I’m sure some do, get burnt and get out pretty quickly, they’ve long since moved on to the next modern thing. You now have a market of enthusiasts or speculators if something starts looking like a good investment. It’s essentially the amount of interest and most importantly solvency !! in the enthusiast market that then dictates where the cars go. Apologies I’m sure you already know all this I’m typing it for myself. To that end the 996 is a really interesting car to watch, it’s like it’s sitting in the waiting room, waiting to be called. Apart from the odd really unique beautiful condition car, like mr interference fit has managed to find, the majority need £10k minimum putting into them, double that if the engines toast, current values circa £10 - 12k minimum that car then owes you £30k, which you’d be lucky to get half back in today’s market, hence they sit there waiting, for the next Bert to plough his money and time into. And I suppose the buyer with £30k plus budget isn’t looking at 996 at all, they’ve got the £30k budget cars list to look at. And people with 10k to spend on a classic are focused on paying the mortgage right now ..

After restoration what is the value or looked at another way after restoration how long will you keep it or another view would be as one has restored it will the satisfaction achieved by the project outweigh the cost along the way leading to long term ownership as opposed to either the added value that the restoration has created or more likely the deficit. Its a bit of a meander but looking back to mine and friends restorations (very many) even from day one it was obvious that depending on how extensive a restoration of a vehicle was required one would not start with an MGB as one would lose ones shirt and trousers (thousands available and all very cheap in the first place) whereas a Triumph TR4/4a/6 would return a credit, a TR5 a profit, and joint equal for cost and final value an e type and an Austin Healey 3000 Bj7 and onwards. Thus some restorations are uneconomic but are carried out for a reason and very personal to the owner about to set sail on one. Is a 996 an economic restoration candidate? Leaving aside the engine issue if you can operate a set of spanners and are willing to attack rust then yes why not. Now look at the demographic for 996 ownership, would it be fair to say that a 996 is being bought for the 'I drive a Porsche' cachet or for the chap/non chap who just wants to get down and dirty with a project. This is why my friend restored a rubber bumper MGB but put a V8 in it and for the next 25 years and counting has won award after award and has just driven to darkest Italy and back in it. I agree with Bert if you see a 996 which needs £10K+ spending on it (obviously not doing the work here yourself) then one is looking at the wrong starting point and should put that £10k together with the initial stake into the next model up. But what if you only have the initial stake, and want to drive a Porsche?

The 996 is starting to be recognised as the drivers car it is. Well proportioned, mechanical and good balance of tech and analogue controls, just before the electronic gadgetry took over the range. Extremely reliable and comfortable for long journeys, bullet proof mezger if getting a turbo. Am Android auto headunit is all you need to keep it current. There's also a ton of stuff you can do if your an enthusiast, a well understood and researched platform, all the common faults identified with fixes and everything is upgradeable from full carbon interior, gearboxes, drive train, bolt ons, full engine rebuilds and big brakes.

what he said......!

These cars are old now, and condition varies immensely. They all look okay when polished up for the photos but under close inspection there is a huge variety. My car, for example, a manual C4S is advertised anywhere from 18k to 28k depending on condition, mileage and history. Condition is actually the most important but it's the most difficult attribute to determine remotely. Mine is nice, well optioned, and well maintained but would sell at the bottom of that price range due to the mileage of 148k. It wouldn't appeal to somebody who wants a low mileage 4S and looking to pay mid twenties, but would be more likely to attract somebody looking at a regular 996 price point in the high teens.

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That’s me at the end right there Martin, let’s see where we go from here ..

The beauty of the 996 at the moment - pretty much a car for every budget, owner type etc. Unless its a GT or turbo its highly unlikely to ever reach the prices of the air cooled cars or some of the newer models, but equally its unlikely to depreciate too far either. I prefer my cars to be daily drivers rather than garage queen's so mileage isn't an issue as long as its got the maintenance records to support it which is difficult to tell unless you are standing in front of it. After newer cars including newer boxsters the 996 is a perfect modern classic with just the right amount of tech and ability to do your own repairs /servicing without having to visit a garage every time. Its much more fun to drive them than look at them As much as i prefer OEM, its also great to see more and more owners modifying 996s, there are so e stunning looking cars out there.

Thought I'd look on AT just to see how high an asking price i could find for a non-GT/turbo/C4S 996 As much as I'd love to thi k this is the going rate, I imagine this may be for sale for a while at this price https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202304086097302?sort=price-desc&searchId=97ff68c6-0b5e-449a-ae1a-222f0dcd0fc9&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&model=911&page=7&postcode=RG22%205LS&year-from=1995&year-to=2004&fromsra

The more I learn about them the more it seems entirely reasonable a well sorted good spec example should be valued at £25k and above? Phil Raby ? Had a Vesuvius Grey C2 manual on display at the flat six show, the colour I wanted but couldn’t afford, advertised for £24995 Initially I thought that was too high but I’m starting to think that’s where they should be. Work backwards for high miles, odd spec, missing history, work that needs doing

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Perhaps he doesn’t want to move abroad.

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I remember saying that IB bumper cars will never be we wor Especially if you apply the logic of 'buy the best you can afford', based on working out what condition you want and what it would cost to get a typical car to that spec. Suddenly £25k seems very reasonable for a decent car.

I think the very best cars are already around the 25k + mark, although i haven't had one viewing for mine which is a tad over at 27k. I am not to bothered if it sells as i think the top spec and condition cars are heading into the 30's in the next couple of years.

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Agreed. If you look back historically, each generation of 911 eventually follows the previous. I remember when 964s were dirt cheap. I remember when 993s were £20k as far as the eye could see. If you follow the timing of car age and price rise, overlaid with the timing of newer 911 generations released to the market, there's a very consistent pattern. The 996 is locked and loaded.

I have mine because I always wanted a 911 and the air cooled cars were more than I was comfortable paying at the time I bought. It was on ebay but fairly local and I fell lucky on the condition / spec (not knowing this at the time). I had looked at a complete dog so knew it was reasonable. I’m now in a better position financially and could afford an air cooled, HOWEVER, I dont think adding another 40-50k to the pot is going to yield 40-50k worth of additional enjoyment over the 996. I’m sticking with mine. When people talk about these as investment cars and values, I always think about depreciation on new/normal cars. This can run into thousands per year and people are happy to lose the money but paying similar cash on maintaining something older, that will at least maintain its purchase price is untenable.

Spot on.

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It was first listed at £34,995 over 2 years ago which shows just how over-priced it is. A £2k reduction hasn't done anything. I'm not sure how 62k can be claimed as being "super low mileage".

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To be honest, I'm not seeing much value in that car at all. Cab, tip, it's low miles, but nothing to boast about, grey interior and a non hartech engine rebuild.

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The one problem I have with your theory is that numbers and rarity of air cooled are tiny compared to 996. You can see with 986 boxsters that keep heading down to the bottom and a really nice one can be bought cheaply! Personally I never can see 996's going up and a lot as they age going the other way!

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2 years ago!? Hopefully the move abroad isn’t hinging on its sale ?

Hi All Hopefully appropriate to the discussion. Could I ask if anyone knows anything about this car or the specialist? PM if preferred. It’s caught my eye and been thinking of getting back into a 996. Pardon our interruption... Many thanks.

I found this just googling them. For a dealer their prices (in general) look reasonable. J Thread 'Elmstone Classics, Canterbury - A positive review!' 7 Aug 2019 I wanted to highlight some positive experiences I have recently had with a Porsche dealer that seems little known in the Porsche fraternity. Google is definitely NOT your friend. Elmstone Classics offered me a very good part exchange price for my 996 c2 and their 996 turbo was fairly priced, and I did the deal about 6 weeks ago. Dan, the owner, drove the turbo to me (60 or so miles) and we swapped notes and paperwork in my lounge. He was VERY keen to see my c2 started from cold, which is fair enough, and he was very accomodating with arranging a PPI on the turbo with an independent garage... jboy Replies: 1 Forum: Independent Porsche Business REVIEWS

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2 years ago!? Hopefully the move abroad isn’t hinging on its sale ?

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There's scarcity in the range that adds value. X50 turbos seem to command a premium Early C2 with cable throttle I'm not sure if modified cars are really what people want, but I'd be asking 80k for my car.

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Singer seem to have made a good living out of modified cars - how long before they create a 996 based model? that will no doubt see a peak in interest

An RPM Technik CSR for sale, looks one of their lightly modded versions though. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2001-porsche-911-996-carrera-csr-3?_gl=1*1e2sdef*_up*MQ..*_gs*MQ..&gclid=Cj0KCQjwss3DBhC3ARIsALdgYxMY7FLUJMZJ0eStiUI-CUXAnZK0ENKWUrCXFE5u4vg3QKVIsq6RRZ0aAqqBEALw_wcB&gbraid=0AAAAACg127U8HoDLXLlD6A2HnVKunmHMA

Interesting, tiptronic. Looks nice, they seem to set them up with a nose down weight balance. The modified 3.4 engine description is a little misleading, i was intrigued to know what theyd done but it seems its an IMS and a deep sump? I suppose technically thats not standard ..

This 3.4 listed at reasonable money with Hartech rebuild, technically it was repaired by Hartech but the invoice reads supply with factory exchange bottom end, so that’ll be factory Porsche not one of their own blocks with modified liners. It says 2015, I don’t know when they started fitting their own modified liners ? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202507114391543?sort=price-asc&searchId=8f0fb5a6-3ec2-4e72-89bd-19372f047c85&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&model=911&page=9&postcode=Kt20%205aa&year-to=2025&fromsra

I think the 996 market will come good, but it’s a waiting game. The general economic uncertainty isn’t making people keen to splurge on a weekend toy right now but being patient, I agree that as with all 911’s ahead of the 996, the market will come to them. Yes, there’s a huge nostalgia to the air cooled versions but- and controversial opinion here- are any air cooled cars actually better than the 996 in terms of technology, safety, comfort? The 996 and 997 maintain the svelte 911 appeal and the 1990’s and early 2000’s are in my view, peak car before nanny state stuff started taking them over and diluting the driving experience. The main issue with the 996 is the sheer bloody number of them so I’d expect early cable throttles to react to any gaining market prices first, and then followed in suit by C4’s and the .2’s.

I didn't buy a 964 for it's safety or comfort! I bought it for the perfection of the original 911 bodyshell,the side profile of that rear window,that view down the front wings,it's size,the air cooled engine growl and smell.all the performance I will ever need on the road and also for the lack of technology. I do not want a computer controlling everything,I don't care if it's got apple I play or whatever because I want to listen to the engine! A bit of nostalgia aswell as when younger they were the unobtainable dream car for me!

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I personally know this car.... owned by a supplier and business associate...it's great value 996 that i actually put out on here a month or so ago.

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Is a fair point, however I would counter that due to the relatively high numbers produced and very low price point for some time, overlaid with the cost of an engine rebuild, many have been run into the ground and or broken for parts and will continue to be until they become economically viable to fully restore. This accelerates the demise in numbers as no other 911 has been used like a Mk4 Golf in all seasons for 100k+ miles for so long. I'd also propose that a 911 has it's very own cache that a Boxster will never have. The rusty wrecks and shoe-string maintained cars may not have such an optimistic fiscal medium term, but low miles, nice spec, nice condition cars without a list of excuses may find the market a more optimistic environment in the coming years. Time will tell. But, as is always the case, good car + fair price = sale. The longest I've ever had a hobby car up for sale in my life has been 4 weeks, from a 20+ list of brands, ages and price ranges.

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Agree entirely on this being the first 911 used as a daily for mundane reasons like anyone would’ve used a Golf. The market will come to them in time but I just enjoy my 996 and it’s far from being a garage queen. What’s the point of that?

Mark 4 golf made me laugh Going by the current sale adverts a huge number are Automatic, I don’t know the percentage of UK cars sold if maybe manual cars are rarer? I think I read the manual gearbox is popular with the kit car crowd too, GT40 I think ? I did some fag packet numbers on manual swapping a cheap car before I bought mine and it didn’t seem to make sense, hardest bit to find was the gearbox!

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Yes, the Porsche 911 transaxle, especially G50 onward is THE go to transmission for pretty much any high powered kit or specialist rear or mid engined car once you've detonated enough Renault, Scooby and Audi 'boxes which tend to soil themselves at much above 500 ft\lbs when driven/launched in anger on sticky tyres and prep'd tracks. Pretty much every Ultima ever built has one. They're also popular in drag racing as well as desert racing. Off the shelf, high torque capacity transaxles are very expensive from the likes of Ricardo, Quaife, Medeola and Albins etc, where you're generally talking between £10k and £20k+ for a unit, which seldom, if ever come up for sale used. Their only shortcoming is their weight.

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Poor experience with this chap, and I’ve heard of others since. I’d avoid.

996's still seem to remain a bargain but lots have fallen through the gaps and are in poor condition, even if they dont appear so. The 996 market seems an absolute minefield, as it was back when i was looking myself. I have quite a steady request of people asking me how much id want for my car if i was to sell it and i always say that it would take a chunk North of £30k in the moment, no one seems particularly surprised at the price but circumstances are never right at that time and if it came to it im unsure whether i'd even follow through. To stand back and look at the car and to recall the drives out in it, its such incredible value and this is the same for many a 996! The main one for sale at the moment that springs to mind is Mr Slippydiffs Zanzibar car, why that hasnt been snapped up boggles my mind when a crusty SC would be 20k more and be a worse car in every possible way. I'm very lucky and get to drive many a special Porsche (and other marques), covering varied mileage, some of these cars 10, 20 and even 30x the value of my 996, yet i never feel short changed getting back into it and more so it brings to light how good certain things are, namely the steering!

Just picked my 99 C4 up from MLR in Stoke and had a mooch around 25-30 911's of all kinds and had a good chat with Reece about the 996 and values. He echoes what's been said by many about condition rather than mileage. I've just clicked over 117k and she's in lovely condition if I do say so myself. They've got a lovely 2004 manual targa that's going through a mini restoration before selling.. the roof cost nearly £9k to repair, anway because she's not been driven much and allowed to sit in storage she requires many bushes etc to be replaced and the underside is generally tatty and in need of some love, time and money. We got onto the subject of what he would expect to pay for mine, should it be for sale and to my surprise he said £18-19k.....!!! We both agreed that yes you can buy one for £13k odd but you will have to definitely spend around £4-5k to get upto scratch. He sees plenty of 996's , some good and many bad so spending good money first time around seems to be the key. Like many have said on here...good cars sell and hold their value and I suppose the trick is to look at as many as you can and make the comparison. Also had a really good look over the red GT3 RS

At what price do they become breakers rather than fixers?

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I see engine lids with spoilers for thousands! I few years ago I dabbled in 80’s Raleigh 531 bikes. It was sad that you could treble / quadruple you’re money by selling off as parts. A Rapide, Clubman or Competition 12 are a thing of beauty!

Exchanged messages with the seller. Only the one liner done by Hartech. Good buy if you don't mind a Tip.

Having recently purchased my 996 for under £10k which has had over £16k in maintenance in the last 5 years i would hope that they still have a while yet before becoming breakers But then again i did buy the devil child of the 996 world, a C4 Cab tip, because that is what i wanted and i'm loving it

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The aerokit alone , assuming factory or dealer fit is worth more than half that £9000.

At the other end of the market there's an Ocean Jade just been listed for £30K. Came up on my search notifications as that was one of three colours I'd hunted for. TBF to the seller they don't come up often, but I really wonder what sort of interest there is considering the current slow market. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202507174580865?sort=relevance&searchId=bb123953-e02f-491c-9cd9-2aae5435d53a&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=996%20Carrera%202&make=Porsche&model=911&postcode=tw182hp&fromsra

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Fantastic advert to be fair and nice spec even though it's an acquired taste colour......running a little warm according to the temp gauge...?

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Wow that is a rare car, is it only me that struggles to read dealer sales pitch adverts like that full of flannel ?

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Absolutely I’ve been looking at them, circa £2k for a front bumper !? As others have said, Its seems quite likely cars like this will be broken to keep others alive.

This 996.1 at £29K.

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It's quite a feat to write so much waffle and yet give no mention of the basics like service history, mechanical/cosmetic work history, general condition, number of owners...

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A.I has a lot to answer for.

if you want a challenging colour combination on a 996, then i give you this one - cheaper than the £30k option https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202405199876216?sort=price-asc&searchId=6d217b5b-111a-45b0-8a77-baa056f1d889&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&model=911&postcode=tw182hp&fromsra I would have really liked the nephrite green interior in a black car, but thats a little too much even for me

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DAMN..................!!!!!!

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I get the impression that the dealer's hoping his reputation preceeds him and that alone will sell the car.

This car was advertised before but didn’t seem to sell? I don’t know if the owner is on here? With the history of works, rare speed yellow aero kit manual I would have thought that’s exactly the right money for the car. But I suppose if the market is being ultra picky it’s a C4 sunroof car? Pardon our interruption...

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That cars been advertised for over a year, I haven’t seen one in the flesh but in the pictures the greens don’t really compliment each other do they ?

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It's amazing what 100k could buy you in '98. I think this was peak ecstacy era, someone clearly off his tits at 4am with a Porsche brochure.

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...or his wife with the c/c

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Reminds me of the kiwi leather and phoenix yellow combo on E46 M3's, look okay to me on their own but too much when combined. The wheels and floormats are doing nothing to help that particular car's appearance IMO.

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Same money, C2 Aero with an Autofarm rebuild if that's the sort of thing you're looking for 1998 Porsche 911 Blue Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in... 1998 Porsche 911 Blue Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in Toddington, United Kingdom - For Sale | Car & Classic, £24,990 Cotswold Porsche... www.carandclassic.com

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That’s a challenging combo to like, and completely eradicated by the Tweety Pie car mat? Sacrilege!

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That's what i would be buying if in the market for one. Lovely that. Maybe spacers or a bit lower, but otherwise, perfect.

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The boys tell me you've got a particularly good one, and you're taking it to the right place to keep it that way, so there is every reason to think your car is only going to go up in price now, I think the bottom on these has come and gone, they might still be a tough sale just because there are still a few not so great ones out there at cheap prices but as you said a good one really will pay for itself in the long run and your car is apparently a good one that is expected to only increase in value from this point on. It's nice to hear blokes that know what they're talking about tell you that you've got a cracking car, I bet you drove away pretty happy. I've seen people having a tough time selling on some of the groups but as I said I think that's just because of volume and it takes someone with skill to know a good one from a bad one, so if people are doing PPIs yours will sell no problem against something a but rough, but I'd be keeping hold of it if I were you, as I said the lads know a good car when they see one and yours is worth holding onto until they start to gp up again, if you were thinking of ever selling.

Anyone looking for a car at the moment and sees this advert - please go in with eyes wide open and do a lot of checking. I looked at this before buying mine for a lot less than this new seller is asking

How much were they looking to get and all the work that states was done....is this after you viewed..?

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I was offered it for £11,500 and the only thing additional that has been done from that description is new tyres. All the other stuff quoted is from 3 or 4 years ago. The seller was located in West London when i saw it and was told that another buyer was coming the next day from up north if i didn't buy it. Some of those photos are from the original sellers ad, hence, the buyer beware warning and for anyone to go in with eyes wide open.

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Forgot to get the full details of the cars, the sold prices are now up. The C4S (120k miles) sold for £9k The C4 (i remember being lowish mileage) £11k

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Seems low for C4S tiptronic maybe ?

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Absolutely, unless it was sold with a known issue....the C4 was a few grand dearer which is odd.

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Probably not really relevant prices as auction sales, can have undisclosed issues, thats the chance a buyer takes. Good indicator of project or breaker prices, although it had 10 months mot.

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Thanks for sharing this, I've contacted the seller to see if he's interested in selling the plate and/or the wheels separately.

The C4S at 9k would likely have been a bore-scored car that still ran or other expensive repair scenario. Good running tiptronic cars get 15 plus at auction.

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Hi Folks, I thought I would register and join you ! I am on the Impact Bumpers Forum too. I have had 911's since 1983 so I know them pretty well ! The Yellow 996 c4 is my car, I have owned in for 8 years now. I have not really been in a rush to sell it hence it being advertised for ages. However talk about timewasters I have not had anyone ask to come and view the car all I get is what's your cheapest price, Several dealers and classic specialist have wanted it but not come up with a decent price. It is a strange market place at the moment though. It's a nice car Carrera Performance have done various jobs on it, Other than that I have done loads to it over the years. I also have a 911 Supersport and a 911SC

Thanks for joining in the conversation, great to hear from you. I watched your adverts for a while, saw them disappear and assumed it had sold. Was double my budget so didn’t waste your time. I took your car as a good benchmark for the 996 market, looks a good, honest, rare spec car, all the maintenance you’d want to see for about the right money, I was surprised it hadnt sold. Hence my thread on here .. It’s a funny time to be selling cars. I still think anyone serious would view it, has the world really moved so much online people don’t expect to do the leg work anymore?

I think the market is on a bit of down turn based on Collecting Cars auctions. To nice looking 996 Turbos, one failing to sell I think at roughly 27.5k and the other with a day left hovering at 23k https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-porsche-911-996-turbo-46 I'm on the hunt for one, but I am also wondering if it is worth waiting

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when do you stop waiting though? i work on the theory that life is too short and if you want to do something, do it while you can! Annoys the crap out of my wife when it comes to cars

I think it really depends on what you want to pay for one If you have a budget find yourself a nice car and snap it up even if you pay slightly more money if you are buying it for yourself to keep. A few years ago several people that I know where all looking for air cooled 3.2 Carrera cars, They all had reasonable budget at the time but then prices went through the roof almost overnight and guess what none of them managed to purchase a car and now none of them have a budget anywhere near to the Air cooled car prices. I don't think water cooled cars will reach air cooled car prices due to volumes of cars produced but a nice 996 or 997 is still a lovely car to have and will provide lots of fun, I have owned 12 911's over the years and out of them all I think the 996 is a very underrated car. I think that there are so many online actions nowadays that is actually part of the factor that is keeping prices slightly lower as there is always one or two 911's on any of the auction sites at any time.

Are you married to my wife? Its the old question of trying to catch a falling knife. I would be hoping to pull the trigger this side of Halloween. There's one I really like but it is in Northern Ireland which seems like a bit of a trek, but might be a fun adventure

The market is slow... So I sold my well sorted C4S Cab 3m ago, having dropped the price a couple of times (in the end as SOR through my local Porsche specialist, which was a relatively quick and hassle free experience), but in the 2m I had it previously listed on the usual websites just one email enquiry from a timewaster...on an informative Ad (I thought anyway) and also start of the summer so timing should have been about right I was tracking 10 other similar cars on Autotrader at the time of listing mine and 7 of them are still for sale, not all of which look overpriced from the ad details I think the private to private sales market on these cars is challenging atm...

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lets face it, forums and threads don't help any owner/seller of a 996 with all the doom and gloom - any prospective buyer is going to see that the IMS will explode as soon as you take it over 10mph, the bores will scope if you drive it over 2,000 rpm and if that doesn't get you, it will either rust away or cost you tens of thousands to keep it running for 3 weeks of the year. Must mean we're all missing a screw or three somewhere in the process for wanting to own and run them. On the plus side, it helped me get into a 911 at the budget i wanted, but if i ever want to sell, looks like i'll have to give it away with a box of cereal

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Funnily enough I was going to post exactly what you said with ref to IMS and bore scoring etc all of this receives bad press quite often from people that have probably never even owned a 911 of any kind, I can remember way back in the 80's with Air cooled cars it was always the chain tensioners will let go and bang will go your engine etc people always slating the old 915 gearbox which incidentally was fine for all of Porches Racing cars of that era ! The media and several specialist all used to slate the old 2.7 cars but now look at there prices they are quite often higher that a good 3.2 Carrera Most of it's all just hear say.

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I noticed on a couple of the 996 FB groups there is a specialist that likes to chip in on any post that even remotely mentions IMS to say it will implode immediately and the only answer is to fit one of their replacement IMS bearings

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Nice car in a great colour. Speed was one of the colours on my very short list of preferred colours. I ended up with Zanzibar. I don't think your price is OTT, as if you want a speed yellow aerokit car, how many others are for sale? There's a bum for every seat, and some seats just take more time to find the right bum. Unless you really need to sell, I'd just sit tight and let the market come to you.

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If this was manual it would be in my driveway right now, that colour combo is fantastically horrid and I want it!

I think a lot of it does come down to price, I sold my '05 996 C4S in polar silver over blue with 135k on a Hartech rebuilt engine recently for about £1000 under asking (24k) after 2 weeks, but when I eye up its replacement (ideally a .1 c2) I see much older cars, lower spec, similar miles and the same price if not more money! Take this for example, absolutely stunning but in my mind from watching the market this is an £18k car no? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/30640586...teid=0&campid=&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

Looks like a large premium being added for the aero kit

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If it was guards red with black it would be someone’s unicorn as it’s a non sunroof car with factory aero, cable and diff!! It’s pretty much my unicorn as I like high contrast interiors. Seller is open to offers and I think if it was being sold through a dealer it might be more money?

Cable, aero, LSD, non sunroof, FSH, MO30, split rims and factory wiper delete. Very sought after spec. I Bloody hate 996 coloured interiors, but I like coloured interiors. Black carpet, some carbon and silver, black door cards with red accents, black pillar trims, black dash top, red lower. I'm sure you could do something with it to make it less garish. I'd love to take that on.

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True it is a fantastic spec but a similar one sold from a dealer on eBay with ~60k a week or two ago for £25k - which made me think this was probably a sub 20k car

Another challenging colour combo... wood effect trim should not been seen in a 911 PORSCHE 911 (996) 3.6 CARRERA 4 TIPTRONIC COUPE 2001/51 | eBay UK 2001/51 Automatic. 64487 miles. We have also just had fitted the latest Pioneer Apple CarPlay System with DAB Radio. This car has just 5 owners from new with the last keeper since 2005. The condition of this car is also one of if not the cleanest 2001 996 we have seen. www.ebay.co.uk

Black cars lovely, wow what rare spec, just shows you what’s out there..

There isn't any real logic that I can add to pricing that makes it compute in my brain, it's just emotional stuff. It's insane that a 996 GT3RS can be £180k but a really nice and well looked after same year Carrera can be less than £20k quite easily. Both awesome cars but the pricing logic is mad. On a personal note (it's a 997 not a 996) but I have a 997 RS that cost seven times what my 997 C2S did and it's definitely not seven times as good. The scare stories have done a massive amount of damage and the lack of knowledge about who can fix it and what methods has compounded it. There are loads of threads to discuss this, so I won't do it here, but it's little short of vandalism. At the 911UK meeting today we were talking about the 996, there were some nice ones in attendance and in my opinion (I've made no secret of this) I think this era is peak Porsche 911, the 996/997 era. I'm an air-cooled guy but the volume and variety of the early water-cooled cars offers a huge variety of scope for choices. It's a good time for buyers but as Skoosh demonstrated with his, it's worth paying the extra for a good one, because it'll pay you back in spades and last significantly longer than a bad one, looked after properly it'll out live you.

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This one? You even get a wiper and sunroof! £27k Porsche 996 Carrera Aero-Kit Coupe, Manual, 67k miles, Schawrz / Savannah, FSH | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Porsche 996 Carrera Aero-Kit Coupe, Manual, 67k miles, Schawrz / Savannah, FSH at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us

Purely for discussion, what do you think of this ? Pardon our interruption...

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That’s the one! Another challenging colour combo but a lovely car all the same!

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Quite rare spoiler on that if it’s legit, tech-art I believe?

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Says it's aftermarket in the description As to the car...if a used car dealer with privileged access to parts and trade rates for labour deemed this too time-consuming to sort out, you'd have to be a retired mechanic with nought to do to tackle this one. He's not asking for little money either, even if this were to be restored to a high standard what would its value be after having its wings/sills replaced and colour matched (which will never be perfect). And the nail in the coffin is "various other ares will need treating renewing etc."

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I think we’re on the same page, this is a parts car now isn’t it. Advertised for almost 10k ? Does anyone know what sort of money they break for? I’m guessing somewhere near half that ..

Other end of the spectrum Not sure they put a 3.6 in a gen 1 ? Pardon our interruption...

This thread has got me looking at early carrera's now and once you start looking closely the market seems a lot smaller for decent cars that fit your taste/requirements. 300hp NA in a lightweight narrow body with analogue controls is a lovely prospect for a road car.

Tidy looking 996 C4S with IMS/RMS done at what appears to be a reasonable price Pardon our interruption...

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They didn't, however, all of my official Porsche invoices and records have mine down as a 3.6 and she's a 99..................

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I would be very very sceptical. Why would someone replace the IMS then trade the car less than 1,000 miles after? Either something else went horribly wrong, or the IMS invoice is forged to increase the value. I'm also turned off by the description, guy has spent around £200 in parts and maybe 2hrs labour to replace a coffin arm and a few bits and do an engine flush and chooses to make that a big deal, instead of, say, communicating the services and intervals. Also, came in as trade-in, sold as seen, but from a private seller on ebay (so no consumer rights). It just doesn't add up.

I came into the 996 4S market a couple of months ago thinking I’d find something pretty easily given the volume made, and how quickly I found the right car last time I purchased a 996 (a C2, C4 and a Turbo) but once you get into the market and get a little pedantic about “spec” - it’s amazing how quickly the market narrows to what has now become doom scrolling!

I'm roughly 3-4 months into my search. I also can't figure out which direction prices are going.

I’ve spent £8000 this year sorting out wear ‘n’ tear so hopefully upwards!

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Consumables and hoses type stuff? Or more permanent stuff?

Mainly consumables, I’ve lowered suspension, changed the exhaust & SSK in the past along with some other mods. Fuel rails, clutch & DMF, all difficult to reach brake lines /nipples, power steering hoses, crank sensor, RMS (IMS seal removed - dual row in perfect condition), Oil & all filters, ABS reluctor rings x2, window mech, coffin arms, track rod, drop links & geo, gearbox mount, AOS, oil cooler seals, Y-cable, Air con pipe over engine, wiring, coils, hoses/clips, filler tube, rattles & other things I’ve probably forgotten. I’ve owned the car over 10 years and wanted to do some future proofing @ 135,000m. When the engine came out for the fuel rails I was just so happy not to be doing it myself on the drive that I got carried away and got a load of other stuff sorted whilst they were in there. Drives beautify now, it’s my main car all year round and I wanted it to be reliable. It had a 3/4 respray a few years ago but is now acquiring more road rash, I don’t care as it just needs to get me from A to B and have fun whilst doing it. I’ve saved more than the labour rate doing the garden on my days off over the last 6 months which is more fun than being under an old car on axle stands on the drive in all weathers. It’s also meant that I’ve spent a lot more time riding my motorbikes.

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oops - took me 3 weeks to find mine - although to be fair i had a self-imposed budget and knew the primary aspects i wanted, much to the horror of the 'experts' - 996, convertible, tiptronic Was able to discount most cars through online research and a couple of messages until i got my 2 final candidates - looked at both on the same day and purchased 1 of them. I don't have the patience to keep looking, i love the hunt of finding a new car, but 3-4 weeks is usually my limit...

I suffer from acute analysis paralysis. I have one car very much targetted and in mind, but there's some negotiation to be done before any deal can be struck!

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Which model are you looking at ?

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I agree, if you want 2wd non sunroof manual the market isn’t actually that big ..

I bought my first Porsche earlier this year, a 996, I keep watching the market because I find it interesting. Others have said it before but I think maintenance is key, especially recent spend. It costs money to keep cars in good order and especially a 911. The 996 by now seems to have a well documented list of things that will need putting right, if no one else has looked at that list yet it’s gonna be down to you. Most of the cars I see advertised for 10k - 15k will quite easily eat that again to bring them up to spec, (less if your technical and can do it yourself) top values for non GT cars seem to be circa 25k 30k maybe certain spec mint cars. And I suppose there’s the problem, there just doesn’t seem enough demand for that model for the market to deem it worthwhile investing in them.

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increasingly a turbo.... it's the sensible option

The big question with the 15k C4S auto is, as mentioned above, why has it sat for so long? However, if it drives well and passes a borescope, it could be a good buy. However, it's sold as seen without any dealer comeback, so there will always be some risk as with a private sale.

...and why didn't they shut the doors properly before taking the pics...? Perhaps they don't shut..might be a good risk to take especially if they're prepared to let it undergo a proper ppi..

Advert Reduced from £25k https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202506143498977?sort=price-asc&searchId=626e9bfc-635a-4ed6-8b09-083741788ffe&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&model=911&page=20&postcode=KT20%205AA&fromsra

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Bought mine late last year, sight unseen from an auction site as it had no reserve and was under £10k before fees. Its an early C2 manual and I figured what could go wrong. Auction site description of "in good order" about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Have spent about £7-8k so far replacing all suspension components and replacing IMS. It now drives great though and at least I know these jobs have definitely been done as you mention!

Not sure what's going on, but the market is very slow. Perhaps there are deals to be done

I think this was listed at 22 a few weeks ago: 2003 Porsche 911 Black Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive i... 2003 Porsche 911 Black Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in Fareham, United Kingdom - For Sale | Car & Classic, £19,995 2003 C4S Manual in... www.carandclassic.com Markets might be high but I think people are afraid it's all going to crash...

I dont think that there are any buyers around. August is not a good time to sell, but actually a great time to buy.

I should have added that everyone is on holiday, after all it is peak season to get away so car buying is possibly at the bottom of everyones list.

I've bought cars late August early September having been scrolling the classifieds whilst on holiday. Doesn't feel like this market will pick up anytime soon though.

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I think the Red interior splits opinion

I was watching the Vesuvius Grey car because I thought it a really good example, theres very few early 3.4 2wd manual cars out there, this is a rare colour fairly low miles at a reputable dealer with warranty.

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Buyers have been on holiday all year

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It looks like it's been oiled or something , looks too shiny Mine has Boxster Red but it doesn't look like that.

There are a few videos of the vesuvius one on YouTube. Danstimelessclassics and forensiccardetailing channels.

Could this pistonheads auction be the cheapest if it sells? Pro’s - Manual, rare guards red. Con’s - Targa 2002 Porsche 911 Targa (996) - Page 1 - PistonHeads Auction Listings - PistonHeads UK

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It has a reserve for around 10K I guess looking at the counter. I don't know who would touch it with that service history, 2011->2013 20K miles with no service, then serviced 3 times in the last decade, with two of those stamps looking dodgy. And the interior, well...

If one was in the market for a low cost Porsche then this would be a good one to go for. I like the colour and a scrap value would be in the region of £6k so how much would you lose if things went awry? And if a modern engine cannot last 20k miles without being serviced then what has the world come to, I mean my 1952 MG TD had sight of the toolbox every month whether it needed it or not but my company Volvo............

doh - duplicate post of PhilC

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i wouldn't be overly concerned about a missing stamp 12 years ago, but the lack of any evidence of servicing since between 2018 and 2023 and nothing since is slightly more concerning - the car is obviously still going though, its a high mileage hero that is never going to command strong money - perfect for a daily or a track car. No one can see the mileage when you are driving it! As long as the targa roof is watertight when it breaks it could be a good entry level 911. No mention of the demon IMS/RMS being changed and 11 owners is not going to strengthen its value imho

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sounds like sensible advice - you would lose a lot more on a newer 911 in depreciation than you would on this one if it all went BANG!

If the interior wasn't the lufthansa grey I would be very tempted, it just... ruins it.

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easy enough to get a complete interior from a breakers for less than a grand - or respray the interior - always options!

Now you have me considering it....

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do it.... do it.....

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My eyes!!!!?y eyes!!!!!!!?

Not to beat a dead horse but really, just look at the stamps: - 2011 unrecognisable stamp - 2013 same unrecognisable stamp, same pen - 2014 & 2018 same pen and level of ink fade 4 years apart I might sound paranoid but from an owner that's willing to neglect their car so much, without invoices and a phone call to these garages, you couldn't convince me they actually happened. And don't get me wrong I don't have an issue with the auction format, I bought my 996 from Pistonheads in May for not much more money than the 10K reserve on this. But Pistonheads has absolutely no accountability if anything at all goes wrong, this is made clear in the T&C. Not even if the description is inaccurate.

That is what an auction is about, you bid what you think it is worth to you. But back to the red one. It is just an old high mileage car. Nothing more. If I was buying I would go see and if it was in good condition and fitted the bill I would buy it or walk away. If I was in the market for a 3 yr old car then my buying criteria would be different.

If you can make the trek to wherever the car is located within the 7 days the auction lasts then things change I agree. My comments were based on the scenario you bid without seeing it so have to rely on documentation a lot.

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Don't the distance selling regulations apply if you haven't seen it.

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No, you're buying from a private individual, pistonheads the company is only facilitating the P2P sale.

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Same as collecting cars - seen a few stories where the car was not as described and caused problems trying to get back out of it. Seems like these auction sites take no responsibility but are quick to take substantial fees

This did well. No Reserve: RWD-Converted 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Coupe 6-Speed Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: RWD-Converted 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Coupe 6-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #204,813. bringatrailer.com

Wow nice car but price seems crazy.

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There's a bum for every seat and the interior is lovely. Shame it's not Zanzibar....

That is nice, but again the hammer price seems high and the cosmetic mods may not be to everyone's taste. Importantly, they seem to be to its new owner's taste, and personally I like non-metallic greens on 911s (Irish green, signal green, ...). Everything seems to have been overhauled apart from the gearbox - maybe it was functioning perfectly. Suspension rebuild - check, full respray - check, interior retrim - check (but is the dashboard extended leather, it looks very grainy?), engine rebuild - check (oversize IMS bearing always good but a stock short block has been used - subject to debate but more durable solutions may be available...). I am sure the new owner will be very happy and I am definitely not complaining about seeing a 996 make good money .

In terms of production numbers sent over to the US does anyone know how scarce they are over there..? That may come in to it.

I can't find the numbers but the US has always been a strong market for Porsche and the 911, probably at that time either the largest or second largest by sales globally, and 175k 996s were manufactured during its production run. Prices seem to start at $12k and lots available, so scarcity of the 996 is not a factor.

I had another look at the interior. Definitely not the extended leather dashboard or door cards (which were standard in Europe?) since there is no stitching on the binnacle or doors. I am being picky but non-OEM wiper blades as well . Take the fancy paintwork away and apart from the freshness, it becomes quite ordinary to my eyes. If I was parting with that cash I would want it to be absolutely top notch spec. At least I learned today what a non-extended leather interior looks like!

For that money I'd want that fancy single din porsche headhunt with car play!

I’ve never seen that dash board either. Cup holder in non glove box gen 1, maybe in the US? Wow this is 911 nerding on another level

Strange that it's got drinks holders too.

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It looks like a load of 996.2 parts have been retrofitted - bonnet and engine compartment levers or it was one of the last of the 996.1s. Being the US, I don't know if integrated cup holders were always standard on the 996.1 for "cultural reasons" . I didn't think the horseshoe looked right either. Enjoying the 996 nerding. As always, Euro-spec wins.

When i worked for a vw group manufacturer parts supplier there was often 2 options of US or ROW spec parts, a lot were obscure parts which I couldn’t fathom the need for a difference.

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Not sure what the final price is yet? Thought it was sold at 8277, now it could be 11200 or 12034? Didn’t think it would get to £12k, maybe prices are on the up?

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11200 payable to owner + the rest is Pistonhead's commission.

Budget friendly alternative to a GT3 ? Don’t know if the heavy track use puts most buyers off ? 2002 Porsche 911 Black Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive i... 2002 Porsche 911 Black Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in Fetcham, UK, United Kingdom - For Sale | Car & Classic, £30,000 Specifications... www.carandclassic.com

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As the owner of another high mileage hero 996 I’m pleasantly surprised at the final price

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Maybe it's just me, but I'd always feel someone loaned me their car in this, it'd never feel mine, if that makes sense.

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Why would it be different to any other used car? Once you've tweaked it and driven it a bit, I bet it would feel just the same.

Very low miles. Carpets look light grey? With black interior? Is this something Porsche did later on? It says factory aero kit but the front bumper looks standard to me? Could you get just side skirts and that smaller spoiler on gen 2? PORSCHE 911 996..2002..GENUINE.34.000 MILES IMS UPGRADE..FSH..FACTORY AERO KIT | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for PORSCHE 911 996..2002..GENUINE.34.000 MILES IMS UPGRADE..FSH..FACTORY AERO KIT at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us

Still deciding what I think of this Pardon our interruption...

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My guess is that left the factory with a grey interior and without an Aerokit. In an attempt to sex it up they’ve found some gen 1 sill covers (maybe off a breaker, where the front bumper wouldn’t fit) and a gen 2 wing and recoloured the leather. Half-arsed. OR. It’s had a front end remodel and they didn’t want to pay for an Aerokit apron. Either way, it’s dodgy.

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Somethings a miss isn’t it.

Add to that the 6 mot failures for pretty serious stuff just reinforces that this aint as good as the seller makes out........... always makes me laugh when folk try to make a purse from a pigs ear...surely they will realise that any serious buyer will do it's due diligence when looking to be a performance car, or any car for that matter.

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These kind of photos on adverts look like they would do numbers of instagram but if im spending £28k on a used car, I want to have close ups and details not artsy angles

Nothing amiss just from that, my .2 is the same, factory aero skirts and spoiler, can tell by looking at the option codes as well.

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Oh right, so you could have .2 like this from the factory? what option codes are they on the sticker ? They don’t offer front bumper on .2 ? Does yours have grey carpet aswell? I assumed it would be black .. I looked at a CAT D car last year like this, I wondered if the skirts and spoiler were added after the accident. It was a bit of a mess and the guy wanted too much for it.

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Full aero kit is XAA. Mine is XAG (spoiler) + X76, I assume the car in the ad is the same. Would I advertise mine as "factory aero kit"? Debatable. Is it dodgy by itself, not really. Someone might be able to correct me on this, but my understanding is that the .2 standard front bumper looks 95% the same as the .1 aero bumper, while the .2 aero bumper, which is the 996.2 GT3 one, looks quite different https://www.porscheclubgb.com/legacy/clientftp/Register/996/faq_tequipment_2003.pdf As you can see, they didn't really offer an "aero kit" for the 996.2, only the "aero kit cup II" which is the GT3 look with the more aggressive spoiler. This is different to 996.1 where they offered an "aero kit Carrera". So at the time if you wanted something like the 996.1 aerokit look, you could only take options XAG+X76 for spoiler+skirts and stick to the 996.2 front bumper. I don't know how much money Porsche was asking for the aero front bumper, perhaps smart money at the time shied away from it as it was expensive even back then to replace if you damaged it? Or it had to be specially ordered with a long delivery date, it's certainly rare. I don't have grey carpet thank god, that looks awful. If you ask me, I'd prefer skirts that were added somewhat recently, as they are a known problematic spot for corrosion underneath etc. so the newer the better, with the big caveat that perhaps they were added to hide corrosion.

Oh wow thanks for the brochure link ! I’ll read that later ..

Not sure I totally follow you above, the .1 aero to me looks a lot thicker deeper chinned for want of better words The .2 generally looks more shark nosed to me, the gills intakes are sort of flared outwards If I’ve got the right person think @scottos ? Has the .2 kit on his very rare x51 car.

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One can certainly tell the difference if looking at them side by side, you are right, but still quite close, personally I prefer the more slender and sculpted look of the .2 . The GT3 front bumper is even more beatiful to my eyes but rare and, honestly, not a fan of the aggressive spoiler that came with the Aerokit Cup II.

I would like to get .1 aero front and sides for my car, probably going to be GRP replicas with my budget.

Going off topic a bit, lots of bore score questions on the forum. Does anyone know if a Hartech block is stamped/marked in some way? If you’re looking at a car and you’re told it’s been Hartech repaired is there a way to check ? Paperwork could be fudged Assuming you could call them and check the invoice but imagine they’d probably get a bit fed up with that?

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I believe you can contact Hartech and they'll tell you what works been carried out on the car

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Hey, yeh thats me, its got the gt3 aero kit with the proper gt3 spoiler, not the more shallow 'aero kit' one. The boot lid has the air intake and fan set up for the carrera, rather than being exactly the same as the gt3 one. It also has the gt3 front bumper and with it having the x51 kit and the aero kit, it got the gt3 triple radiator set up as well (unlike x51 anniversary cars/ none aero x51 cars) It really is my perfect 996 now ive fettled it, albeit, its not been cheap. Its a similarly developed car to the one for 30k on the previous page, except ive made it to be my ultimate road focused 996, rather than track. Ive been on many a drive out/ road trip with newer GT cars and it can stick with them no problem, but then ill often be much more comfortable in between foot down sections. The fact id be lucky to see £35k for it at a mega push really shows what a bargain a good 996 still is! I feel very lucky to have been in a position to buy it when it popped up. There was a 4 year gap in its service history and I think this put the anoraks off, their loss! 20250413_183705 by Scott Osborne , on Flickr 20250427_142611 by Scott Osborne , on Flickr 20250427_142651 by Scott Osborne , on Flickr

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Looks like a stunner! I know what you mean about the anoraks - in an ideal world we would all like a fully stamped and documented history, but having a gap 10 years ago really doesn’t make any difference if you have evidence of recent work and history - you are buying the car sat in front of you at the time, not the one from 10 years ago!

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There can’t be many left the factory like that ? What a great find, looks lovely !

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Exactly this, i went to view it and it presented so well and it fired up instantly and sounded great, I didnt even get a PPI on it (maybe a bit silly in hindsight but I just went with my gut) Ive done all the engine/ gearbox oils since and had them analysed and they are perfect (I know it doesnt tell all but is a nice indicator) Autofarm built the engine back in 2014 and it got nearly all new bits and a very large bill

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Thank you and I wouldn't have thought so, the specification on the whole is pretty silly, lucky lad to snap it up at the time as i say! Some say i should've left it standard but with the gap in history and self servicing I knew the jury was out with the anoraks/ polishers anyway. I posted a thread a couple of months ago with a full list of work in my ownership and it surprised me how far id gone but it really is a wonderful thing now and ive managed to keep it sensible, much to my own surprise (no bucket seats, no roll cage, havent made it too stiff or noisy) 20250411_124737 by Scott Osborne , on Flickr

Yes I read that, it’s great to read other people’s experiences, it helps shape what you do with your own car. Curious How much extra power was the x51 was supposed to give it?

Great car Scottos...Exactly the sort of thing I'm after...Currently deliberating between a fairly stock car with a Hartech 3.7 vs watching the auction on the CSR. Both have pros and cons.. I don't like the idea of buying from auction really.. If you happen to stumble across another cracker please drop me a line!

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I think they said 345 with the kit. It seems to have a lot more mid range on it though and the last 1000 revs it kicks again, rather than being flat all the way through, if feels great from the drivers seat. Ive had a couple of pulls with a friend in a 981 GT4 and theres nothing in it. Its got the 2.5" sports cat X-pipe on it and the lightweight flywheel so it just sounds really sharp and it feels more than its supposed numbers, if that makes sense?

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Thanks mate, appreciate it! The CSR cars seem great, especially if you're not the one that spent the money on the conversion and buy it already done! Ill keep an eye out as well, always watching them!

Early cable throttle car non sunroof manual sports seats and it says LSD Pardon our interruption...

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Complete blank canvas for someone

Did we get that interior colour option in the UK? Pardon our interruption...

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Yeah that looks like it might be a really good one and all for £16k I'd be very tempted with that if I didn't have one already.

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It makes sense this should become a sort after car, if online stats are correct it’s 100kg lighter than a GT3 RS, no driver aids throttle cable it’s about as analogue as they get. I personally think the shapes aging really well, looks wise it doesn’t jump out at you but I was at the forum meet recently and found it really refreshing to see how lovely standard air cooled cars looked with chrome bits, standard ride height , 15 inch fuchs maybe these will do the same in time.

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That's the spec to seek out on a 996 IMO; early C2, non-sunroof, non-aero, not even door speakers or door airbags. Nice light 17s and the sports pack just add to the purity. If it's sorted that will be a joy to drive.

That's mine apart from it does have a sunroof which I really like. It's got 17" Cup2 wheels from a 993 on it and very , very little stuff inside. ABS as the only driver aid. It's a totally different drive to the Turbo but I enjoy them both just the same.

Punchy pricing here

I have just bought what appears a good 996 for £13k with 102k and the most incredible service history with heavy expenditure. The car presents really well and it was from a very reputable dealer with 12 months warranty.

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Congrats! Sounds like a stonking deal. Got any specs, pics or link to an advert?

13k and from a dealer! Is this the new norm price wise then?

Oh no, I paid loads more for mine in spring, didn’t get 12 months warranty either 72k miles, manual 3.4

Sounds like a bargain if it's as good as it looks paper.. What's people's take on "top money" for a 996 currently? I'm looking at C2 manual cars with high end suspension mods, capacity increases, rare specs etc in mint condition. I know that's a broad church but my take is 22k - 33k? I appreciate mods don't always bring extra value but I know that a good clean standard car can be anything up to low twenties so adding trick stuff thereafter can easily take you into mid thirties..Thoughts?

I think it would take something special to break a £30k ceiling at the moment but the criteria you listed are rare and desirable so your range looks about right.

If i was to sell my 99 C4 now i'd be asking in the region of £18-20k.

Is this a market correction?

I need to qualify my purchase as I think this is about the bottom of the market for something that looks tidy. It has 102k, had a new engine at 40k and then the IMS done at 75k again, so not matching numbers. Lots and lots of bills, the expenditure is mind blowing. The gearbox transmission is a tiny bit noisy but not having driven another I have nothing to compare it to. I think the market is £15-17.5k for good lower mileage cars. I did read a buyers guide and it warned me off low mileage cars with little use as everything needs to exercised regularly and up to temperature. My limit was £14k anyway and this was from a very ruputable Classic Dealer. It is bog standard, no computer or memory electric seats, upholstery is good but a little baggy and it looks lived in. I did see an auction result 996 C4 last night which came through at 8.5k and that gave me a fright. However it had 112K and was really quite rusty and will certainly need a lot spent on it. Here are some pictures of my car, so far so good.

That’s a difficult question Edmundo, I suppose that is why I started this thread. I watched lots of what I thought were good cars for reasonable money go unsold on internet adverts and I was trying to understand what was happening. The main thing I’d underestimated was quite how much people were paying in garage bills, it seems most cars out there for sale will eat 10k quite easily on normal serviceable items, suspension, clutch, oil leaks, brake pipes, steering rack, bushes, electrical faults, air con problems, lots more if you’ve got rust or engine problems. Add a few upgrades, wheel refurbs etc the car then owes people double what they bought it for and they’re unlikely to get that back. Once you understand that about them they start to look quite different as a proposition. I now find it easy to justify a well specd mechanically sorted car being easily worth £25k plus but initially I couldn’t, and I don’t think many people do, hence they sit. I also look at some things and can’t see it going anywhere but the breakers

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Looks nice Phil, love the colour, I wanted a blue one but couldn’t find the right car. If you’re not technical it’s well worth getting it into a specialist to see where you are with it. Im with you on the service history, it is mind blowing what’s been spent on them to get them this far. Sobering thought It’s over to you now

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Congrats on the purchase. Your engine mounts might need doing judging by the tailpipes.

Thank you all. David’s the engine mounts were done in 2022. That’s a Mytek exhaust so maybe sitting different to an original item.

Enjoy it mate...the C4 is a cracking car....!!!

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What year is she..... do you know why a new engine was required..?

In my opinion the market is pretty much the same as it was 3 years ago. C4 cars are always cheaper than the C2 cars. I sold a 112k miles C2 3.5 years ago at 13.5k. It was a nice car with a recent 5k spend on it. I could still find a similar car to that today. At the top end i have one of the best spec and condition cars in the country slightly north of 25k with 42k miles on the clock that hasn't had a viewing since i listed it for sale over a year ago.! I continue to enjoy driving it. Funny market.

Remember the GT3 used the C4 shell due to it being more rigid. If you want a C2 from a C4 simply take out the front dif.

Indeed, but it's still a C4. Remember the early non sunroof C2 is lighter than a GT3.

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Hi Skoosh, I am not sure. The car was AFN Porsche new and then serviced at H.R. Owen. It was doing 11k a year for a few years then boom! The engine change was at a Porsche dealer and it says the bill picked up at the 'Centre', rather than the Customer so under warranty. I don't know the exact reason. Interestingly the mileage is all over the place, maximum of 11k and then 300 miles one year quite recently. It has done 5k over the last 5 years.

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What year was she built..?

She is a T reg 1999 car. April.

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Regarded by many to be one of the more reliable years of production for the 996 due to the steel liners and dual row IMS.

That's good to know! I contacted JZM at Kings Langley as it is near work and will maybe get a few jobs done. I need two front tyres, the hand brake adjusted, brake fluid change, and the spark plugs checked. I guess I will be in for £500 ish for this lot. They said about doing a 3 hour check for a fee, it would be good to do it but the colour will probably drain out of my face if it's bad news. I don't have unlimited amounts of money to throw at the car. I will probable get the tyres done with Black Circles. PS5s are £120 each but are on an offer at £20 off. I could alternatively go for Conti Sport 7s at £110 each.

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No steel liners Isn't it some form of Nikasil coating on the pistons?

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What now?

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It's an Iron coating on the early 3.4's

Apologies, see above.

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I'm a recent purchaser of a 996 at the lower end of the market price wise. Similar to you, my car has had a significant spend on it by the previous owner - i calculated around £16k in the last 5 years. So far all i've needed to do is an oil and filters service which i did myself and a replacement brake line on the caliper that split. I'm working in the basis that its never going to be a worth a fortune, its a daily driver and if it all goes bang, i would probably sell as is as a new engine wouldn't be worth it in a 25 year old 996. The problem with Porsches of this age is that all the internet stories make you paranoid they will all explode at any moment I wouldn't be keen on a 3hr "check" that you have to pay for - they are highly unlikely to come back and tell you its all good, its in their interests to find a long list of work you need to have done to keep them in business.

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"£500 ish" - You'll be lucky. ps. There's no point checking the spark plugs. For the cost of the actual parts it would make sense to change them considering the labour involved in getting to them.

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...all depends who the " specialist " is........... The 1st service i had under my stewardship was at MLR ... full service, all fluids and spark plugs. I asked them to have a thorough look over her and advise what needed doing and all they said was, besides being complimentary was that i'd probably want to CONSIDER the brake pipes in the next 2-3 years....as a precaution. Bearing in mind this was the 1st time i'd ever visited them so it's not always the case.

Thank you T8 and Skoosh. The rear brake lines have been done, I still have more bills to read so will check for the fronts. There are so many bills!

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Oooooo Go straight on? What's the widths and offsets etc?

Sorry I have hi-jacked your 'Is Much Selling...' thread Pernicketybery.... Bad form, I will start another! Thank you for your advice folks.

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Yes, I realise that they are job creating at my expense as the 3hr check is £300 + VAT. They are in business but I guess they will scare the life out of me..... In the the mean time and after 5 days someone has hit the front of the car on my drive, just nudged it and the paint has split on the front chin. The car is parked quite a way back. We have lots of delivery drivers who use my drive and next doors for 3 point turns.... It hasn't been parked on the road so far so it must have been done here. I wish I had a Ring doorbell now.....

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Fronts 55 7 Rears 55 9 I think they look perfect with no spacers just bolted straight on.

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Ok so basically the same as the standard 996 17 inchers.

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I've had a similar issue - someone reversed into the front of mine too - put a 3 inch crease just above the number plate, broke the number plate plinth and cracked the paint - looking at options for mobile dent repair as its probably not worth putting through the insurance

There is a great Guy I know in Surrey, saved my old Golf GTD rear bumper and matched the silver metallic perfectly. £150 or so. He heat gunned out some quite nasty distortion….

Check if your neighbours do... that's really shite news pal.

35k!

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Much of that value might be in the roof rack, they’re so hard to find these days

Those wheels warrant an Interpol warrant across Europe, he's lucky he didn't get pinched crossing the channel

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Don’t worry at all, its all car nerds chatting cars I honestly pay no attention to that sort of thing .. Think we ascertained a while ago, the right things are selling … if the right person turns up

Anyone feeling brave on thus cheap GT3? Headlight fitment is a highlight Facebook www.facebook.com

That's tragic. I wonder what his home DIY is like. Reminds me of one of the wife's friends; her husband had the edge of their flooring gaffer taped to the floor and cut around the door skirting with what appeared to be an axe.

I see your GT3 and raise you a GT3RS ! Pardon our interruption...

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Bonnet panel gaps had a disagreement and went their separate ways

I can’t help but think of the time and money that goes into to doing this, surely you’d just swap it for a 997 ? Anyway it takes all sorts .. Pardon our interruption...

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If I had to pick a highlight it would be the self tappers and washers holding the headlights in ..

" A man's got to know his limitations" Clint Eastwood

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I’m guessing some conversion kits are cheaper/ readily available when repairing a crash damaged car. (Theres a guy on youtube doing a 987.2 cayman at the moment who bemoans the lack of second hand panels to repair his copart purchase, he appeared to have done zero research before purchasing )

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That rear end is awful. The lengths people will go to remove the fried eggs!

Very Early car .. If the AC just needs regassing why not regas it and when someone comes to buy it you can say the AC works, nice box tick. ? Anyway .. 1997 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 3.4 manual coupe | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 1997 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 3.4 manual coupe at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us

The air ride being taken off the show car, good choice by the seller. Looks a very nice car for someone Pardon our interruption...

Another one worth investigating, spoilt for choice this week Pardon our interruption...

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That car was the subject of a Becky Evans review

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Well spotted! 2 years ago, I don’t think prices have really moved much Id like to see Harry Metcalf in one..

Look at it this way chaps..... the more of these available the more our decent 996's will increase in value. I don't think i'd have the nerve to even try to sell one nevermind buy one.

Nice guards red car on FB. Pricey though. Facebook www.facebook.com

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Lovely mileage and nice colour. If it's a minter that doesn't need much or any spend, it doesn't feel too far out of bed.

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Aweful advert but lovely colour, nice miles. You can soon drop £5k as we all aware as soon as you buy, paying for one that’s had everything done would be my preference if buying again so value needs to be dependent on that.

Nice Turbo up for sale on PH, I am considering bidding. It was on the listing for 32k but didn't move....

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From Ireland so will have been run on 95 all it's life, is that OK for the carrera?

This one sold on CC last night. Given it is basically the identical car to mine, all the way down to the interior, mileage etc (other than mine is 1 prev owner) I find the price a depressingly low! The buyer would have got out £17,750 to drive that away after fees. Seems like great value to me (but it would wouldn't it..!) https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2004-porsche-911-996-carrera-4s-24

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that looks like a steal. Gorgeous car.

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There’s some deals to be had right now it seems

If you don't 'need' to sell, might as well hang on at the moment.

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Possibly in part to the ridiculous fascination we have in the UK market that cars with over 100k are worth considerably less. Looks like a good buy for someone

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Hmmm optimistic .. How exactly do you ‘strengthen the sills ‘ ?

Pardon our interruption... They’ve reduced the price on this by 5.5k . . At least the advert has the right engine size now

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fill them full of concrete.....

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I missed the end of the auction - did it sell? It had got to £25k 40 minutes before the end.

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didn't meet reserve. it's at 25k

387,000 miles anyone https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202510097024904?sort=price-asc&twcs=true&searchId=beffd790-5842-49f1-914c-596019f3c96d&make=Porsche&model=911&page=1&postcode=Kt205aa&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra&backLinkQueryParams=channel%3Dcars%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26postcode%3DKt205aa%26sort%3Dprice-asc%26flrfc%3D1

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thats awesome

Looks a bit rotten

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patina.....

Blimey....needs a little bodywork

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Its probably due another engine rebuild too ! Hats off though, great to see it’s been used and enjoyed ..

Here's an interesting one - I know its a turbo and all that, and it's does have stupidly low miles, but would you actually buy it and drive it? No service for the first 4 years, virtually no use yet still managed to squeeze in an MOT failure, and then not serviced in the last 10 years. Guessing it will need a pretty hefty recommissioning before being able to drive it again? Probably destined to be an unused trinket in a car collection somewhere do we think? https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2005-porsche-911-996-turbo-s-14

It’s an ornament now Isn’t it. Still fascinating where these things come from ..

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It's not just a turbo, it's a turbo S of which less than 1600 were produced so it's probably destined to be in someone else's collection. The value will be in it's rarity and the low mileage. If mileage is put on it the value will fall dramatically. I can see why a collector would pay the 'S' premium but can't see why they would want to drive it.

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surely a collector would want a better service record than it has currently? I don't get it - but then i don't have the money to hoard such cars so that may be the reason

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I suspect the next collector will be like the previous owner and not worry about MOTs or servicing. If the car's only going to be standing still it won't need either.

Doesn't really need servicing if it's sat in a good environment , even for 10yrs. I would say the running the engine up to temp 3 or 4 times a year should be enough, the oil won't degrade much at all. Obviously if it's going to be driven and I doubt it will , it'd need checking over but driving it will soon reveal any issues once you've done brake fluid and oil. Mine was in a collection for 10yrs (8k miles on it) and it's been very reliable in the 8k miles i've done inc a trip to Sweden last year. It's just metal and oil really , the hoses on mine look and feel like 2yr old. I think it might touch £70k as it's a manual and an S.

Is yours convertible Monty ?

Coupe

Have a look at this... https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/auctions/2728-01-Nov-2025/12174~1-2000-porsche-911-(996)-c2 Just doesn't look right, especially the difference in where the rear wheels sit inside the arches comparing side to side. Drivers side looks too far back. They have a Turbo in the auction too.

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looks like its been lowered? - cat S, no service history is not going to help it, but looks clean enough to take a punt at 5-6k

interesting, scrap / parts value has to be 5ish ? great base for a track car ..

As long as the structural damage was fixed properly and it can get a good alignment on all four wheels. I always think it will be weaker no matter what.

Nothing a good pull on the jig and full cage couldn’t sort I’m sure, it’s going over the barrier at the Nurburgring anyway I’m bursting to build an RSR replica, just a small matter of the funds holding back proceedings ..

This 95k mile manual C4S just sold for £16600: Lot 38 - 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Lot 38 - 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S auctions.wbandsons.com

Quite rare in guards Red https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202508135382248?sort=price-asc&sort=price-asc&searchId=54afdf20-7cd4-440f-803f-b89e6c9ad95b&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&make=Porsche&model=911&model=911&page=19&postcode=Kt205aa&fromsra&backLinkQueryParams=advertising-location%3Dat_cars%26backLinkQueryParams%3Dchannel%253Dcars%26expired-ad%3Dtrue%26flrfc%3D1%26make%3DPorsche%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26model%3D911%26page%3D23%26postcode%3DKt205aa%26searchId%3Dbeffd790-5842-49f1-914c-596019f3c96d%26sort%3Dprice-asc%26sort%3Dprice-asc%26twcs%3Dtrue

Aero kit cars suddenly seem hard to find ?

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guessing a lot of cars are now tucked up in garages for the winter?

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Service history doesn't seem right, only 8 stamps? It will likely have the usual issues too at that price

C4S Safari anyone ? Doesn’t tell you much about what they did but you can buy a lifestyle apparently.. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202510036866959?sort=price-desc&searchId=30341e2c-f08e-4235-a70e-919355d9ac14&make=Porsche&model=911&page=1&postcode=Kt205aa&year-from=2000&year-to=2004&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra&backLinkQueryParams=channel%3Dcars%26flrfc%3D1%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26postcode%3DKt205aa%26sort%3Dprice-desc%26year-from%3D2000%26year-to%3D2004

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I can't see where they've added £110k worth of extras to that car. The new 'off road' character has hardly been tested given that the car has only done 500 miles in the last 7 years.

This 996.2 has surfaced again - it was listed last year when i started my search but had a few too many red flags for my liking. No mention of service history or any of the usual jobs having being done PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 2 3.6 996.2 M96 AUTO 2002 TIPTRONIC S CABRIOLET TLC ULEZ PET | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 2 3.6 996.2 M96 AUTO 2002 TIPTRONIC S CABRIOLET TLC ULEZ PET at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! www.ebay.co.uk

Love the 2-tone exterior

This looks decent. 99 with cable throttle. Facebook www.facebook.com

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Doesn't feel unreasonable.

I think we might start to see more of this kind of thing ? £25k makes perfect sense to me .. Be interesting to see if it sells or if people still think it’s a £15k car ..

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Those that do, will not see the value in the aero, the miles and any other attributes that make it stand out. Those that want a nice, low miles aero will likely appreciate and value it's relative rarity. There's a bum for every seat as the saying goes.

If that car was for sale at that price when i was looking for a special spec aero car back in Feb '24 then i'd have happily paid around that price for it.

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Me too.

A nice one has turned up at Paul Stephens with low miles

Rhubarb and custard 996

Nice clean low mileage example - but no price

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This YouTuber bought the high mileage versuvio 996.

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That picture doesn’t look right - AI touch up - how can you have the plastic bumper rusted through?

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I think the bumper bit is a reflection of a shrub, but could be wrong.

Was this the doctor's 996 recently discussed on here...?

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lol - perhaps it better than I thought…

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I believe so. All the money has been spent on maintenance, so whilst it's cosmetically rough, it's a decent car underneath and on reflection the mileage and story make it interesting in it's own right.

Be a great story to interview the guy who owned it. The chassis rust is a worry, going to be expensive to put right, I always think if you can see it that bad on the surface how deep does it go into the structure? Personally I think it’s a shame to mess about aero kit colour changing it as the guys suggesting ..

That's what I thought , the corrosion was really bad at the rear of the sills and those rear arches ! It'll make great YT content though and that's his job so it's a winner in that respect. The mileage is irrelevant mechanically but it's also a big win for YT hits being the highest mileage 996 in the UK.

I just watched the video, this should be a fun journey! Also, a 996.1 aero kit for £500? I know its mates rates, but still. Shows how much Porsche tax we pay

It'll be interesting to see what this goes for..guesses anyone? https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-porsche-911-996-carrera-13

Based on rise in popularity I’d guess around 50k. I can see more people (outside of real enthusiasts) are starting to take the 996 seriously and are putting money into them. For example: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202510036866959?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios-app

18 years between services! Still get the "has the IMS been changed and has it been borescoped" questions

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I wonder if it will be another collaboration with yorkshire car restoration? So he wont actually pay for it? But the videos will show just how much goes into it ( although damo has already shown us all that here )

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Lovely, however we might need to refer to VAR for a 'clean-off'. I feel challenged.

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So a complete service history then. A bunch of invoices? Well there's one for a yearly service by OPC in 2004 for £237 Or perhaps there's this more comprehensive one: If all else fails in the car trader world offload it on the Emperor's New Clothes of auction sites for a risk free no comeback sale

This looks an interesting colour combination…. Pardon our interruption...

Wow I bet the supplying dealer asked for a very large deposit!!

I really like the green not so keen on yellow though. If it only needs a cylinder head you'd just get it fixed i 'd suspect something a tad worse.

I love unusual colours but I've never liked Nephrite green. Easy fix if it is just a cracked head.

Not a great colour combo and alarm bells ringing with the old photos and laid up for an unknown time. Seems expensive to me considering a new engine is needed

Norwich city fan would love it

A base dot 1 Carrera in Speed Yellow over Nephrite??? That's cooler than a very rare cool thing.

I really like that Nephrite Green but not in a yellow car! I'm looking for a sorted corrosion free 996.1 C4 coupe with sunroof at the moment as they have begun to pique my interest.

Only good thing about nephrite leather is it's easy to dye black. All the coloured interiors would be fine if porsche used accents instead of one colour, especially on the carpets which look shabby after a few years.

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...i know where there might be one of these for sale possibly.

Black steering wheel, centre console and carpet mats make a big difference to a coloured interior. I absolutely loved the carrera red interior in my prefious boxster S.

The low mileage Blue one on CC is still at £20K with 3 hours to go. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-porsche-911-996-carrera-13

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Does it come complete with the Ford Puma mats i wonder........... looks like it needs a topup of coolant and god knows how many £££££££ to get upto spec with the mileage being so low............ does look lovely though.

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you do get a diamond "1" stuck to the dash though

Yeah , wtf was that?

the tyres are from 02 yes 20 odd years old and some kerbing on the rims so that's a few quid to start with.

US market focused but perhaps still of interest to some fellow 996 geeks enthusiasts on here

thanks for sharing - really interesting, especially the part about the higher mileage cars - good for owners like me.

Nothing more liberating than adding more miles to one that's already passed the 100K mile mark.

Indeed, think i may hit 120k this month

Might be going a bit snooker loopy for me - should hit 147k

My observation, be interesting to know your experience: I don’t see many Hartech engined cars for sale, Hartech are very busy repairing engines daily so where do these cars go? Once the owners done the engine do they keep it? The few I do see with Hartech engine, often 997, there doesn’t seem to be huge premium on price for the fact it has one?

If i was going to spend around £12k on a hartech rebuild i'f certainly be keeping it. Luckily i own a 99 so dual row IMS and steel liners so i;m pretty safe and at 120k miles i'm pretty sure the IMS is good for another 120k..... touches wood and hides.

I have had my 2004 C2 up for sale for a four week weeks (as I fancied a change, so I thought ). After receiving a couple of very low offers and being messed about by potential purchasers, I have this afternoon decided to keep the car. I provided as much information as I could and it was a well worded advertisement but all I attracted was time wasters. Frustrating, but in the end I am very happy with my decision Thank goodness it did not sell - never been so pleased not to have sold a car

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Options wise those cars are most desirable here in the UK too They appear to be more valuable stateside according to his figures ..

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Mirrors my experience earlier this year. Had another wobble a few weeks ago when i seen a 981 spyder at RPM, ideal spec so i could forgive the highish asking price. P’ex for mine was “around £6k”, i just couldn’t do it. Keeping it till its scrapped now.

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Yeah the UK market seems similar. At least that means those of us happy with a poverty spec higher mileage, non aero car still have a cheap route of entry to what is a great platform. With the current slow market and economic backdrop it looks like there'll be bargains to be had for a while yet.

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6k Ouch .. I suppose they can only offer what they’re likely to see back but still.. Quite eye opening about where we are with them right now ..

@Phil 6K is extremely harsh -have you tried WBAC ?

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Don't....even more depressing.

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Yes I just crossed that threshold too. Personally can't think of anything worse than having a 996 I was too worried to drive... one of the reasons I do all the mechanical works but don't really stress about a couple of minor paint blemishes and stone chips. If I forked out for a full glass out respray and it came back perfect, I don't think I would enjoy those summer blasts through the Oxfordshire country roads so much!

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£5125, then knock it down on the day as usual. I just couldn’t get my head around financing a 981 spyder that would be 20 years old when finance paid off, verses my current paid for 22 year old 911. I’d be in for £80k on one, and still be terrified of using it vs. Using it whenever without a care and value not even registering with me. Both would/is an event to drive for me, so head rules heart and just get on with enjoying the 911.

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I did an almost identical calculation based on a 996 GT3, up for £72K so I'd be all in for around £80K. They are more exhilerating to drive on track or the right road, my first ever Porsche drive was a 996 GT3 at a track day, but would the overall ownership experience be 4 x that of the Carrera that owes me less than a quarter of the GT3 outlay...? For my use case I think I'll continue to get more enjoyment from the base Carrera, it's already over 120K miles, I'm enjoying making it my own and no fretting about its value.

Crikey! 6k, that's a 964 moment in 15 years.

It is thought provoking for sure. £6k feels outrageous. Makes me start to wonder if they are worth the not insignificant spend every year to keep on top of things… But then you drive them and everything is good again.

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Very wise I'd say. In a way those valuations have done you a favour. Why not look at spending a few quid on the 911 to improve an area that needs it ?

For me the value of them is just a number that dictates whether I’m able to own one or not, I certainly didn’t buy mine as some sort of speculative investment, I bought mine to drive and enjoy while I’m still on this earth. That said I’m no millionaire so if the @&£! hit the fan it would be handy to know it’s worth something if I desperately needed it, might be cheaper to bury me in it if things stay like they are you’d need to dig quite a big hole ? I’ve still seen none for sale with Hartech Engine ..

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They are generally good value when they do come up. Owners certainly don't seem to recoup the spend of the rebuild. This one with the 3.7 conversion was up for £17K in the summer https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1895660 It didn't hang around.

Upcoming pistonheads auction starting soon, location might be a factor for some, but could give an insight into current value for a car similar to most (slightly below average mileage maybe) Check out this auction on PistonHeads! Porsche 911 Carrera [996] Year: 2000 View details: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/19468766

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not surprising though - older 911's are not in their desired resale stock so would probably get punted straight to auction no matter how clean/good it was, so they base their offer on the worst case scenario. Even worse, i would bet all the paperwork gets chucked as well under GDPR so any future owner of cars that go this way loses out on all the history

Is that right I hadn't thought of that, they don’t give service history because of gdpr?

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that looks nice car £17k with a Hartech engine lovely !

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Nothing that has previous owners details on it

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It must be reassuring buying a car direct from the owner that had a Hartech rebuild done. Here's one being sold from 10 year ownership by the owner who had the rebuild done. Again an asking price of £17K, so you've got to absolutley love the thing to pull the trigger on the rebuild.

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That cars been advertised a long time, if you look at the paperwork it was rebuilt by Hartech BUT using a genuine Porsche block not their nickosil cylinders

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I know the owner of this car personally, he's a friend and business associate.... it's a lovely 996.

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Yeah I remember you saying, it looks a nice car at what you’d think was the right money.

I'm not amiss in saying this but he'd agreed a deal with Phil Raby but hasn't the time to get it down to him to confirm the condition and price agreed.

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I totally agree, it’s all very well having 500hp, but a standard 996 will probably be more fun on UK roads. Case in point, I have an SL55 (for 5 years now) and I got bored of it because it’s just no good on UK roads - you run out of road too quickly if you put your foot down and there’s very few opportunities to put your foot down anyway. And as I paid “only” £13k for my 996 complete with patina, I can enjoy it and not worry about spoiling immaculate bodywork etc. I intend using mine alot and all year round.

That's the beauty of a well worn 996, 300hp and little if any depreciation and you're spot on about 500hp SL55 , so few places apart from Germany when it's worth having over a V6 350.

I thought my 63s was about perfect with 500hp, though the wifes car with 320hp is perfect to, but it's much lighter. Neither require remaps.

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What a gem ..those photos must be professional ££ No need to clean it For sale with Sarah Rusty Rust

Oh that’s funny, looks like they got their neighbour across the road to take the pictures

That's got to be a contender for best car ad ever. 10 word description and a pic taken from next door's bedroom window?!

Love a 2 tone 911.

I'm looking at buying a R8 at the moment and some of the adverts, including from traders, make you wonder if they're really trying to sell the car. "I know you told me to get rid of the car, look, its on FaceBay but its really weird, no-one has contacted me about it. No idea why....". No details, no service history given, rubbish descriptions and poor photos. And a stupid price.

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keep us posted on how you get on - an R8 is on my watch list, along with a Vantage - seem to be able to get either for around 30-35k - just working on budget approval from the CFO

more red flags than a chinese new year celebration, but not often you see a white 996 2001 Porsche 911 2dr Tiptronic S CONVERTIBLE Petrol Automatic | eBay UK MOT until August 2026, small amount of history and paperwork included. Exterior presents well but does show signs of age and previous work. Interior is in average condition but could be brought back to being very presentable with minimal work. www.ebay.co.uk

Skips are miles cheaper...................................!!!!!!!

£20k airfix kit anyone? Shouldn’t take you long, I’m assuming most of the bits are in the frunk ?

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Where’s your sense of adventure?

Hi So, I guess this is the right place to post for this rather than the one i started about my brothers recently crashed into 996....... His car is a very well kept 120k mile 2002 996 Tip slate grey with black leather interior. Has had a suspension refresh and lots of other work done. recently including the rads and expansion tank. Aircon rad changed and works. The insurance company understandably want to write it off, what would be a realistic offer for the car? Also we fully rebuilt the engine from Hartech machined cases, all 6 cyl with reconditioned pistons. Parts came to 8k alone as a min on top of the machining cos so much was changed. The insurance company don't know about the rebuilt engine just that it runs well. Obviously we are going to buy back the car in order to keep the engine. Thoughts please Berni

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Probably nothing happening to next year. I'm tempted by a V10 though. Definitely a supercar, potentialy less issues than the V8, the noise! More money though, which is the down side.

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My thoughts: You should have used guaranteed value insurance . Everyone with niche cars like this should.

Hi yes, agree. I think what happened was that his existing insurer refused cover because he had 997 seats, non standard twist wheels and LED rear lights. They cited the modifications as the reason. So he went with Admiral and was just lazy about it.

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Be careful. I saw a YouTube clip at RE Performance where a lad took his newly bought R8 to Ricky at RE to see what the weird clanking noise was and it turned out the chassis was split, the car was a total write-off. His channel is good actually, lots of good tips for the R8/Huracan, it seems a great many are clocked as well because it's so easy. I went looking for one earlier in the year, but those cars seem to attract a type of owner that put me off, I bought a GT3RS instead.

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Missed the end, but doesn’t look like it made reserve, i seen a bid of £14k with 3 hours to go.

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This highlights perfectly that long term ownership is no guarantee of good service history and overall condition. Considering it was a father and son job the gaps in the servicing - 2011 to 2018 and then ??? is somewhat surprising. It piqued my interest albeit I've not been looking in earnest. Had I got more time I would have been tempted to taked this on for just shy of £12k. Lot's of good history and jobs done by specialists as I suspect the owner was not favourable to jumping on the tools other than embellishing the dash with an interesting Porsche script. I'd perhaps leave the 'decorative' interior Porsche script and running lights with the seller albeit I know @jonttt would be interested

The auction thing isn’t for me but it seems popular now, Why doesn’t it show the sale price? I saw it at 14k bid, assume there’s fees on top ? Only had a Quick Look, wheels dirty & chipped rims, cheaper brand tyres different front to rear, car generally looked tired to me. It’s the kind of car that you could see it in person and find it’s been painted on every corner or it might be very honest, I don’t know how people buy online ..

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I think it didn’t meet reserve when the price isn’t shown. I’d agree with the photos/perceived condition of the car, i’d assumed it was offered for sale long before the “last chance” attempt of an auction, and found no takers for the price offered at in relation to condition.

It sold for less than £12k. ( The grey / savannah one )

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Yeah, I saw that. He hadn't got the car inspected and bought a "bargain" that turned out to be anything but. Dropping £50k on a car, I'd definitely be getting it inspected, either at REP or an Audi garage that are experienced in the R8. Apparently its eally easy to clock them too. You can spot it easily if you've got the right software.

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I think I'd do what Jonttt did and only buy from a main dealer, you've got a much better chance of not getting rinsed. I'm still after a Sterrato, but I don't have the confidence to drop quarter of a million at anywhere other than a main dealer, even these cars with a few hundred miles could be clocked, crashed and ripped around a field with a mileage blocker on.

not sure if this had been posted yet. Loving the colour and if I had the cash i would be vert temped https://www.paul-stephens.com/sales...zaTwgYxfysPsifArRU_aem_ZR0j0uP_WVzsW-I6c2VEmA

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Main dealer, lol. A very well known and respected garage owner had his (high preformance coupe) serviced and they didn't tighten his oil pan bolt, engine was making some very strange noises by the time he got back with a trail of oil following the car. He got the car collected and his money back. Car was back up for sale the next day.

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They're crap for servicing, some 18yr old apprentice will end up doing it, my car is gong back tomorrow to get the bits fixed that the main dealer broke when they were fixing other bits, the list of what wasn't working when it came back is so farcical that I bet no one would believe me, (e.g. went in for a water pump and they broke the Appleplay radio, straight up and that's just part of it) so I know exactly what you mean, but if I'm buying a new Sterrato with delivery miles on it then I'd want the guarantee of a main Lamborghini dealer so I have total comeback if it turns out to be clocked and I've parted with 250 large - or maybe a very reputable Indy like RE but I don't think they sell nearly new Sterratos. After the sale I'd go to RE for everything, but to purchase a new car or with delivery miles then it's a main dealer, any R8/Huracan derivative has to be one of the most abused and clocked cars on the planet, they invite owners of a certain type who are suspect to say the least.

Just reminded me, I had my Impreza serviced back in the day by a main dealer, I drove home (lucky about 2 miles max) and could hear a wheel bearing whining, then I checked the dipstick - not a drop of oil in it, they'd forgotten to put oil back in. They recovered it, put oil in and told me they'd replaced the bearing, then on my first drive out afterwards the wheel bearing blew out, big clouds of white smoke where they'd packed it with grease instead of changing the bearing thinking they'd get away with it. That main dealer is now a Lidl. I had to get them extend my warranty based on them not putting oil in it and letting me drive away, but I never had an issue with that and soon swapped it for Civic Type R.

not a 996 but for some reason i like it! Probably going to hell for this, and not just for the number plate, but something alluring about being able to smoke around in this with 90% of the looks, 25% of the cost and probably 10% of the usual worries..... Its a good job santa has cleared me out this month Facebook www.facebook.com

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Maybe the pictures make it look better than it actually is, but that looks alright for a very obvious and cheap copy, I bet a lot of people would walk past that thinking it was a real Porsche. The rear spoiler rubber looks real and that's a grand on its own.

erm - "interesting" description for this one - not seen many 996's showing this much visible rust Porsche 911 Carrera 996 1998 3.4 Petrol | eBay UK Located in Peterborough. Have you seen my rear wheel arches?. Now these really do show age. Soooo. www.ebay.co.uk

I don’t think i’d stay friends if i had bought this from a mate

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state of the tyres !

what advertising platform(s) are folk having success selling 996's with at the moment? I was thinking of selling mine at some point next year, but fate has forced my hand (lost my job just over a week ago) so will definitely have to sell in Jan or Feb to free up funds :-(

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FB marketplace gets a big audience for no cost, but also increases the ratio of muppets. Ebay, AT and Carandclassic i've had success with in the past, gumtree very hit and miss, seems to be better for cheap stuff

Didn't do much ready as there are loads of words. Seemed a fair price: 2001 Porsche 996 911 3.6L Turbo Manual For Sale By Auctio... Highly maintained low mileage 996 Turbo Full service history to November 2025 by main dealers and specialists Comprehensive suspension ov... www.carandclassic.com Second look turbo's don't look too bad, not sure what is going on with the oil tank pipe though:

Seamless conversion of a targa into a coupe....

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That looks good but the undercarriage needs a clean.

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Just why! So many cheap coupes to use rather than reskinning the roof. Can only think that they smashed the old one or something.

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And that someone stepped back and said "looks good"

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I’ve seen some shoddy plastering jobs before, but that’s worse even than my attempts - too much EasyFill.

Tidy low mileage https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202506053181281?sort=price-asc&searchId=dfc386f1-7d98-4903-a886-62ec4852b3ba&make=Porsche&model=911&page=15&postcode=Kt205aa&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra&backLinkQueryParams=channel%3Dcars%26flrfc%3D1%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26page%3D19%26postcode%3DKt205aa%26sort%3Dprice-asc

Ticks a few boxes with the paperwork

And it’s still got it’s umbrella! Not everyone’s favourite colour and im not sure theyre making that money atm .. nice survivor though

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I've the same car I wonder if you or someone else can help me . I just gone to start my car ,the battery is fine but the key won't turn in the ignition any ideas please .I haven't used the car recently until this cold weather. Cheers mick

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Read here Mick - might be the steering lock. Wiggle the steering wheel and the key as you try to turn it!

A nice looking example up for £25K, strong money but these guys sell enough of them to know what's achievable. Used 1998 PORSCHE 911 for sale Check out this Porsche 911 996 Carrera Manual - Full Suspension Overhaul for sale on PistonHeads. Get in touch for more information or to take a test drive today! www.pistonheads.com I noticed this one sold for £17.5K (incl fees) at the weekend. Wonder if the new owner's on here? Seems like good value. 2000 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (996) Manual for sale by auction Check out this 2000 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (996) Manual auction on PistonHeads. Stop dreaming. Start driving. www.pistonheads.com

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interesting that neither of those 2 ads mention the IMS being replaced, something that seems to usually be the first question asked on any sale. The black one looks lovely

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IMS isn't a problem on the early cars - dual row!

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2000 is supposedly a cross over year if you believe the internet so no guarantee

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Indeed, but they make a point of emphasising it's an early 1998 car so it most likely is! I had a mid 99 car and I was never sure what one was on mine ... At any rate, looks like a good car with all the suspension stuff done but they have cheaped out on the exhaust at that price. I put the Top Gear "mild sports" on mine and it sounded rubbish compared to the factory one that came off it TBH. Might be better with the new manifolds ...

FYI my November 2000 C2 has a dual row IMSB so they must have had stock left over.

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It's got to be well worth that, i wonder what it will be worth in say 10 years.

£1050

What’s this leather colour anyone? Is it special order or something? 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 3.6 Convertible Convertible Petrol Automatic | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 3.6 Convertible Convertible Petrol Automatic at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us

Might be Cinnamon

I really like it - very classic Porsche!

Actually seeing on my desktop I think it's Boxster Red but the camera and sunlight have changed it slightly

Definitely Boxster Red. The description is a bit lacking in detail with regard to the presence of potential corrosion. If there wasn’t any (relative to age) you’d expect that to be highlighted as a selling point?

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I’ve seen it once before but never in the flesh, is it part of a special wishes type order I wonder? Don’t know if it was possible to do that sort of thing in 996 days ?

Cheap car even with the work required. Scrappy could buy that for a profit Log in to Facebook Log in to Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family and people you know. www.facebook.com

Isn't it called cinnamon...defo not Boxster red.

Whats going on with the hardrop? Do we think this is only good for spares, or could it be viably saved? Pardon our interruption...

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Good for storing tools and a lawnmower...??

If it’s rot free and you’re able to work on it yourself to keep costs down maybe a nice project for someone? Realistically cars like this dont make much financial sense saving ..

This looks good but price vs milage mite put some off. its had all the good bits done by the sounds of it Link not working so copy and paste from advert below but to sumerise, Hartech 3.9, 10,000 miles ago, 154,000 miles £35k HI thank you for stopping by, this is an advert for my 996 C2 Aero. It has 2 very special differences that make this no ordinary C2. It has the Hartech 3.9 conversion completed in 2020, this has had the rebuild due to light bore scoring but really due to crank bearing wear as this car has been driven and enjoyed. I am happy for any prospective purchaser to come and read through the comprehensive build sheets and photo's outlining all of the work needed, some of the main points were: oil cooler expansion tank Manifold studs extracting breather pipes cooling pipes in Hartechs' own words this is one the cars they enjoyed to do as it was a strong car to start with and the power gains were very impressive, aswell as the torque this has added to the gains. the car was then mapped by chip wizards and dyno tested to 375bhp (dyno report attached). to achieve this the car needed larger injectors from a 997 3.8 as the original ones were close maxing out on full throttle. the car has an Evo MS intake and although this has lowered the BHP from 377, the sound it creates more than makes up for a negligible loss. Please check out Hartech on google for the build and engineering details, this was a substantial cost but worth every penny! The car has the rare (for a 996.2)aero kit including rear GT3 wing, the car is Seal grey and as you can see has been repainted due to age related chips and marks, the car has a few chips on the front end since this repaint purely down to it being driven. recent full suspension refresh (from Spyder performance) it has H&R springs and Bilstein B8 that are in very good condition, I have the rebound rates tested and graph showing this. the car is setup as a GT3 in a recent geometry setup. as you can imagine the car drives amazingly and flows lovely through the curves. This has had all of the typical 996 jobs completed for example: new a/c condensers and a/c pipes front back new brake lines front to rear and a brake overhaul including refurbished callipers and brake flexis front to back coolant hard lines(engine dropped) including underbody stone chip application. all 3 engine drive pulleys replaced Gear cables and 997 GT3 shift mechanism power steering pipes and a full steering flush. starter motor and Y cable (due to lazy start) much more to mention and will be happy to show the history and receipts backing up the work done. since my ownership the car has been serviced every year on Hartech recommended Millers Nanodrive 10-50 and now after 10k the engine feels so strong and quiet, before this the car was serviced by the former keeper who has filled in the service book and kept the receipts for the filters etc. the interior has the heated wingback sports seats with painted seal grey backs aswell as the centre console, which lifts the interior nicely, the jobs I would do this year is PCCM+ and renew the steering wheel and gearknob to really enhance the touch points of this car. Replacing the gear cables and shift mechanism is one of the best changes I have done, the shift is the best 996 I have experienced. the car has done 154k and about 10k since the rebuild, I have taken this car on a NC500 trip, it has been taken into Europe to the lakes and through Switzerland. its a car that has been enjoyed and isn't mileage precious. The car is allowed to warm and cool properly and gets stretched on occasion. if you are looking to view this car then please reach out, in my opinion its the GTS version Porsche never made in a 996, I am gauging interest and I'm not open to time wasters or silly offers. to build this car will cost so much more than the asking price. Thanks Nick

Looks a decent 996 but decent 997 money.

Very nice, good find Damo. I think that’s really fair money after all that work. Be interesting to see if there’s a markets out there yet for it ..

Can't find the advert, is it no longer live?

I saw that too - seemed like a steep price from an owner trying to recoup what they spent, rather than reflecting the market value? Yes, its had some big ticket items done, but with that mileage, i would have expected it to be at least 10k cheaper? Perhaps i should celebrate it though - high prices on high milers will bring everyone's values up

What's the price for a Hartech 3.9 fitted and mapped? So long as the shell and suspension is in good shape, would be a decent price.

educated guess the engines got to set you back 20k on its own Dona car at today’s values £15k ? Add all the other work .. £35k is very fair money .. Is there a market for it ? Do people appreciate quite what it takes/costs to build this car?

Its up their, most expensive 996 Carrera on the market at the moment ? only a few C4S are more...

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Plus the aero kit..

It’s the kind of car the owner should keep for another 5-10 years and stick another 100,000m on so they finally get the value of the enhanced rebuild back. That’s the problem with replacing/upgrading engines on much loved cars, will you ever get the payback? Maybe PPBB did if his stellar 996 is still going and he’s running it as intended?

I saw that one, I hope he gets good money as it bodes well for mine (also seal grey/ gen 2 aero!) and everyone elses

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PORSCHE 911 3.6 CARRERA 4S CABRIO TIPTRONIC S 2004 996 AWD CONVERTIBLE M96 AUTO | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for PORSCHE 911 3.6 CARRERA 4S CABRIO TIPTRONIC S 2004 996 AWD CONVERTIBLE M96 AUTO at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us Low miles should mean nice cosmetics ? Lack of use is never great for cars, been motd regularly so it’s been moving around not sat still be interesting to see service history

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Do friends green achieve these sale prices? Is there more comfort for buyers getting a car from a specialist and they pay a premium for doing so ?

so many tips for sale!

I keep wondering what the ratio is to manual, did they sell more or less Tip? Don’t know how you’d ever find out ?

From a little digging on the web etc it seems that manual 966's counted for around 10% of the sales. Looking on AT this morning that would appear somewhat correct but i'd probably see 20-25% as a more realistic figure overall.... certainly more tips for sale than manuals especially on the " base " C2 and C4 models. C4S seem to be alot more tip than manual.

Will be skewed a bit by buyers favouring manual cars, so they wont hang around as long. A leggy tip must be a hard sell in the current market. Looking back at the early C2 manuals for sale in this thread, i don't think any are still about.

Current 996 selection available on AT @ 22.01.26 @ 13:40PM. Targa - 4 manual , 4 tip C2 - 22 manual , 30 tip C4 - 14 manual , 17 tip C4S - 24 manual , 30 tip So total cars available ( non GT ) 145 of which 64 are manual so 43.84% . I didn't go into coupe v cabriolet. An interesting % nontheless and higher than i would've expected.

On the plus side, the tips do provide an affordable entry point into 911 ownership and probably less likely to have been thrashed around a track than a manual. I keep a general eye on the prices and in general it looks like the 'cheaper' 996's have bottomed out which may be related to the winter months, but a few cars coming to the market with strong pricing

I suppose in early 2000 a tip was quite revolutionary wasn’t it, and as an everyday sports car it would make it very user friendly in traffic, I did wonder if they were possibly more popular at the time? Tip I assume was a cost option? Our family cars a 15 year old tip Volkswagen its great.

Roughly how much would a 996.2 3.9 Hartech be worth with 59k miles? Manual, non sunroof.

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Should be worth a premium id have thought.

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This will be interesting and a good indicator of proper market value. I bought my 2005 C4S cab tip in a no reserve auction on eBay just over a year ago for £13k. I’m guessing this one will achieve £15k.

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Doesn't someone have one of those for sale now? 53 plate grey one asking £35k

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i agree - there will be a bunch of similar people in 20 years complaining at how rubbish the PDK is compared to the current technology

There won't be any gearbox's in 20 years it'll all be electric

I think the bargain buy for those in the know at the moment is one of the cheapest on the market, if you find a pre 2000 3.4 tip with say under 80k miles in nice condition it should give many more miles of trouble free motoring, tip gearbox is bomb proof and these engines don't score making it a reliable unit for say 13-14k it's great value.

Thanks for this, I haven't seen that one. I am vaguely thinking about moving mine on if I can sort a replacement.

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apologies if you already found it - it was posted a couple of pages back on here - but has a lot more miles than yours Post in thread 'Is much selling at the moment? 996 market' 19 Jan 2026 This looks good but price vs milage mite put some off. its had all the good bits done by the sounds of it Link not working so copy and paste from advert below but to sumerise, Hartech 3.9, 10,000 miles ago, 154,000 miles £35k HI thank you for stopping by, this is an advert for my 996 C2 Aero. It has 2 very special differences that make this no ordinary C2. It has the Hartech 3.9 conversion completed in 2020, this has had the rebuild due to light bore scoring but really due to crank bearing wear as this car has been driven and enjoyed. I am happy for any... Damo996

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I recon with such low milage and if the body work etc is mint then 25K up wards but its finding the right buyer which will take time I think. The other one with high milage has got to be at min 20k. I got offered 15k for mine last year at 164k miles and stock engine which was a sock, at the time I was having a chat with a guy saying i should have bought a turbo as I was missing my JDM turbo flutter days but its not for sale either. I have an 18k agreed value with insurance via PCGB valuation.

3.4 C2 were up for 25k in this thread, no idea what they sold for. Although a turbo is arguably a range topper, it doesn't make it a better car if a buyer wants all motor (i own a turbo, but i also love to wring out an NA at lower speeds). So ii doesn't need to be less than turbo money to sell. Your selling it short. A 3.9 hartech is not easy to find for sale I'd bet.

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the early 3.4 cable throttle cars are seen as a more purest car and so are selling for a higher value that the later models

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Yes, I know, but I'd consider a hartech 3.9 as a cut above a cable 3.4. Plus aero, non sunroof and low miles.

I think people put too much emphasis on engines, unless you're one of the very few people that experiences an engine failure then the majority of your money won't be spent on the engine every year. Apart from a water pump my 997 cost me nothing on the engine and on average £2-3k a year to run for other stuff and it was mostly spent on electrical gremlins, the best part of a grand was all new ABS/PASM sensors, wiring, etc, then there was their airbag sensors that kept failing for fun, then the door handle inside and out on the drivers side, then the window motor, the micro-switches, etc. Obviously the engine is the big ticket item if it does go, but people seem to forget the rest of the car is there. A nice manual C4S 996 seems to be upwards of £30k now and the cosmetically refurbished one at Bramley is £70k, which makes my full nut & bolt rebuild start to look like a bargain. I can see a point in the future where it won't seem that crazy to pay £100k for a fully rebuilt/refurbed 996.

Lee 9 werks TV is documenting his engine failure on YouTube, will make interesting viewing We haven’t seen what autoalex? Has done with the super high mileage ex Drs car yet? Werk96 are investing serious time into them, watched their latest Brake pad video I think the 996 is incredible value Right now, it’s right on the fault line between classic & Modern, for me personally it’s the perfect blend of proper analogue driving experience with modern reliability acceptable NVH proper heater AC PAS, we’re not getting cars like this again ! .

I was watching Seen Through Glass yesterday deliberating about what to do with his GT3 whilst walking around the Porsche museum/dealer in Holland. Even though he had all the latest and greatest products in front of him as well as all the old air cooled stuff he was showing a lot of respect for the humble 996.

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Absolutely. I’m a massive air-cooled fan and if I could only have one car then it’s the 930, but it is hard to justify the cost of any of them when a nice 996 is simply a better car all round. That’s why when I was building a car to last me a lifetime the 996 was the only sensible option, if I wanted to modernise the 930 to be as good then I’d need to throw £500k+ at it. Even Singer can’t do it and use a 964 rather than reengineer an earlier car and I think in hindsight their accountants probably wish they’d switched to a 996, it’s no wonder they’re a million quid plus to make a 964 do what they make it do.

Gen 1 & 2 996 GT3 don’t seem as desirable yet which You’d think they would be, first ever GT car, not made in great numbers, mezger engine. It would be nice to see their values rise so it makes economic sense to save them, I suspect this is the time we start to loose quite a few, rust problems, engine problems, righting 20 years of neglect means someone’s got to put their hand in their pocket. Even doing it yourself the parts costs add up quick.

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This looks lovely (island blu) Porsche 996 MK1 GT3 2000 | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Porsche 996 MK1 GT3 2000 at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us

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That's a beauty....!!!!

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It's a nice car but look in the engine bay it's filthy and looks a bit unloved to me that header tank is dreadful.

I agree and whilst it's clearly not a garage queen, the price reflects that i reckon..... just taken another look and i don't think the bay is filthy at all actually ... probably need a new header tank though.

Look at the dirt around the lid hinges, the air filter is dirty, the oil filter tray is corroded and the bracket is rusty , (it just says i'm unloved) why would anyone put a picture of a car that's for sale at this kind of money up looking like that. It's not what i'd expect anyway. Still these issues can be addressed but the damage is done in this market.

So you're not buying it then.... or, maybe you are and trying to put us all off............some owners just aren't into cleaning their engines i guess and prefer to spend time driving out on the roads and tracks... gotta say i've never walked away from a car because it had dirty lid hinges. The pics are clearly pre-prep pics which could be seen as a good way to market the car.... this is how it came to us , warts and all so as not to hide anything with a shiny coat and silicone spray everywhere..?

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seems like strong money for a car with highish miles and no MOT? The grey interior doesn't do itself any favours either in my eye Although if they sells for near the asking, that must be a sign that prices have bottomed out or perhaps strengthening

...and it'll need a drivers side window regulator as window didn't drop when he opened the door.

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I’d say its priced at the “drivers” market rather than the “garage queen” market (£15k discount?) I think it wouldn’t depreciate at all with 10-15k more miles on, thats several years of ownership for most of us. The maintenance bill over that period would obviously be more than a regular 996, but then the lack of depreciation would offset that right……(setting my calculator to man maths mode

It's definitely priced to it's condition/mileage I'g want to get those side skirts off and check out the state of the sills etc but if £65k is all you've got it's about the only one that's non Cat at that price just now. You'd hope service history is good.

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Totally Agree Not happening, you’re struggling to shift a good one with an MOT for 11.5k right now.

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Is that the door he whacked into the bush when he opened it as my friend pointed out

It’s funny, Harry’s quoting the beautiful £70k Bramley C4S, uncle Monty’s on the GT3 trail and I’m looking at MOT failures on eBay

...and i've just enquired about an F40..................!!!!

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...yeah the one he didn't shut................

I thought that was Zenith Blue at first glance. Never even knew of Island Blue. That would be a nice proposition if the condition and history check out. Any 1 of 1 first gen GT3 has got to be as good a place as any to put the money.

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I'm not a cleaner or polisher, I'll clean a car if it seems dirty but the engine bay is likely to only get a wipe round every six months. I'm keen on everything mechanical working properly but dirt and even the odd stone chip doesn't bother me. That wouldn't put me off buying it unless it was at a place where I know they prep their cars to meticulous condition and then I'd wonder why they haven't done it.

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Have you been up close to one? It's basically an engine and the rest of the car seems to be very flimsily built and only exists to cart the engine around. I'm still looking for a perfect CGT, I was watching YouTube videos today and Jay Leno talking about how hard they are to drive at anything near the limit. The idea of these extreme cars is exciting, but I'm even starting to huff a bit about my 930 if there is any traffic or stop/start journeys. The other day for the first time ever I wished I was in the Range Rover instead and I started to worry I was going off it a bit, but it was just the traffic. I think I'm getting old, my 997 Tip was a dream to drive and I wonder why I sold it now.

I've seen a Testarossa up close and I thought it was a kit car...seriously. GT3RS's are now touching £200k which makes me very sad ...they're even more in Europe. I'm going to be really happy with this 98 C2 once it's all done , it's a bit of a dirt bag but that means I don't have to worry about using it , just as long as it's all tight and the engine goes well I'll be very pleased and I might sell my Turbo and buy a half decent sailboat.

Not an F40 car....an F40 model car

At any stage during my membership on here have i ever given the impression i could afford an F40........... if i have i truly apologise.

You never know Skoosh...a long lost Aunt in Aus Back in the real world what model? I quite fancy a blue GT3RS from AutoArt I won £650 on premium bonds last month...there was once i'd have been delighted but I spent it in about 3minutes on ebay buying an old boat engine to fix up.

After a bit of research the blue gt3 has popped up in a thread on PH gt3 fs, some guy on there did a ppi on it the diff is toast , the air bag leather on steering wheel is split, header tank is empty ,broken rear lens, rust on spot welds that look a bit sus rear quarters, the tyres are from 2011 and the paint is rough the gurney flap is missing, failed to sell at auction , anyone still feeling lucky take a look. I think it needs a bit more than a clean.

Looks like your initial appraisal of dirty hinges was on the money Hooner...very unloved/abused.

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The access we have to information now ..

I’ve done no research on it but still a rare car assuming the claim about the colour is correct? dunno how you’d check that? Might be a nice deal there for someone willing to invest some time / money into it ..

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I think that’s a good way to look at it. I’m as guilty as anyone else for delving into the detail, I was like Sherlock Holmes buying a 930, but looking back I always said I’d never end up being a Porsche anorak fretting over every tiny detail, yet here I am buying into exactly that. If it’s financially a nightmare and you don’t have the budget then it’s good to know what you’re getting into, but other than that should it really matter if it’s all matching numbers and original paint? I’m not sure I can even answer that myself.

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Err.................no it's not. One thing about GT3 cars especially the early 996/997 is the small RHD production numbers so a lot of cars are well known in GT circles. This PTS car has had an 'interesting' history and the dedicated enthusiast groups keep up to speed with certain cars perhaps inviting the buyer to sink another £20k into it to make it right if you're brave enough to take it on. It's not had an MOT since 2019 along with repeated attempts to sell it The takeaway is that cars of this generation will have been used as intended and you need to go in with your eyes open so unless you're going to use it as a track slag a 996GT3 at c£80k may not offer any more enjoyment on the road than a well sorted 996.1 C2 for £30k. Interesting that the 996.1 GT3 dropped as low as £30k several years ago. Provenance and a detailed maintenance record is everything on these.

I stand corrected.........

Interesting… I suppose the low numbers make them much easier to trace history. Do GT cars get raced and then put back on the road ? Im Assuming not for the expense of doing so? But in the future possibly? Look at 964RS and the life some of those had, values rocket, full restoration and it’s all forgotten..

It might be me but I’d always assumed a GT car had been used hard & seen lots of track time because ultimately that’s what it was for ? They’ll always be the anomaly that got parked in a collection I’m guessing

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This is the only early 996 for sale so 97 - 99 which is a coupe and manual As usual there are no early c2 coupe manual cars

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I was going to say this, if this was a 964 then people would be calling it a good buy and worthy of restoration. The hate for the 996 runs deep, I don’t have that affliction, I think the 996 is at least as worthy as anything else to throw money at, spend £100k on this and you’d have a road car that is better than pretty much any other 911 under £250k.

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Interesting point made there reading the various bits of info, GT3 having less under body protection to save weight. If this is correct UK cars could be more susceptible to the dreaded tin worm ..

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Its not the only one - you just need to dig through the usual selling sites. More C4's available though if an early 996 is specifically what you are after. Probably not the best time of year to be looking either - a lot of cars are hidden away for the winter and expect more to be on the market once the weather cheers up 1998 Manual Coupe in the more common silver https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202511027593824?sort=year-asc&searchId=2529b5a3-302a-4e3b-bfd7-0516490095d2&body-type=Coupe&make=Porsche&model=911&page=2&postcode=rg22+4rt&transmission=Manual&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra=&backLinkQueryParams=body-type%3DCoupe%26channel%3Dcars%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26postcode%3Drg22%25204rt%26sort%3Dyear-asc%26transmission%3DManual%26page%3D3%26flrfc%3D1&calc-deposit=1100&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000

Scabby exterior, but looks like the full carbon pack interior? (could be fake) I wonder if the dealer would let me swap those bits out with mine? Used Porsche Cars for Sale in Macclesfield, Cheshire | Gumtree Find amazing local prices on used Porsche cars for sale in Macclesfield, Cheshire ✅ Shop hassle-free with Gumtree, your local buying & selling community. www.gumtree.com

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Lol, factor in a grand for proper headlights, a few hundred for engine mounts it needs and another grand for decent tyres rather than the ditch finders she's wearing and all of a sudden you're into £13-14k.................!!!!!!!!!!! and this is just from looking at the pics for 30 seconds....rough as is that and the "more common silver".............!!!

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.....993 another rough one..... who would seriously buy a 911 from this type of dealer...... another few grand needed on the bodywork alone.... carbon appears to be dipped as peeling off...??

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I didn't say it was a good one, just that there are others out there When i was looking, majority of the 996.1 were silver or black - i was hoping for a brighter colour, but didn't have the patience to wait

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Its difficult to tell from the photos - like you say, some bits are rough, but the centre console and door trims looked good, and the dash vent has the circle markings in it, so perhaps not dipped? unless they added after?

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Just looked up those "Rolalla" tyres - the fronts are about £50 each!!!! sign of an enthusiast owner there

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Well they're perhaps better than Happy Galop, Landsail or my all time favourite Linglong

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Sorry I meant on ebay specifically

I haven’t done a deep dive, it looks like a very nice example with Hartech rebuild. It’s advertised on the forum currently on collecting cars. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-porsche-911-996-carrera-4s-43

And the convertible is inching up with 9hours to go ..

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Hands down winner for me happy gallop

They don’t attract the insta crowd that the 991GT and more recent models attract, and they were never investments, so I’m hopeful more of them have been properly thrashed They are built to be thrashed and all you want to know is that they have been maintained to be thrashed I’d trust a well-used track car with a solid Indy history over a low mileage garage car with OPC stamps Please don’t buy one as an investment. Leave them for those of us who cherish the driving experience!

And same for the rest of the 996 range. As soon as the restomod muppets start getting an interest and they become the next insta sensation, then that market is gone to the enthusiast as well

The floor is being whipped away from the enthusiast that can’t spend a fortune on a car - it’s a real shame for my son, now 13, and the rest of the younger generation that would love something interesting to drive First the scrappage scheme took loads of interesting cheap cars off the roads, then subsequent crashes and growth has meant there is virtually nothing there anymore

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I'm happy for some insta "influencer" to pay over the odds for mine

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What about an MGB ? still pretty cheap and everything easily available but a bit old fashioned for a 13yr old. A french hot hatch maybe..like the Clio172 Sport..I'd like one of those to bash around in but I don't need another car. Fiat 500? Punto?

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£20k bill for engine and service!

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I don’t disagree with any of that, but at 54, I think back to when I was young and what a choice we had, at money that could be aimed at! Not that much now in comparison. 172 is a great shout MGBs are death traps mind you ;-)

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And with that, ah’m oot! You might as well drive an electric

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seriously you'd have an electric car rather than a Hartech rebuilt C4S tip , i bet a standard manual car wouldn't get near it.

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I A joke my friend, based on some of the absolute nonsense posted in the “tip” thread of last week - I have driven a tip and it was perfectly acceptable for an automatic box

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Now now A c4s is the heaviest 996 so has the worst power to weight ratio In My View a narrow body is a better car You don't need all that extra width and disc brakes and what not B U T I do love the red strip on the back so if someone could sell me a red strip for a c2 I'd be all over it

Surely it’s not heavier than the turbo? The rear deck with that spoiler is insanely heavy in its own right!

Unusual one this - 1 owner, medium miles, but been stored and needs recommissioning - £7500 Worth taking on? 2000 Porsche 911 (996) Cabrio C4 For Sale - Fremont Classics A stunning 2000 Porsche 911 (996) Cabrio C4 For SALE! Fully vetted prepared and reconditioned, and ready to be driven away. Come take a look. fremontclassics.com

Nope....not at that money. not as a whole car anyway.... may be worth a few more quid as a breaker but at least they've been honest with regards the condition even without viewing the pictures... like the beetle they have though.

honest advert, sadly makes no economic sense to save that right now. The visable Rot is only what you can see! Parts Dona now in my opinion.

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This needs to visit Douglas Valley

This just proves what a lovely looking car the 996 is, from a fleeting glance at the 1st picture..... yeah she's an absolute dog but damn they're a pretty car.

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just noticed that their website seems to have a default mode for links - not sure they would be willing to stand up to the sub heading of their ad on this particular car........

It’s a good purchase for the right buyer, and not for someone looking for their first 996. I have been contemplating getting a cabriolet and stripping it down just to hoon around in. This car seems like a good candidate to me.

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I'll pass as I can't see it getting me around the country roads of France in May. Plus my Colini stick inspection tool would be off the scale

as per previous post in Dec, I'm having to put my 2001 996.1 C4 manual up for sale shortly (due to job loss ). What would be a fair price to advertise it for? high level info: - less than 85K just had full service (inc all air,& pollen filters, spark plugs etc) less than 85K Service book with stamps A4 folder with receipts for £35K of maintenance an servicing etc. Original bil of sale etc, Info from all previous owners. Meridian Silver BC Racing coilovers Danske supersport exhausts New fuel rails new brakelines & fluid. Previous work incluses brake & suspension overhauled, radiators, etc. Retro BlueTooth / MP3 radio. GT3 console delete. Original PCM, CD changer & SatNav ina box couple of pics. How much do you think I should ask for it?

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Hi Recardo, sorry you're having to sell up mate especially as the used performance car climate is so poor as the moment. There's no mention of IMS or borescore etc, yes it's a cliche but on a 2001 model it's pertinent i guess.... have you any records of any work or inspections..? Looking at autotrader there are currently 6 manual, coupe C4 996's for sale , 3 of which are 996.1 models so they're pretty uncommon oddly. They range from £15750 to £26500 so averaging @ £ 19k or so. It's not gonna help you much by us giving an idea on price , i guess it depends on how much you need the funds as to what you accept. For what it's worth, my 1999 996 C4 6spd coupe is looked after by MLR in Stoke who now know the car inside out and they advised that if i was to sell her i'd expect to ASK for £18-19k as she's a particularly good example, even on 120k miles. Have you contacted a few dealers to see what they'd value her at as a sale..? All the best and good luck. Si.

Start high, and go lower as you get more desperate. I would also buy some silver centre caps from onbuy for £7ish and maybe paint your wheel bolts whilst you have time on your hands.

Benchmark it against @corneg1 's car and ask yourself is it as good as this to gauage a price? I would have been all over it like a tramp on a chip but he has taken a deposit on it. A lot of cars seem to be hanging around for sale for ages and despite some preventative measures the risk of engine failure plays on the buyer's mind My approach is I'm 'buying the seller' so I'm selective. My beginnings into the 996 market have identified some "custodians" who are just missing the trilby, sheepskin coat and dealer boots

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i agree with you there - when i purchased mine, the seller was someone who i thought was entirely reasonable and knew a bit about Porsches - he had a 997 and a 987.2 as well - hence selling to make space. The 2nd car i looked at that day didn't add up - the seller had it a while but the story was they took in part exchange, not used it for a while, put a new MOT on it at a special police workshop, had it up for a higher price, but now just wanted rid to buy a land rover - despite being in a chocolate box location, it was more than a little fishy, and that's before i found the issues that should never have got past an MOT station. I pity the poor sod who bought it. The i enjoy the buying part the most - trying to find the gems amongst the chaff

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Sorry Heaviest of all the NA 996 including the gt3 I believe. There was a little table somewhere with all the weight and power to weight etc for each variant. I have it my head that the early c2 wins on weight and power to weight - again of the na cars only - but probably excluding the gt3 from that obviously.

I'd say it's spent some time by the sea. There's rust in places you don't normally see it , but £7500! Referring to the C4 Cab above.

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Make an exception for Meridian Silver! Gutted to sell as this really was a bucket list weekend car for me, but obviuosly my situation has changed somewhat. Love driving this thing, and the sound off the Danske exhausts is so addictive! Still on original IMS (AFAIK - I'm sure if it had been done there woud be a receipt amongst sheaf of maintenance records) My view is it is the 3.4L engine, 25 years old, done nearly 85K and is worth less than £20K, so if its made it this far etc.... I was thinking of advertising at £14995 and see where it goes. New entre caps have already been ordered and winging their way to me. This is my third Porsche. I bought this based on the previous owner being of this parish and a good sort - Car was always garaged. All the right maintenance done, and handing the baton over to me with a history of receipts from new to present. In my ownership its not been skimped on either - got full brake lines, rear brake rebuild, and other bits and bobs in the summer along with new fuel rails (Porsche only part = £ouch!).

You may be able to get more by removing the aftermarket parts and selling them separately. Do you still have the stock exhaust and shocks/springs?

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If you have the original console I'd refit it and sell the delete kit separately A few of us here would be interested in that

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sorry - car is staying as is until sold - I like the retro radio and GT3 delete over the antiques roadshow PCM etc, the new owner can decide whether to keep it as is or revert back to original PCM etc

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I'm liking the sound of your car, chum but is there any chance you can move house further south as I'm in the North West

.....or meet halfway.........

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The early c2 is about third on the power/ weight scale on that table (N/A). Boggo gen 2 beats it and then the gen 2 X51 appears top. 996 power to weight by Scott Osborne , on Flickr

Love that table thanks! What a lardy car the turbo is - I had a 996.1c2 before my current 996T and both “Manuel” - you really feel all that extra weight in terms of agility and stopping

That’s very sad to hear. I like the idea of the 996T, and I already think a 996 C2 is a bit overweight.

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I'm just (a wee bit) up the road!

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What you get back is the almost physics defying slingshot out of corners - they really don’t feel like they are basically the same car! Back me into a corner and the C2 IS more fun, but then a 986 Boxster is even more fun IMO and I’ve owned all three Turbo power is a bit intoxicating

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And thank you for being honest in your views! Lots of people think a 996 is a 996 but a turbo is such a different car to a c2 that it might as well be a different model (same for most 911's really!) In an ideal world im sure most of us would like both as they are such a different proposition to one another. I see lots of comments on Facebook around people spending lots of money on c2's "should've just got a turbo!" etc. I always think these people just dont 'get it'.

Totally agree! A GT3 is a C2 that is hyper aware on steroids, not much fat on a C2 but the GT3 just feels fighting fit! Drove my mates 996.1GT3CS back in 2002 (the unicorn) or so and it really opened my eyes coming from a DC2 ITR, for which they both share DNA of racing As a daily, turbo is not as good as a C2 either as the gearbox is much more ponderous, but the turbo feels more lux (extended leather, alcantara roof, much nicer leather than my .1C2 had) and much more confident due to the weight and the 4WD, and in the wet west coast that’s no bad thing However, I do still love my turbo - but you are right - they are completely different cars

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Sorry to hear you’ve got to sell up Recardo, looks a nice car. Pricing is very personal isn’t it, most seem to be hovering around the mid teens private seller wise. I personally feel good RUST FREE cars with a lot of the usual things addressed should easily command more money than that but maybe other don’t see it like that. I suppose it’s why I started this thread, cars I thought would sell quickly didn’t appear too and I was curious what was happening. hopefully you get what you need Best of luck

How many of the rust free listing's actually show the underside? The overall presentation and write up is important to differentiate the better cars.

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I've got a minty 05 Turbo and a dirt bag 98 C2 , both manual coupes. They are very different cars but both great fun and the value of the Turbo can be an issue on how often I drive it , the C2 I got for a song and spent a fair bit on good stuff and I'd imagine I'll drive it more because miles won't hurt it and I don't need to worry about much with it. I should say the Turbo is like a new car and has not a spot of corrosion anywhere. The C2 was very very solid apart from a little hole in the end of the OS sill under that plastic trim piece. I'd keep well away from anything that was showing the signs of rusting , the cost to fix it properly and then repaint out weighs the price of the car , as a 996 but a 993/964/ 3.2 Carrera not the case. Also agree with Nebpor , my first Porsche was 98 2.7 986 and that was a brilliant little car , wonderful to drive , great for touring , soft top mid engined Porsche with a flat 6 engine , I think I paid £8500 in 2011. It was a gem

My first Porsche was that 986 and it was actually a 1997 2.5! Such a sweet engine and gearbox combo (Audi box?) - made a lovely noice coming on cam at 4K revs! I paid 6.5k for it, with hardtop, in 2008 and me and future wife promptly went for a French holiday in it!

Yeah we did lots of trips around Scandinavia and Germany in ours. Mine had the Audi box too and the engine was a little peach...the whole car was actually. This was in an underground hotel car park in Bremen I think

My old 2.7 many years ago...first Porsche and loved her....!!

Well, if we are posting our old Boxsters, my 1st Porsche was a 987.2 S - loved this car

My last 2.9...another great motor...sold her with 158000 on the clock

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All your reminiscing about Boxsters is making me want to get a 986 now.

They are brilliant roadsters...!!!

Ive never driven one, a friend had a 986 3.2 and loved it. In theory it should be the better car being mid engined ? What do you guys think now you’re in a 911 ??

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I've gone 'backwards' - 2x 987.2's and now the 996. Overall i would say the 987.2 S is the better car comparing the 2, but its 10 years newer and probably better overall VFM - but its not a 911....

There was a guy on here who put a turbo engine in a boxer, ended up breaking the car, must have been a bit of a weapon (the car that is).

I've had a base 718 Cayman and a 718 GTS. Both so digital particularly as PDK and quiet. I've only driven limited miles in my 996 but just feels more involving. There is little doubt the Cayman could take more power and the 911 flagship status is/was being protected. My GTS was brutally quick, but as @drunkpanda said..... "It's not a 911". Also, the 911 has 2 rear seats.....so I can take my dog too....

You reach a certain age and you need a 911 , or more to the point you can actually afford one! I had a Cayman too, Speed Yellow S , it was brilliant but just not me. so in 2011 i paid £8500 for my 986 , it was a good one but not exceptional. I think 996's were £12-15k roughly , out of my price bracket unfortunately but I wonder what 964s were going for then, probably £18-£22k ? They're my favourite 911 and it looks like I'll never own one

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Exactly this Not that fast really but for the older gentleman who doesn't need to rush they're great And you can get the sun on your face too I don't really fit in a 986 as I'm about 6 2 but I did a bit of fiddling with bucket seats until I fit just fine so it is possible if you really want one

At Omaha beach. Loved the colour combo!

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Probably just as well as you’ve said before you’ve crashed/written off 3 Porsches so far

a testament to their excellent safety systems

how much you reckon to get this up to usable scratch: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202601309558377?sort=relevance&searchId=b0ead6e2-42da-4355-b986-71adf4af098f&make=Porsche&model=911&page=1&postcode=CB13AE&transmission=Manual&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra=&backLinkQueryParams=channel%3Dcars%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26postcode%3DCB13AE%26sort%3Drelevance%26transmission%3DManual%26flrfc%3D1&calc-deposit=680&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000

Apart from mine being Arena Red it's exactly what I bought at the beginning of 2025 , supposedly a cracked cylinder head although it doesn't appear to be the case for me, same interior and same price. Secondhand heads are readily available as the 3.4 shares the same heads as the 3.2 986 (so i've been told) I'd be all over that as a project but I have one already. £3k should give it a good refresh but you'd need to do the work yourself...£3k doesn't go far at £100/hr. I'd be on the phone right now. Heat exchanger might mean the oil cooler which is good to know.

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I can do most of the work but I don't have a lift, pretty sure you need to drop the engine to get to cylinder heads?

Yes you do and a lift is super helpful but it can be done on the floor..once it's out you can give it a good going over. I think the early 3.4s are perfection in terms of the slide into modern water cooling from the air cooled 993s , mine has no options , no traction , just ABS and a cable actuated throttle body.

That's a bargain easy fix ^ I took my engine and gearbox out with a small trolley jack a small bottle jack and some blocks of wood and axle stands. I'd say it's easier than a front engine car.

I'd want to check it for serious rot before buying as that could make it an economic disaster but hopefully it's not too bad. One of those cheap Endoscope cameras would be useful if you're allowed to remove the bungs in the ends of the sills at the rear.

Advert says it’s had some rust repair, as long as it’s a solid shell thats a great way into a 911 if you’re able to work on it yourself..

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Where did you hear that? That’s a revelation!

I don't know but when I bought mine the reason it was so cheap was the PO was certain it had a cracked head as it was using coolant (no intermix) so I looked for another head and discovered they're the same apart from some tiny differences. He'd fitted new rads first but still using coolant so he sold it as is. I took it out and found DS rad spurting coolant out when i stopped. The little rubber drain bung (that some have) was leaking. Might be a coincidence

Omg, that’s it? Your head wasn’t cracked? That would be incredibly lucky if so!

I think you need to drill and tap out the holes in the casting for the exhaust brackets to bolt on and some extra holes for the intake manifold bolts.( cylinder heads)

Yeah of course.

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That's interesting. Maybe a job for next winter. I've got mine on a Quick lift so do you think the engine & box will come out easy after taking off all the top plastic stuff.

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Perfect slate for a large turbo K24 build!

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I don't get why people would put K24s on a 996 - you can get 600 bhp out of K16s and any more than that and you're traction limited anyway?

Aren't k24s also more difficult to refurbish or renew?

I think he means a Honda K24 turbo build - quite a bit more affordable when finding a spare engine!

A 4 banger in a 996! Never!

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Not only are they cracking engines, you get back 50/50 weight distribution ;-)

I think they're great engines, but then so are 2 strokes, neither are what i would put in a 996. I wouldn't put a flat 6 in hot hatch either.

Yes, I meant the Honda engine. Sorry about the confusion. While I would love to keep a flat 6 in a Porsche, it doesn’t make sense to my frugal self. For the cost of rebuilding a M96 (not the Mezger!), you can get a fully built K24 motor outputting 600 hp and all the ancillaries to run it in your car. And for the cost of rebuilding the mezger, you can do that twice!

Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe with Aero kit. 74,560 Miles FP+PSSH | eBay UK Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe with Aero kit. 74,560 Miles FP+PSSH at the best online prices at eBay UK! Free delivery for many products! ebay.us Don’t think I’ve ever seen a .1 in state grey?? States Hartech rebuild in the advert, be interesting to know more about what was done.

Pardon our interruption... Low miles early .1 manual 2wd

Lovely colour combo...never thought grey could look that good , goes well with red interior. Very nice car.

Price is mental 25k on the other end Auto Alex has just bought one on you tube for £1500 quid !

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It’s genuinely sad that’s all they’re worth, but if it needs a rebuild then you’re probably spending £20k and you’re left with a car that might not get that back in a sale. The 996 has been maligned terribly.

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Very clean example but why misadvertise the transmission.....??

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I spotted that one too. Enquired about it - deposit paid pending PPI already.

This one didn't sell last year at £30k, so the same dealer has relisted it for £33k. TBF there's got to be £10k worth of waffle in the ad description Used 1998 PORSCHE CARRERA for sale Check out this HOLY GRAIL - THROTTLE CABLE - LSD - MO30 for sale on PistonHeads. Get in touch for more information or to take a test drive today! www.pistonheads.com

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Spose it answers the question is anything selling? It ticks the 996 boxes doesn’t it, if it’s got Hartech liners aswell seems too cheap ? Its mot history isn’t squeaky clean but fairly typical of most of them now. Who knows we might meet the owner on here ?

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I’d hazzard a guess it never sold ? Curious what the bigger performance brakes are ?? Anyone know ?

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Sloppy, speaks volumes dunit

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No-one knows..................................

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602049669169?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios-app&calc-deposit=1357&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000 Very early R plate 2wd manual

Very nice ! looks like a bargain compared to the others , quite low mileage really considering its an early car plenty of life left that old girl yet.

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Yep, that's what I'd be going to view out of the current cars on the market. Potentially great value

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can't get onboard with the grey interior..

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£13k and a tin of black kiwi polish

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Small price to pay for knowing you won't get bore score

Im not sure I understand the chasm price wise between the zenith blue and ocean jade car ?

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Climate control screen showing LOW = Aircon “just needs a regas”, ie. its *****

I've got 2 x 996 outside and I've been thinking about selling both for a while but not sure how to do it. Both don't have an MOT and 1 will drive but the other 1 doesn't have a working clutch. So is it possible to sell these as is or do I really need them driving and MOT'ed?

You can sell anything - but if your car isn’t roadworthy with the appropriate ticket, then you’re limiting your market somewhat, meaning you’re not going to get much money at all! You’re an old hand at this - don’t you have the time to fix them up and prep them for sale?

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Depends on how much you want for them. If the price is on the cheaper side, porsche forums may work, although a lot will always downplay the value of 996's. If you just want to sell as is, ebay is probably the best bet as you get the largest audience, but will get the usual chancers. Concise ad, no waffle, state any issues. The maximise your return, it would be better to have both running, driving and full MOT Asking prices for good project cars, i.e. not needing full rebuilds seem to start £8k upwards, wheter they sell for that though is anyones guess

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I'm not an old hand at selling. I recently tried selling a 986 Boxster and had little to no interest. My thinking now is that if the cars are cheap enough to attract people at the very bottom of the scale that might make the process simpler. If I invest a lot of time and energy and a bit of money into them do I get that back. That’s the unknown. I think there are 2 types of buyers. 1 just wants a nice car. The other wants a project to make money.

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Sorry, I assumed that you had bought a lot (and sold a lot)! I think this is clearer - if you do nothing, you'll have a limited market and have to accept what it offers, like the good old kick in the balls if they are lying around a while - if you spend some time investing in them, then suddenly you have a pair of shiny 996s that might appeal to every new Porsche dreamer, giving a much wider spread of offers. I am not expert in selling anything mind you, I hate it with a passion!!

I bought mine as a project 2 years ago now. It's a 98 C2 coupe manual The thing is no one is going to make money on a project, it's just a different way of financing a car .., the initial cost is less than half that of a "good" car and you can then drip feed cash in for new parts as and when you want improving the whole car as you go along. You might then get it Mot'd and run it about while still fixing things that crop up with actually driving it. I'd say this is really only possible if you can do the work yourself , a garage won't want the car in and out for small jobs and the labour cost of this as well as transporting it will be cost prohibitive. There are many more people about with £8k to spend on a 911 than there are with £20k and this then allows them to spend a certain amount each month on new parts and tick the boxes off , this for some is really satisfying and rewarding and you become more attached to the car I suppose. I would also say that deep rust/corrosion in the shell is probably the most likely thing that'll scrap these 996's now , it's so expensive to sort out rot.

Very good food for thought there - helped me look at it in a different way

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What are they ATM ? stick some details up Of course you can sell them as they are, ebay bidders love a project .. obviously you don’t get running driving MOT money for them ..

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I've got one of those CSR specials from RPM. This is the one without a working clutch ... RPM Technik Porsche 996 CSR review, price and specs | Evo Specialist develops upgrade package to breathe new life into the original water-cooled 911 www.evo.co.uk Then I've got a 1998 c2 coupe manual with lots of mods - listed below - which should drive fine but has no MOT so I was working through the fails and its almost finished now. KW Clubsport suspension Tricky anti roll bars Poly Bushes X51 baffled sump Momo steering wheel

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Where are you based ATM?

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Manchester

Looks interesting For Sale: Porsche 911 GT1 Evo (1997) offered for £143,468 Colour: White, Mileage: , Power: 400/544 kW/hp, Body style: Coupe, Manufacturer code: , Seller: Century Limited – www.classic-trader.com www.classic-trader.com

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So is this the actual car?

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Sorry don't understand the question

RPM Technik Porsche 996 CSR review, price and specs | Evo Specialist develops upgrade package to breathe new life into the original water-cooled 911 www.evo.co.uk Wrong message. Just wondered if this is your actual car in the link

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What else has been done to the csr engine apart from a IMS bearing replacement ?

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Not sure

its so hard to sell at the moment and I think I become less tolerant as I get older! There seems to be 3 types of "Porsche buyer" when it comes to the 996 - 1. "The IMS expert" - never actually going to buy a Porsche. Fixated on non existant IMS issues. Beleives the hype. Wont look at £20K+ cars that have IMS replaced (probably for no reason), only looks at the lower priced, perfectly good historied and fettled cars, but insists every porsche (including diesel cayennes) should have the IMS replaced "as a matter of course" 'cos their Indy expert and T'internet says so.... Likes the idea and fantasy of owning a porsche but lacks either the funds or cohones (or both) to move from internet tyre kicker status to actually view an actual car. 2. "The Professional Timewaster" - all the traits of the IMS expert, but makes all the right noises to string you along, loads of emails requesting specific pictures, wants to know all sorts of details about the car: the date/time/ of when the car was serviced in 2006, what the engineers name was and what he had for breakfast that day, and did he have the correct Porsche Technicians shirt on? Really needs to know if anyone farted in the car in 2014, and can you still smell it? Will make arrangements to view that change at the last minute, or collecting via a transportation company. Will agree a price and deposit. Will send a deposit thats never received. Starts to "find issues" with car, and decides it has a heavy clutch (despite not viewing or driving the car) or invents a non-existant fault. Wife / Husband /Bank Manager / Dom probably says no and pulls the plug, then ghosts you.... 3. "the genuine buyer" - understands the car, knows whats actually important and that the IMS etc is fine. A needle in the haystack! Unfortunately either already has a 996, or is at the other end of the country.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2001-porsche-911-996-carrera-14 Low miles service history looks slim pickings last few years

Had a hard life this one Rot is now a real concern with 996 isnt it, the rust on the surface is what you can see, how deep does it go .. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602059711386?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android-app&calc-deposit=1500&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000

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You can totally see the appeal of auctions can’t you.

definitely a consideration now

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Thats just "patina"

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Spot on!!! i also think that advertising on any of the 996 FB forums seems to be a bad idea looking at the typical responses you see - most already have a 996 and all have their opinions on why your car will be terrible, theirs is so much better and how its over-priced - the community seems to do well at shooting itself in the foot when it comes to pricing! Then you get the armchair anoraks who insist it has to be a 1998, C2, cable throttle manual made on Wednesday 7th October by Klaus otherwise its not worth having! On the plus side, these sort of blinkers mean the rest of us can pick up some bargains. The Porsche world is bizarre some times

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Pretty car and strong money actually.... not heard of those tyres so googled them to see they're a budget friendly Pirelli...... what's on the roof i wonder... bird droppings or corrosion.....

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I've started a thread about this A Thread 'My Rock Hard 996' 13 Feb 2026 So I thought I'd start a thread here about my 996. The plan is to sell it. So for now I thought I'd document what's going on because I know some buyers want to know absolutely everything they can possibly need to know and more. Why is it Rock Hard It's got very racey KW Clubsport coilover suspension. The car came to me like this. I bought it because I like buying cars which have been modified a bit because it shows that the owner has invested a few quid and therefore hopefully the car was sound to begin with. Everyone told me to avoid a car with old tired suspension and this absolutely... ATM ATM Replies: 27 Forum: Porsche 911 996 (1997-2005)

996.2 manual cab with a few issues up for sale on AT at £9,500 - could be a replacement coolant tank, could be something more sinister - but not quite as sinister as those headlight covers! https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602059697737?sort=price-asc&searchId=c9942442-8d9c-4294-b61f-dd282479479d&make=Porsche&model=911&page=1&postcode=rg22+4rt&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra=&backLinkQueryParams=channel%3Dcars%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26postcode%3Drg22%25204rt%26sort%3Dprice-asc%26flrfc%3D1&calc-deposit=950&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000

Capturing this to see whether the prices do start to rise if/when the rain stops and the sun comes out - the cheapest 911's on Autotrader today starting at £9,000

Car and Classic makes it look pretty dramatic increase - up £19% in 12 months. You can select different models to try to eliminate effect a rise in rarer models like GT3 might have on the average sale prices.

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The professional time waster is absolutely spot on, but probably not isolated to just Porsches, explains the rise in the car auction sites as you remove all this level of BS.

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I recognise the car, was on autotrader for over a year £17.5k asking price. Mickey Mouse Tyres generally mean the owners skimped on stuff. Very little recent spend by looks of paperwork. Great to have original bill of sale £61k Looks tidy

2004 Porsche 911 horizon-blue-metallic Automatic Right Ha... 2004 Porsche 911 horizon-blue-metallic Automatic Right Hand Drive in United Kingdom - For Sale by Auction | Car & Classic, £25,000 This l... www.carandclassic.com Very Rare thing

A very lovely thing too...great colour combo!!

Lovely car - especially the interior.

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Assume that’s been redone as not seen a cream interior like than in a 996 before?

I've seen a few but they're rare as rocking horse droppings

It’s sonderwunsch 09991 special wishes order car

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202602129881284?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android-app&calc-deposit=1700&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000 2WDAerokit !

The paint on it looks terrible plus that rust is prominent - at least they are showing you that in the pics rather than hiding it!

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Blimey thats rough! I sometimes think mine is showing its age and miles, but looks like a new car compared to that

wonder whats happened to the dash, never seen that happen before on a 996 , it's a bit of a shed really for the asking price.

I've just been watching Manor Park Classics live auction. This only limped to (IIRC) £10,500 failing to hit the reserve. High miles but engine rebuilt. Somehow 'suicide' Savannah seems relevant here

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How many miles?

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Was looking for £20k here, i presume the seller is rather disappointed. For Sale Thread '996 C4 rebuilt' 27 Dec 2025 Hi My old pal has just bought his dream 997t so his 996 is surplus. Now he has spent way over 20k on this car on an engine refresh with unique porsche plus a massive amount of work underneath including suspension, brakes, hoses and lines , tyres , literally everything done. It's in black with tan interior manual with 150k . Looking for about 20k but fully sorted. Any interest please message and I can put you in touch and we can send photos on what's app. We are in Blackpool. Dave is 75 but likes to keep on top of his cars . Steve Wright Replies: 5 Forum: Porsche 911 996 (1997-2005) CARS For Sale & Wanted

I also watched the manor park auction, it's a pointless exercise putting it in there unless you're desperate for cash, do you only pay if the car sells? anyone know.

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Am I right in thinking that if the paint is bubbling that far away from the edge of the wing the P.O. tried to hide the rust by having an unscrupulous bodyshop paint over it? So the rust is MUCH more extensive underneath amd left unaddressed for a while.

Pictures arnt great on my phone I couldn’t tell much about the paint to be honest. Wings aren’t the end of the world are they? It’s the quarters around the jacking points make me nervous. Full Aero kit cars seem thin on the ground

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If rust reached that far up the wing, so long ago that it was painted over then the paint bubbled, you can be sure the rear panels and jacking points are a mess, and the sills have rotten away underneath the aero skirt. Which explains the price.

That's the problem , they're not going to want you to take the aero kit off to have a look but underneath it could be lurking £10k+ in repairs. I'd say if the jacking points are ok , by that I mean salvageable , sills shouldn't be too bad but any welding and paint work gets very expensive very quickly unless you can do the work yourself. Jacking points are big job.

Thats the problem, even their description suggests an owner who could just drive and enjoy it for 12 months. I read that as it wont pass an mot in a years time, then what? Scrap a car you’ve paid £17k for? Needs to be sub £10k for that surely? Just doesn’t add up to me. (Especially as i offered my far-less-rusty .2 aero, 2wd, manual, non-sunroof, sonderwunsch 09991 car for £12k and only attracted time wasters, i just don’t know how these retailers do it?)

Is this an error?

Not if the engine needs rebuilding!

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I guess If the seller wants out of it right now it should get it sold. ? We’ll see

Has anyone spotted any early Manual 3.4 C2s for sale - or VFM Turbos?

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Facebook www.facebook.com 2000 c2 manual aero, could make a nice little holiday to the isle of man to collect it?

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Got the early edition barnacle sensors on the bumper too. Crikey, what was porsche thinking!

Was it bought from FGP ..?

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You’ve really got to wonder who on earth signed off those sensors haven’t you !

Mine has those sensors, i consider them as nostalgic i think it's because the first owner was a lady

(Retrieves foot from mouth ) For me nostalgia is w140 Mercedes Benz ‘parking aids’ If you’ve never seen them: My first week as a tech with them I thought someone had snapped the aerial off until I realised there was one on the other corner as well

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Crikey, cutting edge back in the day

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That's quite pretty.

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Horrible, spoils the car, first thing I would do was to source a solid bumper cover.

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I don't think Isle of Man is a big selling point - makes the deal a little bit more complicated

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Did the car come with seat covers? You may have bought my mother in law’s old car…

2001 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Manual (996) for sale by auction Check out this 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Manual (996) auction on PistonHeads. Stop dreaming. Start driving. www.pistonheads.com lovely motor!

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Great advert and food for thought on how to take pics when i come to sell mine

its amazing the difference in quality of picture when a professional photographer takes the pics V's some bloke with a potato camera phone

Great colour Nice looking car. Interesting gap in the service history but was a while a go and not much mileage done during that time. Will be interesting to see what it goes for.

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What does it cost if PH auction your car?

Best of luck recardo, sorry you’ve got to sell.

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the seller needs to pay for the photography, the winning bidder/buyer pays a fee to PH

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I see So how much is the photography? And What's the payer's fee to PH?

I don’t know about PH but I paid around £200 for professional photos when listing on Collecting Cars. Very worthwhile. And no selling fees

The .1 GT3 sold at iconic, if I understand correctly that figure is plus 15% buyers fee The .2 car didn’t sell.

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Sounds like someone got a good deal

I'd love a GT3 but I don't I would be the targetted buyer. I need two seats at the back.

My first time watching live, do these figures included commission ? Anyone know ? 40th anniversary sold

Yes 15% buyer fee on top of those hammer prices

Sold special wishes C4S

The .1 red GT3 is a minter, very good price to pick that up at.

I was surprised it didn't sell at Philip Raby's, was up for over £70k there for ages. Less than £59k at auction seems good value

What did the white 993 cab go for ?

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It's talk like this which confuses some people me included. I'm not sure where this magically 8k comes from. And it seems like a lot of people now have 8k in their head. Similarly the 20k number. I don't think 20k is a realistic number. I don't think there is anyone here who will honestly pay 20k for a simple 996 however perfect it is. Why do I say this? I mentioned recently that I have 2 x 996 which I want to sell. And this has resulted in a flurry of emails from some potential buyers. Great news or is it? I'm not sure. Most all go the same way. My friendly potential buyers asks some questions and then we get to a discussion about price. Which always goes the same way. The friendly potential buyers either want to pay 8k for my untidy car because that's what project cars are worth. Or they want to pay 20k for my CSR because another CSR sold for 20k recently. So either that's what these cars are worth. Or that's what people who PM about a car which isn't yet advertised want to pay. There is no discussion about how every car is different. There is just the friendly potential buyers idea of price and that's that. So I joined this discussion because I do have 2 x 996 cars I'm thinking about selling. And so I now have a feel for what people who tell me they are buyers want to pay via PM. Is this the market or is this only a small sub section of this forum looking for bargains. I dont know. But I guess I'll find out. Because there is no way I'm selling either of my cars for these numbers mentioned. Maybe I'm an evil seller trying to rip off any poor potential unsuspecting buyer.

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Looks like buyers fee is £695, from PH website auction t&c's

Have you put proper ads up for them both so all the details can be seen etc? Mines far from perfect but no way would i sell it for less than 15k There is a decent for sale section on this forum here https://911uk.com/forums/porsche-911-996-997-gen-cars-for-sale-wanted.24/

My opinion is £14-18k for a tidy 996 manual coupe that doesn't need much work. They are all 20+ years old now. £8k to me would buy a rusted unloved car with a broken engine....!!!!

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This is why classic auctions are increasingly in popularity.

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I paid less than £8k for mine (98 C2 Manual) . Engine fine , very little rust ( 1 tiny hole) Yes it's needed £3k on new parts to make it really good mechanically but I really enjoy doing that and I know it'll be good.

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You would think that would help, but from what i've seen on here so far, very few details have been provided, 1 car doesn't even an MOT, and a few bad photos - not exactly surprising that potential buyers aren't rushing to spend strong money.

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Just need to look at the market and what cars are for sale now and recently. If you keep an eye on the ads, £8k is a reasonable average starting price for a project car that needs work or no MOT. A well presented, clean, decent mileage 996.1 with a good history file and all the big jobs done is nearer £20k. Whether this is what tbey actually sell for is another matter, but you have to start somewhere.

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If that's a question for me - no - because I wasn't ready to sell no MOT etc.

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So this is the problem YOU All this talk from YOU about getting your car for 8 is setting the bar for everyone else to do better Put bluntly you are talking the Market down So please stop!!!

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I wonder with GT3’s, if you’ve got £60k plus for a 911 don’t you automatically get yourself an air cooled car?

Having an MOT on a car doesn't really make that much difference to the value of it. If the car is very nice and in excellent condition it can just go to the MOT station and obtain an MOT easily, If the car just scrapes though an MOT and is dog rough it's still a shed, both cars still hold the same value as to the condition they're in. It may make the shed easier to sell but less so regarding a 911. Condition is key.

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WTF are you talking about ? You're actually saying that I dictate the prices for UK 996's ...you need help

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Yup, that's how i see it unless you want a track car, 60k and above gives massive choice.

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Plus labour for those that aren't mechanically inclined.

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They are not so easy to live with. I had an 86 3.2 for over 20 years, and I much prefer driving my 996.

Car ads on PH, AT etc are no indication of the market. I’ve seen some that have been listed for 2-3 years!!!! Auction prices are the best indicator. I paid £13k for my C4S. I think no more than £15-20k is more realistic for most 996’s.

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A little bit of humour but you seem to have missed it

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Air cooled cars can eat money much much quicker than a 996 gt3 or not gt3. And I think younger guys don't really get the air cooled thing like older guys do.

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Clearly

I am one of the people who have enquired about your car ATM as I am looking for a 911. All I was asking for were details. I stated that it was worth 20k when you bought it in 2021 as it looked in good order. I can't tell what it is like now other than it's not run and been stood outside for over a year. If you post some details of your car other than saying it has a broken clutch what do you expect?

I’ve spent about 20k on re-building my rusty 10K 996 c2. these cars car eat money if in poor condition or parts wear out in your owner ship. That don’t cover an engine rebuild either which is going to be needed at some point.

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It's worth the investment into the car. They're great cars to drive. For me the 996/997 generation was what I played with as a kid in the form of toy cars and video games. I don't have that same connection with the air cooled cars and highly doubt that I would ever buy one. I do think the 993 Turbo is the best looking 911 followed by the 996 and 997 GT2.

Isn’t this the fundamental problem with the 996, they currently make no economic sense to restore, But not everything you do in life makes economic sense .. my life would be alot simpler if I was into cricket .. or maybe stamp collecting.. Train spotting that would be cheaper, thermos maybe a high viz ? I love a steam train ..

I am not sure there are many regular priced cars that actually make economic sense to repair/restore. You have to buy something rare and therefore expensive. But we dont do if for a potential profit - we do it because we like the marque/model and in my case enjoy the activity. I have brought two 996's up to mechanical snuff now and sold both at a loss over what I paid for them. But thoroughly enjoyed doing the work. I am looking forwards to having another 996 in a few years time when I will have more time to enjoy. Until then I will enjoy all of you guys activities.

Be interesting to see what this goes for at Matthewsons March auction - no details of what the recent spend was on and looks like the rust has got into the arches, definately not one to buy blind Lot 884 - 2003 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 2 Lot 884 - 2003 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 2 www.mathewsons.co.uk

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That could be a bargain!

Could be......? If it goes for the advised price of £5-5.5k it will be a huge bargain.... doubt it will though.

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goes to start the @Uncle Monty pricing podcast

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My mum has three horses. If you want something that makes no financial sense, look there. Makes a 911 seem good value.

I don't know if this one was posted 4 months ago when it went up for sale. The colour combination with the kline exhaust and pccm+ would've been a dream turbo for me. Makes me very tempted to respray mine in future:

That's exactly the same interior as mine except mine has a carbon centre console and PCM surround. Mine's a Basalt Black car but yes I agree , that green suits the Turbo so well. That photo 1/4 ...Such a good angle for a Turbo

What’s the trim colour called Monty ? Love the green …. Only green car I bought got written off, just like everyone warned me it would

Boxster Red My bro had an Oak Green Mk2 Golf Gti ...wonderful thing that was.

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Oh is it? Looks more cinnamon in the pictures ? Mine was an RS1800i fiesta, one lady owner, very rare car, it was immaculate.. was ..

mines boxster red too, best colour i think

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Shame, what happened ?

Young girl just passed her test didn’t stop at a giveaway, i just missed her but put myself through a huge flint garden wall. Everyone warned me no one sees green cars they blend into the scenery, if we have any insurance actuary’s on the forum maybe they could confirm ? I’ve often wondered if someone repaired it, I’ve never checked .. Worth a few quid now! Apologies for the Dagenham Dustbin tangent, as you were good Porsche folk Used 1994 FORD FIESTA for sale Check out this Ford Fiesta 1.8 RS 1800 Hatchback 3dr Petrol Manual (128 bhp) for sale on PistonHeads. Get in touch for more information or to take a test drive today! www.pistonheads.com

Cool little car Is there anything like that now that size? Fiat 500 Abarth ?

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Lol, the old days when 130BHP was a big deal

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Hindsight is a wonderful thing, a few years back i bought a 1989 Xr3i with 56k on it in showroom condition for £750 and sold it a bit later for £3,500 thinking i was the king of car sales - would be worth a lot more now

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Look out Mike Brewer ! Funny how things go ..

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Maybe Peak Hot Hatch ? Maybe they’d already peaked ? Went well, didn’t stop quite so good, hence using the wall Yeah maybe 500? The GR Yaris seems popular, Ive never driven one .. seems like a lifetime ago .. I had several Golf Mark 2 GTI IMHO it was hard to beat, though lots tried. I had a 205 gti but I dunno, French cars? The gear shift was like stirring cake mix ? Always came back to the Germans, got their faults but they tighten a bolt well ..

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I'm with you on the 205GtI gears

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ah, but the little pug GTi was light and nimble, whereas the mk2 golf gti was a heavy old lump in comparison - had both and would love to have either again at some point

Loved my 1.6L Pug... drove like on rails on eibachs..... my MR2 AW11 was an another level again....mid engined fun, bullet proof engine yet sadly the bodywork was made of rice paper.

Clio 172/182 Sport ? Trophy? Harry Metcalf used to have one but you don't see it anymore as well as the r129 SL600 he had in France.

You'd really want to have a 996 to spend £33k on one 1998 Porsche 911 Green Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive i... 1998 Porsche 911 Green Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in Bournemouth, United Kingdom - For Sale | Car & Classic, £33,000 ** NOW SOLD BU... www.carandclassic.com

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That's been for sale for ages..... gotta love the sellers profile too

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i did notice - not the sort of dealer i would usually purchase from

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Similar to that….. Years ago I bought a 240z in pretty solid condition for £600, and then sold it (probably within a year) for £1800 - thought I was billy big bollocks - what’s that worth now?

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I think it’s interesting to see it, if he’s a legitimate dealer broker in Porsche market he obviously thinks it’s something worth his time ? There was a chap on here with a beautiful early zenith blue car advertising for high twenties dunno if he ever sold it ?

Think he reduced it a few times too... think he's still got it.

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I'm spending £120k on mine, and yes I really want one. The seller of that car is the 911 and Porsche World Magazine resident expert on 911 prices in the UK.

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we'll see how good he is when/if he sells it - looks like he's had it since at least the beginning of November 2025 Yours is a slightly different proposition though Watching Guz Kahn's custom cars on Blaze last night has he was driving a 964 Restomod costing £750k!!!

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Should know his onions then ..

I think I’ve asked before, I don’t know what the ‘larger performance brakes’ are stated in the advertisement?

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I think you're getting him mixed up with Uncle Monty as he's the UK 911 price guru.

Apparently , according to some.

I do however think the 996 is the only next viable option for "restomodding" , to be able to buy entire coupe car for less than £15k is a huge incentive for a builder and for us to stamp our mark on them hopefully in a tasteful way. The lack of electronics and driver aids especially on the early ones makes it all so much easier. 964's and 993's are too expensive to start messing with and the 997 is too modern , especially the interior , i don't know what could be done with that centre infotainment panel and all those nasty buttons. I'm pretty sure prices will rise soon but won't go crazy , always below £30k for many more years. One thing for sure though , this year I'm going to look for a nice clean original unmolested 3.2 Boxster engine and start stripping it down ready for capacity increase rebuild. No rush , just do it over a year or two.

I'd agree with that, 996's are being used now for restomods. They really are easy to work on once one gets familiar with them i'd even say pretty basic and much easier to set up than any air cooled engine. No fancy tools needed ,all timing marks are on the crank pulley and cams it's one of the simplest engines i've ever worked on. The shock abs are easy to change, everything is easy so long as nothing is seized but that's the only downfall everything seizes if neglected. The 3.2 engine is a good idea i might do it too, although i think i'd just leave the capacity and have it for a spare in case of an engine grenade.

What is the useful parts of the 3.2 for a carerra engine? Longer stroke and different crank or something?

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Basically the same bar the piston size and where some of the mounts are located , the crankshaft is the same.

She’s back on autotrader for another go, with a higher price. Was on collecting cars but assume owner didn’t get what they wanted? Says selling because of ULEZ, lots of people have successfully got early 996 cars exempt, maybe this one won’t go through? Maybe the owner isn’t aware you can do it? https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403237886427?sort=price-asc&searchId=7f0b1dfb-2748-4174-aeda-f15fab75291f&make=Porsche&model=911&page=6&postcode=Kt205aa&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra=&backLinkQueryParams=channel%3Dcars%26make%3DPorsche%26model%3D911%26postcode%3DKt205aa%26sort%3Dprice-asc%26page%3D8%26flrfc%3D1&calc-deposit=1875&calc-term=48&calc-mileage=10000

ULEZ sounds like a feeble excuse - on the plus side, sensible miles and the owners house looks like a nice place to buy a car from. Virginia Water is a very affluent area Car looks very well presented and looked after. The grey interior kills it a bit for me - i know Porsche interiors were limited in colour choice back then and its a toss up between grey and savannah for not aging well. they seem to mark and wear more obviously. Hope he gets his money - need more examples making strong money to push the values of all our cars up

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Didn't this sell recently on CC...?

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My My Mechanics is restoring one on YT, probably one of the best restorations I've ever seen and I've seen a few. No doubt some will argue differently, until they watch the videos...

Rare spec with the GT3 seats, especially in the graphiti grey leather. Punchy price? Porsche 911 996 Carrera 4S Manual - Genuine GT3 seats - £10k of prep work completed - Friends Green Porsche www.friendsgreenporsche.com

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1 Have you got a link?

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Very well filmed. I believe he's Swiss, very talented and the attention to detail is astonishing, makes everything look so incredibly easy, especially the rear subframe, gearbox and driveshafts. He sells t shirts with "I make a new one"

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Yeah, I don’t get the pricing personally, as that’s into turbo money.

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10k of prep work! So was a ***** when they got it then... Unless it was it costed with a 9werks spreadsheet.

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It's only 10k because they say so, it seems they do have their own spreadsheet man.

It was the cost of the seats

Par for the course if you look on their website.... it's almost as if they just buy dogs, allegedly spend thousands and over price them when selling....... the devil is in the detail.... or not.

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No idea how you got to a number of 20k for its value in 2021 if you had no details then and now.

Holy Grail has had a bit of a write up on PH and prompted more debate. Interesting recently sold values mentioned in the comments too 'Holy grail' 911 Carrera (996) for sale Affordable 996s remain out there, but the very best ones only seem to be going one way... www.pistonheads.com

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Friends Green Porsche make nice videos if you Would someone pay extra for this god awful grey interior? I hope not

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That Datsun is in superb condition before the teardown..must be from Arizona or Japan. I want one now.

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Interesting.. begs the question, why’s holy grail not sold ?

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Basic spec, high price?

Tidy it seems to me C4S prices come back a bit ? 2002 Porsche 911 Silver Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive... 2002 Porsche 911 Silver Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in Barrow-in-Furness, United Kingdom - For Sale | Car & Classic, £20,000 This is... www.carandclassic.com

Your cars Italian cousin @Uncle Monty 996 strong money in Italy & France it seems? 1999 Porsche 911 Red Manual Left Hand Drive in Italy - Fo... 1999 Porsche 911 Red Manual Left Hand Drive in Italy - For Sale | Car & Classic, £33,975 **Porsche 996 Carrera (MANUALE)** _F A V O L O S... www.carandclassic.com

greeeen Looks very nice .. done some miles no mention of rebuild .. 2002 Porsche 911 Green Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive i... 2002 Porsche 911 Green Manual, 6 speed Right Hand Drive in Sheffield, United Kingdom - For Sale | Car & Classic, £36,999 A rare and remar... www.carandclassic.com

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That's really strong money!!!

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Saw that - hell of a premium just for green paint and some carbon?

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Now that is a stunning 996... !!!

Similar one on the new Werk96 video Does look good

The suspension set up on that werk 96. What is that exactly? That car is driving so well

Just googled what werk 96 is! That looks an expensive place to go

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Custom KW setup.

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996's really are something else on fancy suspension/ geo

Does this belong to anyone on here? eBay ad

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seen that being advertised on some of the FB groups - looks like a nice car but lack of history and previous issues will be off putting for many - at least the seller is honest about it all though

Could be a great project car..!!!

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I've phoned the seller and had a decent chat with him....serial 996 / 997 owner, also 992. Currently in a silver / nephrite 996 Turbo. Watch this space....!

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Seller of this said he was looking for minimum 11k - tempting! I quite like the interior but the 8 hour drive from there to Cairnryan for the boat is currently enough to put me off

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seems a bit high for a car with little history?

The history / background will put a lot of people off, depends your situation but if you need to sell it you’ll then go through the same thing .. springs coming should be lots of nice things advertised soon

If you buy it and want to swap the green interior for a black one, give me a call

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Sadly, only front and rear seats are nephrite...the rest is just black.

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thats the bits i would like