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Carmon Red C4S Manual - RX54 WGP

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Yes the car was sold new by Porsche Reading in 2005 and looking through the catalogues it seems as though Carmon Red replaced Orient Red in 2004.

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Yes the car was sold new by Porsche Reading in 2005 and looking through the catalogues it seems as though Carmon Red replaced Orient Red in 2004.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi all, New PCGB member here & relatively new first time Porsche owner. Purchased a Carmon Red C4S Manual last September and loving it so far. Just wondering if anyone knew of the above car - previous owner, history or if there is any other C4S coupe in the same colour.. Previous owner seemed to think it was a 1 of 1 and doing some research myself I could only find evidence of a C4S Cab that came up for sale a few years ago. Thanks for any info and looking forward to attending some 996 register events in the near future!

POST 2Original post

I don’t have an answer to your question but Carmon is an absolutely stunning colour

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Ha ha cheers mate, it does get a lot of compliments when I take it out

POST 4Original post

Try contacting your PCGB Register Secretary. He may be able to help.

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Hi Michal, Welcome to the group, your car looks fabulous. I assume you mean Carmine Red? I have seen references to Carmona red in the USA and I'm guessing its the same colour, just with an American spelling? I will look at the 996 register best I can, as some owners register their cars just as "Red" which covers the whole spectrum of Porsche paint colours. Best regards, Tony Murphy 996 Register Secretary

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Hi Tony, Thanks for offering to check that out for me. It’s actually Carmon Red - Carmine Red is a completely different colour and a brighter red. I believe this colour was named Carmon Red on the 2004-2005 996 Generation and then changed to Carmona Red for the 997 generation. CarmonaRot is the german official name for it now. Cheers Micheal

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Hi Micheal, Thanks for confirming that. I must point out I'm at a distinct disadvantage on this subject, as I am Red / Green colour blind! as my wife will confirm as I've made a few wrong paint colour choices over the years!! I will see what I can find regarding the car tomorrow. Best regards, Tony

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No worries Tony, Thanks for checking that out. Micheal

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Carmon must have been a special order colour, as it doesn't appear on the colour chart in the workshop manual. It has the look of a darker version of Arena Red to me. Lovely.

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Thanks for posting that colour order list.. that’s really interesting.. I thought it was a standard colour but not many cars had ordered in it. Is there a difference between special order colour and PTS? Or is it the same thing?

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After I posted that, it made me think. If you take a look at the 2004 996 brochure in the FAQ section, you will see that Carmon Red was a standard metallic paint option: https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/threads/996-brochures-price-lists.144676/ Page 113. Every day is a school day.

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Micheal, after looking at the UK members database, as feared a lot of member just list their cars as "Red". I have however located a 996 Turbo listed as Carmone red and one turbo in Carmine red. Thanks to Richard for his additional research above. Best regards, Tony

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I remember Carmon Red appearing and Orient Red (my 986 factory order) disappearing. As the RX registration originates in the Reading area, maybe this was originally a "Porsche management" car or a Reading demonstrator.

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Thanks for doing that search Tony - was worth a try. Looking through some old posts it looked like a member with the name dpoynton had a 996 in Carmon Red also although that was some years ago. Cheers Micheal

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Yes the car was sold new by Porsche Reading in 2005 and looking through the catalogues it seems as though Carmon Red replaced Orient Red in 2004.

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dpoynton is still a member on here. May be worth a PM to him?

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