Is a £10K 987 Boxster a pipe dream? - Page 5 - Boxster/Cayman - PistonHeads UK

I'm looking to take my first step into Porsche ownership and have set my sights on a 987 Boxster. I started out wanting an S, but have come to the conclusion that i might be better off with a 2.7. The problem is finding a decent one. So far i have been to see a couple of S's for around my £10K budget: The first was at a dealer and had been sitting for a few months judging by the thick layer of dust and the flat battery. We went out for a brief drive and it seemed okay, but had a fairly loud ticking at idle, like a hydraulic tappet type noise. The internet suggests this could be signs of an IMS issue, but according to the internet many, many things can be signs of an IMS failure. I saw a nice looking red S privately advertised on Sunday. It had a an MoT advisory for a power steering hose for the last couple of years, quite a few cosmetic issues and was overdue a major service, so could have cost a couple of £K to put right and still have the IMS threat looming. I've inquired about a couple at around the £11-12K mark that have been on the market for several months, hoping to maybe get a deal, but owners don't seem willing to negotiate at all (fair play to them) Based on this i'm thinking a decent S might well be outside of my budget. I'm thinking about a 2007 on 2.7 as they don't have as big of a problem with IMS bearings and there are far more available, but even here most cars on sale will probably need an immediate service and at least several £100s of work. So, am i deluding myself? Should i just buy a Z4? (I don't really want a Z4 like i want a Boxster though...)

Have a browse on here for Escy'st thread (2.7 Audi V6 twin turbo Boxster) and poppopbangbang's thread (1.8T 20v Boxster). If it goes bang, replace the engine. Life is too short.

Much more of a reader of the forums than a poster! I did exactly the same as you 3 years ago. Wife and I fancied a Boxster with a £10k budget to buy. Wanted an S initially but having seen some rough ones expanded the search to include 2.7s. I’d say buy on condition rather than engine size. 2.7 is perfect amount of power for our roads is a lovely thing to drive with a great noise. It needs to be over 4k revs to start making progress. From some time in 05 they put a larger IMS in that reduced failures. You can find engine numbers on line. In the 3 years spent about 2.5k on maintanence, a major and minor service, exhaust flanges blowing, window regulator and a brake line and all solid to flexi pipes. Main thing to look out for is if front coolant crossover pipes have been done as they all fail eventually and costs a grand. My 05 2.7 has never failed to start or left me stranded. Only other thing I have spent on is fitting a modern stereo with sat nav and surround. Makes it more usable for me. Bought this as a stepping stone to maybe spending £30k on a newer one but honestly cannot justify it, is a great car. Oh get one with heated seats if you can makes roof down in cold weather better!

Get one! My daughter, who is 20, recently bought a 2008 Boxster 2.7 with the sport design kit. She loves it and it's absolutely brilliant.

simonsti said: Get one! My daughter, who is 20, recently bought a 2008 Boxster 2.7 with the sport design kit. She loves it and it's absolutely brilliant. Blimey.... how much is her insurance????

robemcdonald said: I'm looking to take my first step into Porsche ownership and have set my sights on a 987 Boxster. I started out wanting an S, but have come to the conclusion that i might be better off with a 2.7. The problem is finding a decent one. So far i have been to see a couple of S's for around my £10K budget: The first was at a dealer and had been sitting for a few months judging by the thick layer of dust and the flat battery. We went out for a brief drive and it seemed okay, but had a fairly loud ticking at idle, like a hydraulic tappet type noise. The internet suggests this could be signs of an IMS issue, but according to the internet many, many things can be signs of an IMS failure. I saw a nice looking red S privately advertised on Sunday. It had a an MoT advisory for a power steering hose for the last couple of years, quite a few cosmetic issues and was overdue a major service, so could have cost a couple of £K to put right and still have the IMS threat looming. I've inquired about a couple at around the £11-12K mark that have been on the market for several months, hoping to maybe get a deal, but owners don't seem willing to negotiate at all (fair play to them) Based on this i'm thinking a decent S might well be outside of my budget. I'm thinking about a 2007 on 2.7 as they don't have as big of a problem with IMS bearings and there are far more available, but even here most cars on sale will probably need an immediate service and at least several £100s of work. So, am i deluding myself? Should i just buy a Z4? (I don't really want a Z4 like i want a Boxster though...) You'll certainly get a decent enough 2.7 for around 10k. A quick look on autotrader says there are 22 2.7's under 100k miles and under £10k so a fair amount of choice. Take a look at the Boxa forum, there is often a few enthusiast looked after cars for sale, you're likely to get a better example from there IMO. I think you've made the right decision to go for a nice 2.7 rather than a ropey S. The 3.2/3.4 engine is more powerful, but longer geared so you're pushing 90-100 at the top of 3rd gear. I bought an S, but in hindsight, I think i'd have been just as happy with a non-S. As for the Z4 yes, its cheaper, but for good reason. I've had 2 mates go from a Z4 -> Boxster as its just the better car. More storage space, better handling too

Orangecurry said: Blimey.... how much is her insurance???? Just less than £1000 on her own insurance.

simonsti said: Orangecurry said: Blimey.... how much is her insurance???? Just less than £1000 on her own insurance. Funny world insurance. I wanted to put my 19 year old on my Volvo as a named driver, best quote £2.5K Should just put him on the 911 insurance, would probably be cheaper

If you're new to Porsche you'll really not feel short changed by a base engined 987 Boxster. I've had numerous Boxsters/Caymans/911's...even a couple of panameras and they've all been S or 4S versions, except the last Boxster I had, which was a 2010 base 2.9 987 and I enjoyed it more than any of the previous Porsche. You can actually use the engine, rev it out and drive it aggressively without reaching the NSL in 2nd. They are awesome and I'm sure you'd not regret the purchase. As an aside, I traded it for a Z4 for my wife (long story, and I still grieve ). The Z4 doesn't even come close in terms of driving enjoyment. Don't know where you are in the country, but these guys can prep a Porsche nicely: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402176...

I sold my 2005 987 Boxster in 2020, 93k miles, seal grey with extended black leather, PCM with Bose, litronics and in really nice condition with FSH, nearly new PS4s all round and new discs and pads up front and the rears done about 5k miles previously. Sold it for £6,700, loads were for sale around the same price. Great car. Looking on Autotrader there are plenty on there. Buy one for £7k and spend the other £3k on suspension done and any other bits.

I bought a 986S off eBay back in May 2021 and one trick I missed at the time was that I didn't join the various FB groups until after I'd bought the car. Don't get me wrong, they're chock-full of all the usual single marque FB group suspects, but cars do turn up for sale occasionally that seem to have had all the right jobs done and there appears to be a genuine reason for sale. Worth joining the various relevant groups and keeping an eye out.

Thanks for the advice. Looks as though a 2.7 could be the car for me. I was worried I’d feel short changed compared to an S, but based on some of the comments here I think the base car might suit me better. I believe the later cars have a revised (non serviceable) IMS and the failure rate is very low Any opinions on this? Also am I allowed to link to cars I’m looking at for an opinion? I don’t want to upset the mods.

I'd hold out for an S personally, there's not really much difference in price between a 2.7 and 3.2 and you don't want to spend more time/money in the future itching for an upgrade of those extra ccs. £10k will buy you a nice example if you want to send a DM

I really wouldn't worry about IMS on a 987..almost all have the revised solution incorporated in the build by Porsche.

Go for it, may be worth to wait and see what comes up to market and be ready to pounce on that newly advertised car quick, I managed to get a 2009 987 Gen2 S for 10,8k last year on this basis. No IMS issues to be concerned with and almost within your budget, be patient and don't rush. Might be worth considering getting a Pre-purchase inspection done too to help prevent any major headaches.

A chap on here went for a cheap 986 and got a PPI thinking that would help, if you read his thread, it didn't at all and left no come back. A PPI might be nice to have but it misses lots of key things and has no guarantees or coverage should something go wrong. Not saying a 10k 987 is the same scenario, but the value of a PPI is pretty limited, especially as most of them dont even lift the car off the ground. For that I would be more inclined to buy a crate of beer for a local Porsche owner to take a look with me. Good luck with the hunt. I was considering a Porsche but ended up in the Z4 camp, half the price and low maintenance costs convinced me that was the way to go at the time even if it wasn't the dynamic drive a Porsche is.

I have a £3k 986 that hasn't put a foot wrong £10k is loadsa money

I have a 2005 987 2.7 tiptronic that I bought almost 7 years ago for £4.5k. 130k mikes, no service history, lots of scratches. Everything that people tell you to avoid. But if I’d listened I wouldn’t have bought it, and I bloody love it. It’s cost an average of about £1k per annum for maintenance, although I would say that around half the overall sum is for items that are age related and could have happened if I’d spent 2-3 times the purchase price.

simonsti said: Just less than £1000 on her own insurance. My 19 year old son has had his Cayman 2.7 for about a year, and he paid just over the £1000 for his own insurance. It’s amazingly cheap, although renewal time is due next month. The 2.7 (2007 model, 5-speed manual) is a scalpel of a car - it’s a wonderful device.

robemcdonald said: I'm looking to take my first step into Porsche ownership and have set my sights on a 987 Boxster. I have PM'd you.

I think i'd be more worried about bore scoring on a 987.1 S than the IMS. On the flipside, the tappet-y noise was probably sticky lifters from having been sat around too long. A good Italian tune-up usually clears those (although, in the right circumstances i.e. someone who is non-specialist, you might be able to use that 'worry' to your advantage, price-wise) and i've experienced it on a few that i've test driven. The 2.7 is a terrific lump. Although it tends to be 5pd only, 3rd is all the gear you'll need on some roads. It is quite long and that engine really changes character aurally as you push it up through the RPM. I do agree that an S is within range of your budget but i'd be more concerned about scoring on one of those vs the 2.7 for some reason. A lot i've seen at sub-£10k have been a little ratty and make me think that they've been offloaded due to impending doom. Last year, before going for a Z4 35i, I test drove a £9,995 2005 3.2S which was absolutely immaculate and had had a £11k engine rebuild the year before. It had been a makeweight in a deal for a Ferrari FF but it does show that with patience you can get a stonker for your budget. Edited by KPB1973 on Wednesday 28th February 15:11

KPB1973 said: I think i'd be more worried about bore scoring on a 987.1 S than the IMS. On the flipside, the tappet-y noise was probably sticky lifters from having been sat around too long. A good Italian tune-up usually clears those (although, in the right circumstances i.e. someone who is non-specialist, you might be able to use that 'worry' to your advantage, price-wise) and i've experienced it on a few that i've test driven. The 2.7 is a terrific lump. Although it tends to be 5pd only, 3rd is all the gear you'll need on some roads. It is quite long and that engine really changes character aurally as you push it up through the RPM. I do agree that an S is within range of your budget but i'd be more concerned about scoring on one of those vs the 2.7 for some reason. A lot i've seen at sub-£10k have been a little ratty and make me think that they've been offloaded due to impending doom. Last year, before going for a Z4 35i, I test drove a £9,995 2005 3.2S which was absolutely immaculate and had had a £11k engine rebuild the year before. It had been a makeweight in a deal for a Ferrari FF but it does show that with patience you can get a stonker for your budget. Edited by KPB1973 on Wednesday 28th February 15:11 Interesting, why did the 3.2 need the engine rebuilt? The 3.2's are meant to be less succeptible to the dreaded borescore

My research suggests bore score only happens on cars with forged pistons. So not the 2.7 or 3.2 . Anyway I’m going to look at a couple of very nice looking cars on Friday, so will report back.

Crudeoink said: KPB1973 said: I think i'd be more worried about bore scoring on a 987.1 S than the IMS. On the flipside, the tappet-y noise was probably sticky lifters from having been sat around too long. A good Italian tune-up usually clears those (although, in the right circumstances i.e. someone who is non-specialist, you might be able to use that 'worry' to your advantage, price-wise) and i've experienced it on a few that i've test driven. The 2.7 is a terrific lump. Although it tends to be 5pd only, 3rd is all the gear you'll need on some roads. It is quite long and that engine really changes character aurally as you push it up through the RPM. I do agree that an S is within range of your budget but i'd be more concerned about scoring on one of those vs the 2.7 for some reason. A lot i've seen at sub-£10k have been a little ratty and make me think that they've been offloaded due to impending doom. Last year, before going for a Z4 35i, I test drove a £9,995 2005 3.2S which was absolutely immaculate and had had a £11k engine rebuild the year before. It had been a makeweight in a deal for a Ferrari FF but it does show that with patience you can get a stonker for your budget. Edited by KPB1973 on Wednesday 28th February 15:11 Interesting, why did the 3.2 need the engine rebuilt? The 3.2's are meant to be less succeptible to the dreaded borescore Possibly IMS related with it being an earlier 987. The reason given to me was that the owner was a perfectionist and wanted it done irrespective of cost. Bearing in mind he'd bought an FF from the dealer, it's not beyond reason.

OP - could be worth getting an inspection done if you want a mechanical once-over & even for the borescope issues, most can condict the relevant tests to see if the cylinders have these issues. Porsche inspection are mobile & cover most of the South, or most of the Porsche indies will do a check for you either at their hourly labour rate or fixed price

SV_WDC said: OP - could be worth getting an inspection done if you want a mechanical once-over & even for the borescope issues, most can condict the relevant tests to see if the cylinders have these issues. Porsche inspection are mobile & cover most of the South, or most of the Porsche indies will do a check for you either at their hourly labour rate or fixed price A proper 'proper' inspection is worth it. But do avoid the FB 'i will do it for a few hundred quid' brigade, if you message tameracingdriver he will let you know who!

The 2.7 is a cracking engine just don't expect it to be a rocket. Needs about 4500rpm and up if you really want to shift which can be a bit of a pain if you're trying to overtake a car with limited opportunity but that occasionally aside, it is an absolute pleasure to wring its neck. I much preferred how mine felt on 17" wheels, more communicative and still loads of grip. Loved the pedal set up for heel and toe but would have preferred shorter gearing to go with the fairly peaky engine to make the most of it as second and third are on the long side.

An MY06-08 non-S is said to be the safest option. https://lnengineering.com/products/the-definitive-... My 06 2.7 cost me nothing over the 3 years I had it. Great car. My R53 cost me more to run! But it is important to buy a well maintained example. A neglected one with common issues that have been stacking up, will cost you in the long run. Rusty radiators/condensers can be an issue in the UK. The lifter noise is common if it has been sat for a while. Best of luck.

Thanks all for the useful insight. I went to see and purchased a 2007 2.7 yesterday. It needs a pretty good clean, but has been well maintained with works carried out when required and never missed a service. There are a few minor cosmetic issues; the odd stone chip, some light scratches in the clear coat and the worst is a small (5p) sized dent in the bonnet. I’m going to contact a paintless dent repair company about that today. When I can I will get some paint correction done. The worst part was the car smelled of Indian food in the cockpit (not the end of the world) I bought an air con bomb on the way home and that seems to have resolved that issue. So, here it is. My daughters are already planning to steal it and go for it a road trip.

Great stuff OP - always good to see an outcome to these sorts of threads.

This is the little dent I was talking about. 5p coin for scale. The dent is tiny but is really noticeable in certain light. I’m taking it to a paintless dent repair place locally at lunch time for them to take a look. Hopefully it’s an easy fix and they might even be able to do a machine polish too.

Wouldn't mind finding one myself, trying to see if I can warrant a 981S, over the past few years I've started to WFH and my mrs takes the car to work, GTD Estate and I've been thinking about getting myself a car but not sure if I'd drive it enough. Got my sights set on the 981 but a 987 could be a good tester to see if I'd use it enough to justify spending more! Anyone seeing any more peaches I can just impulse buy? haha

J89eu said: Wouldn't mind finding one myself, trying to see if I can warrant a 981S, over the past few years I've started to WFH and my mrs takes the car to work, GTD Estate and I've been thinking about getting myself a car but not sure if I'd drive it enough. Got my sights set on the 981 but a 987 could be a good tester to see if I'd use it enough to justify spending more! Anyone seeing any more peaches I can just impulse buy? haha Drop me a DM, I've got a well sorted 987 2.7 for sale

Found myself with a free afternoon today, so I gave it a quick wash. It came up okay. I’m taking it to AMS in Kimpton for a health check on Saturday. Fingers crossed…

Is that a Miniature Poodle I see?

The dog? It’s a Cavapoochon. Like a miniature poodle but significantly more expensive.

robemcdonald said: Found myself with a free afternoon today, so I gave it a quick wash. I’m taking it to AMS in Kimpton for a health check on Saturday. Fingers crossed… That looks very nice indeed.

CanAm said: robemcdonald said: Found myself with a free afternoon today, so I gave it a quick wash. I’m taking it to AMS in Kimpton for a health check on Saturday. Fingers crossed… That looks very nice indeed. Thanks There are a lot on odd scratches on some of the panels. But I’m going to have a go at polishing it myself. I’ve been watching YouTube tutorials and have bought myself a DA. I was going to pay someone to do it, but the fact all the tutorials basically say the same thing I’m pretty confident. I will post some progress shots when I do it.

DAs are pretty good, if you have a daily then practice on that first. Basically dont be tempted to over do it with the polish you put on you don't need much and do small sections at a time. And use a proper correction polish that isn't loaded with fillers. I also bought myself a cordless spot polisher, is an orbital but its great for dark coloured cars that invariably show up very minor scratches etc.

coldel said: DAs are pretty good, if you have a daily then practice on that first. Basically dont be tempted to over do it with the polish you put on you don't need much and do small sections at a time. And use a proper correction polish that isn't loaded with fillers. I also bought myself a cordless spot polisher, is an orbital but its great for dark coloured cars that invariably show up very minor scratches etc. My daily cost 4 times what I paid for the Porsche.. I’m going to go very easy on it medium pad and compound only. I need to figure out some sort of ceramic coat for afterwards though.

robemcdonald said: My daily cost 4 times what I paid for the Porsche.. I’m going to go very easy on it medium pad and compound only. I need to figure out some sort of ceramic coat for afterwards though. Ha fair enough, practice on the Porsche! Yep go with the least aggressive first to see if that does the job There are tonnes of LSP out there now, it used to be a case of stick on some hard wax from a tub but it now ranges from expensive ceramic applications to something simple like a spray on jobbie. I would always consider the value of the car vs what I spend on LSPs

coldel said: robemcdonald said: My daily cost 4 times what I paid for the Porsche.. I’m going to go very easy on it medium pad and compound only. I need to figure out some sort of ceramic coat for afterwards though. Ha fair enough, practice on the Porsche! Yep go with the least aggressive first to see if that does the job There are tonnes of LSP out there now, it used to be a case of stick on some hard wax from a tub but it now ranges from expensive ceramic applications to something simple like a spray on jobbie. I would always consider the value of the car vs what I spend on LSPs Errr what’s an LSP?

robemcdonald said: Errr what’s an LSP? Oh sorry, last step protection

robemcdonald said: I thought you were after a cheap one and you've bought a Ruf.

VladD said: robemcdonald said: I thought you were after a cheap one and you've bought a Ruf. When I was a kid he would have been called a mongrel and cost £25 from the rspca. 2020 considerably more…..

Jezzah said: Drop me a DM, I've got a well sorted 987 2.7 for sale Hi, got a link to the advert for the 987 or has it been sold. Thanks

I forgot to update. I took the car to AMS Porsche on Saturday. Firstly what a place! Amazing workshop full of interesting bits and pieces and some pretty lovely cars too. Angus is an absolutely top bloke. He put the car up of a two post and proceeded to talk me around the car with his observations. The main issue is there is a bit of a coolant leak at the from the back and the cross over pipes at the front whilst not leaking are showing signs of corrosion. Also a couple of the coil packs are starting to crack. It’s booked in to have these bits sorted in the middle of April. The only other thing is the RMS seal is a bit wet. I think the clutch will need replacing soon, so I’m going to wait and get the RMS done then (sometime later in the year) then the car has an absolutely clean bill of health.

How much is all that setting you back if you dont mind my asking? I guess it helps to see what bills potentially come with a cheaper Porsche.

Not cheap when compared with an equivalent 6 cylinder BMW. 2 radiators and air con condensers plus associated pipework etc. don't help in keeping costs down.

So the coolant and coil pack bits is going to be around £1500 The clutch and RMS about £900 Not cheap, but that really all the car needs. It would be unusual to pick up a 17 year old boxster that didn’t need a couple of £k work. That was factored in to my purchase and will just about take me over the £10k (by £500 ish) Then other than normal servicing I should have at least a few years of cheapish motoring..

I've sold mine, it goes to the new owner tomorrow. £22,000 worth of bills in the file:

paulguitar said: I've sold mine, it goes to the new owner tomorrow. £22,000 worth of bills in the file: How much did it go for?

ATM said: How much did it go for? £8k.

I took my first tentative step into paint correction today. Snow-foam then wash followed by clay bar and then DA polish. still a few scratches left, I will probably try again with a more aggressive compound in a few weeks when I get another chance. The good news is there were no disasters and I got a bit of confidence.

robemcdonald said: I forgot to update. I took the car to AMS Porsche on Saturday. Firstly what a place! Amazing workshop full of interesting bits and pieces and some pretty lovely cars too. Angus is an absolutely top bloke. He put the car up of a two post and proceeded to talk me around the car with his observations. The main issue is there is a bit of a coolant leak at the from the back and the cross over pipes at the front whilst not leaking are showing signs of corrosion. Also a couple of the coil packs are starting to crack. It’s booked in to have these bits sorted in the middle of April. The only other thing is the RMS seal is a bit wet. I think the clutch will need replacing soon, so I’m going to wait and get the RMS done then (sometime later in the year) then the car has an absolutely clean bill of health. Ships in the night. My Cayman is at AMS at the moment having an LSD fitted and some brake settlement. Car looks lovely and I'm sure it will serve you well!

This looks good https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156155777277

At Manor Park Classic auction on 13th April, a 2005 987S, 85k miles, in speed yellow. Guide price is £8500: https://www.manorparkclassics.com/auction/lot/lot-... Edited by sixor8 on Wednesday 10th April 21:17

Well. I picked up the car from AMS today. Cross over pipes, coil packs and 4 wheel alignment completed (not sure it really needed the alignment. Better safe than sorry and cheaper than new tyres I ) The £1600 bill is definitely the downside of Porsche ownership though. Hopefully no bills until next year now…

I bought myself a little Mercedes Sprinter Van. In 2 years its had 1000 on prop and bushes. 350 on fan belt and pulleys and MAF. 2250 on new inlet manifold, ABS pump and Something else. I hardly even use the thing. So in comparison it's been more spendy than your average Porsche and definitely made me question the cost of these sort of things. I usually DIY the Porsche but outright refuse to get involved in tinkering with a Van.

robemcdonald said: Well. I picked up the car from AMS today. Cross over pipes, coil packs and 4 wheel alignment completed (not sure it really needed the alignment. Better safe than sorry and cheaper than new tyres I ) The £1600 bill is definitely the downside of Porsche ownership though. Hopefully no bills until next year now… I guess one was a luxury and the others a necessary - how much was the cross over pipe, it must have been north of 800 quid or something? When they did the alignment, they should have provided a pre and post work chart with readings so you can see if it was really worth it?

robemcdonald said: Well. I picked up the car from AMS today. Cross over pipes, coil packs and 4 wheel alignment completed (not sure it really needed the alignment. Better safe than sorry and cheaper than new tyres I ) The £1600 bill is definitely the downside of Porsche ownership though. Hopefully no bills until next year now… A friend has just been quoted £1600 to replace the DPF in his Vauxhall (I suggested an Italian tune-up). I think you got a lot more value for money.

paulguitar said: I've sold mine, it goes to the new owner tomorrow. £22,000 worth of bills in the file: Well that's put me off !!

SimonTheSailor said: paulguitar said: I've sold mine, it goes to the new owner tomorrow. £22,000 worth of bills in the file: Well that's put me off !! This is over the 19-year life of the car. One of these that hasn't had that sort of spend on it has been neglected. Mine was a particularly cherished example, I think I let it go for too little at £8k.

Oh ok, that sounds a lot better !!

SimonTheSailor said: Oh ok, that sounds a lot better !! Yeah, it sounds scary when it's added up, but it's not really, considering it's over such a long period. Servicing is every two years and is usually pushing (or slightly into) four figures, but a lot of the bills other than that have been for Michelin Pilot Sports. Those really add up!

CanAm said: robemcdonald said: Well. I picked up the car from AMS today. Cross over pipes, coil packs and 4 wheel alignment completed (not sure it really needed the alignment. Better safe than sorry and cheaper than new tyres I ) The £1600 bill is definitely the downside of Porsche ownership though. Hopefully no bills until next year now… A friend has just been quoted £1600 to replace the DPF in his Vauxhall (I suggested an Italian tune-up). I think you got a lot more value for money. So, I'm not suggesting i have been ripped off. Far from it. its just a bit more than I really wanted to spend on a car i just bought, but those are the breaks. A bit of an issue today though as it seems to have lost a lot of coolant, so need to investigate after work. Maybe its an airlock maybe something wasn't put back or tightened properly.... We shall see.

Here’s the alignment report. Looks like it did need doing I guess.

The car took about another 3 litres of coolant. Went out for a quick drive everything seems okay, heater gets hot. Looks like it was probably an airlock.

robemcdonald said: Here’s the alignment report. Looks like it did need doing I guess. Quite common this. Everytime I get a Porsche and then get an alignment they're well out or all over the place.

robemcdonald said: I took my first tentative step into paint correction today. Snow-foam then wash followed by clay bar and then DA polish. still a few scratches left, I will probably try again with a more aggressive compound in a few weeks when I get another chance. The good news is there were no disasters and I got a bit of confidence. Looks great. I’ve had my 3.2s for 4.5 years now and paid £10.7k for it with 65k miles on the clock. Shamefully I have done about 3k miles in that time. Tyres are expensive and I’ve had a couple of big bills but nothing largely scary. Mine needs a few quid spending on it this year which I have started, just time needed now to tinker. Will update my readers car thread at some point. Edit - nearly 5.5 years! Where has the time gone. Edited by sc0tt on Tuesday 23 April 21:27

Had a look around a 63 plate Boxster at a colleagues house - they're big aren't they ?! Had an idea they were more of a smaller/sportier little number - this is not a derogatory remark - just an observation. Explains why they are valued for their boot space/s - probably make a brilliant touring car ? Are they heavy ? Do they feel nimble/sporty ? Or more of a solid/planted drive ?

SimonTheSailor said: Had a look around a 63 plate Boxster at a colleagues house - they're big aren't they ?! Had an idea they were more of a smaller/sportier little number - this is not a derogatory remark - just an observation. Explains why they are valued for their boot space/s - probably make a brilliant touring car ? Are they heavy ? Do they feel nimble/sporty ? Or more of a solid/planted drive ? In my opinion very solid and planted. I’ve had nimble (Fiesta ST / polo GTI) but the assisted steering on these probably made them feel lighter. The boxster feels very analogue in comparison. A much better drive if you are going for a drive. If I am popping to the local supermarket though i’ll take the polo.

SimonTheSailor said: Had a look around a 63 plate Boxster at a colleagues house - they're big aren't they ?! Had an idea they were more of a smaller/sportier little number - this is not a derogatory remark - just an observation. Explains why they are valued for their boot space/s - probably make a brilliant touring car ? Are they heavy ? Do they feel nimble/sporty ? Or more of a solid/planted drive ? I suppose they’re big compared to a mini.. it depends what you’re comparing it to. My 987 is 4.3m long and 1.8m wide and weighs 1300kg. A BMW Z4 of a similar age is roughly the same width and around 20cm shorter and weighs a bit more. An MX5 is about 4m long and 1.7m wide, but weighs a lot less (200kg) They’re all in roughly the same ballpark though.

SimonTheSailor said: Had a look around a 63 plate Boxster at a colleagues house - they're big aren't they ?! Had an idea they were more of a smaller/sportier little number - this is not a derogatory remark - just an observation. Explains why they are valued for their boot space/s - probably make a brilliant touring car ? Are they heavy ? Do they feel nimble/sporty ? Or more of a solid/planted drive ? I've just gone from a 2005 2.7 to a 2013 Boxster S. The 981 does feel a bit bigger. It's a big step forward, much more modern inside and in my opinion much better to look at. The 987 was lovely but fairly anonymous, the 981 turns heads and has kids pointing and giving thumbs up, etc. They are both brilliant to drive. The 987 has better steering, with its hydraulic system, while the 981 has an electric set-up. The 315BHP of the 981S is a big step from the 245 of the 2.7 987. My 987: [url] |https://forums- images.pistonheads.com/429578/202404243332932[/url] My 981S: It's worth pointing out that the new one cost more than three times as much as the old one. The 987 is an outrageous bargain.

Thanks for the feedback Still looking......

sc0tt said: SimonTheSailor said: Had a look around a 63 plate Boxster at a colleagues house - they're big aren't they ?! Had an idea they were more of a smaller/sportier little number - this is not a derogatory remark - just an observation. Explains why they are valued for their boot space/s - probably make a brilliant touring car ? Are they heavy ? Do they feel nimble/sporty ? Or more of a solid/planted drive ? In my opinion very solid and planted. I’ve had nimble (Fiesta ST / polo GTI) but the assisted steering on these probably made them feel lighter. The boxster feels very analogue in comparison. A much better drive if you are going for a drive. If I am popping to the local supermarket though i’ll take the polo. I jumped from 987 to 718 recently (Cayman S in each case). I would say that while they are very stable, both feel plenty sporty and nimble enough, no issues with that and there are few cars that change direction as well. But I agree with Scott about the 987 feeling analogue, the later car is a better overall package but slightly more detached and significantly more digital feeling to drive. 987s are a bargain car at around £10k but as has been highlighted, they can spit out four figure bills for fun which for me made the later cars stack up on a bit of man maths . The old and the new -

996 is lowered a lot. 981 has the higher passive standard dampers. The 981 really is quite slab sided if you look at it. Possibly for pedestrian safety regs.

I may be looking to get into a 987S in the coming month or so. I've owned a Range Rover, so big bills don't scare me too much. Is the prevailing wisdom still that at lower budgets (£13-14k) the 3.2 is probably the better bet on account of bore scoring risk, albeit a small risk? Anyone here fancy selling me a beautiful 3.2S that they've sunk a small fortune into over the past few years?

Dave200 said: I may be looking to get into a 987S in the coming month or so. I've owned a Range Rover, so big bills don't scare me too much. Is the prevailing wisdom still that at lower budgets (£13-14k) the 3.2 is probably the better bet on account of bore scoring risk, albeit a small risk? Anyone here fancy selling me a beautiful 3.2S that they've sunk a small fortune into over the past few years? You shouldn’t struggle with that budget. If you go for an S get one that has had the IMS done and you should be good.

robemcdonald said: Dave200 said: I may be looking to get into a 987S in the coming month or so. I've owned a Range Rover, so big bills don't scare me too much. Is the prevailing wisdom still that at lower budgets (£13-14k) the 3.2 is probably the better bet on account of bore scoring risk, albeit a small risk? Anyone here fancy selling me a beautiful 3.2S that they've sunk a small fortune into over the past few years? You shouldn’t struggle with that budget. If you go for an S get one that has had the IMS done and you should be good. The number I've seen without basics like heated seats and Bose at this price is very frustrating. Patience required.

Why can't 981's come down more? A manual S ticks the box nicely.

Patrick Bateman said: Why can't 981's come down more? A manual S ticks the box nicely. What's your budget? I know of a very nice 2,7 for sale at very sensible money.

Oh I'm not properly looking, I just like to keep an eye on potential future purchases and these are still far above what I'd pay. I couldn't stomach the loss in depreciation that comes with using a 25 grand car for decent miles.

Patrick Bateman said: Oh I'm not properly looking, I just like to keep an eye on potential future purchases and these are still far above what I'd pay. I couldn't stomach the loss in depreciation that comes with using a 25 grand car for decent miles. I've just bought a £25k 981 Boxster S. It's worth it!

I'm more comfortable with my losses on a £10.5k XKR doing 10-12k miles a year.

Dave200 said: Anyone here fancy selling me a beautiful 3.2S that they've sunk a small fortune into over the past few years? I sold my ‘05 3.2S for £15k in Feb ‘22 and I had spent the required small fortune on it. The new owner got a lot of enjoyment out of it bar the need for a failed water pump. Just need to be patient as cars are out there and prices have softened from when I sold mine.

evojam said: paulguitar said: I've just bought a £25k 981 Boxster S. It's worth it! I'd be very interested to hear your direct comparisons between the 981S and the 987 2.7 as a long term Boxster 987 2.7 owner.I had a 981 2.7 for a day and was a bit underwhelmed by it tbh,very competent car though but guess the 981S is a different kettle of fish? They are very different cars. The 981 feels much more up-to-date, the interior is a huge step up and the exterior styling is much more dramatic. The 315 BHP vs 245 of the 987 makes it a much faster car. The steering is not quite as talkative, but not dull enough to be a problem. The 981 is quite a lot more refined, and the gearchange and ride are noticeably better. That said, I'd still like to own a 987 2.7 as well. The induction sound can be laugh-out-loud amazing, and they have a certain tactile quality that the 981 lacks. In summary, both are brilliant cars, but I am pleased I made the step up. My particular car has a striking colour combination and it feels genuinely special every time I drive it.

I'm sure I watched some Chris Harris videos at the time saying the bigger engine really was the one to go for in the 981.

Patrick Bateman said: I'm sure I watched some Chris Harris videos at the time saying the bigger engine really was the one to go for in the 981. I'm very pleased I went the whole way and bought the 3.4. They also tend to have been better specced by wealthier original owners. Mine has £12,000 worth of extra bits. But no climate control.

Britain's Cheapest Boxster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjlDgVVgTDM&t=... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90UV2qQnC6E&t=...

paulguitar said: SimonTheSailor said: Had a look around a 63 plate Boxster at a colleagues house - they're big aren't they ?! Had an idea they were more of a smaller/sportier little number - this is not a derogatory remark - just an observation. Explains why they are valued for their boot space/s - probably make a brilliant touring car ? Are they heavy ? Do they feel nimble/sporty ? Or more of a solid/planted drive ? I've just gone from a 2005 2.7 to a 2013 Boxster S. The 981 does feel a bit bigger. It's a big step forward, much more modern inside and in my opinion much better to look at. The 987 was lovely but fairly anonymous, the 981 turns heads and has kids pointing and giving thumbs up, etc. They are both brilliant to drive. The 987 has better steering, with its hydraulic system, while the 981 has an electric set-up. The 315BHP of the 981S is a big step from the 245 of the 2.7 987. My 987: [url] |https://forums- images.pistonheads.com/429578/202404243332932[/url] My 981S: It's worth pointing out that the new one cost more than three times as much as the old one. The 987 is an outrageous bargain. As for the difference in public reactions, I think that's likely due to the difference in colour combinations rather than the difference between 987 and 981. The deep blue of the 981 just really stands out, especially in with the light interior, a beautiful colour combination.

I was impressed with the 981 but decided to keep the 987 as I prefer the looks and have driven down to Italy many times over the 11 years or so I've owned it covering some great driving roads with some epic drives so there's real sentimental value in there now,that said If the chance to own a 981 Boxster GTS manual came up would jump into one of those but would still keep the trusty 987!

evojam said: I was impressed with the 981 but decided to keep the 987 as I prefer the looks and have driven down to Italy many times over the 11 years or so I've owned it covering some great driving roads with some epic drives so there's real sentimental value in there now,that said If the chance to own a 981 Boxster GTS manual came up would jump into one of those but would still keep the trusty 987! That's a lovely colour, what was it called on the 987 generation?

DarkVeil said: As for the difference in public reactions, I think that's likely due to the difference in colour combinations rather than the difference between 987 and 981. The deep blue of the 981 just really stands out, especially in with the light interior, a beautiful colour combination. Yes, I think that's a good point. I also think though that the 981 resolved some styling issues, particularly at the back of the car.

paulguitar said: That's a lovely colour, what was it called on the 987 generation? Lapis blue,really pops in direct sunlight and the colour I specifically wanted when I was hunting for a 987.

evojam said: I was impressed with the 981 but decided to keep the 987 as I prefer the looks and have driven down to Italy many times over the 11 years or so I've owned it covering some great driving roads with some epic drives so there's real sentimental value in there now,that said If the chance to own a 981 Boxster GTS manual came up would jump into one of those but would still keep the trusty 987! My wife loves the idea of an Italy trip. Can you tell me where you went? I need a few ideas for our own roadtrip.

So, I have saved up to get the wheels refunded. They’re not that bad, but could use a bit of TLC. Here’s the thing I am thinking about Arum gold and maybe doing the side vents in the same colour. Is this madness? Talk me out of it. A reminder of the current look.

Half arsed photoshop of what it might look like

Looks a bit JPS Lotus. What about bronze?

robemcdonald said: Half arsed photoshop of what it might look like I bought Zunsport grilles and painted them to match the wheels. I painted the original side vents black so that the slats couldn't be seen. Just an alternative thought to painting the vents. As above, bronze might be nicer than gold.

I would definitely keep them in the original colour.

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robemcdonald said: I prefer that to the gold.

I've had 4 sets of wheels done in Gold recently and they all look different. It seems there are hundreds of different Golds. These are my favourite - as in the Gold part is the best Gold if that makes sense. So be careful asking for Gold. You need to be very specific. I don't know how to say this without sounding like an idiot but Gold is good but the other variations are not. So how do you define Gold - dont know.

I think I am going to stick with the standard colour to be honest.

On black I like the Porsche colour called Weiss Gold. Quite subtle.

ATM said: On black I like the Porsche colour called Weiss Gold. Quite subtle. That does look good

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Aurum gold in Satin finish - so not gloss

Steve H said: I jumped from 987 to 718 recently (Cayman S in each case). I would say that while they are very stable, both feel plenty sporty and nimble enough, no issues with that and there are few cars that change direction as well. But I agree with Scott about the 987 feeling analogue, the later car is a better overall package but slightly more detached and significantly more digital feeling to drive. 987s are a bargain car at around £10k but as has been highlighted, they can spit out four figure bills for fun which for me made the later cars stack up on a bit of man maths . The old and the new - [url][thumb]https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/107278/202404253140648? resize=720[/thumb]|https://forums-images.pistonheads.com/107278/202404253140648[/url] They look great, currently very tempted by 987's. Just out of interest what year and millage was the the old one on ? As I've seen a car that's looks very similar to it for sale at a trader in Mansfield on Autotrader and was wondering if it's your old one.

Barrie c 66 said: They look great, currently very tempted by 987's. Just out of interest what year and millage was the the old one on ? As I've seen a car that's looks very similar to it for sale at a trader in Mansfield on Autotrader and was wondering if it's your old one. 06 with just over 100k on it, went to private buyer so I would be surprised if it was up for sale again but you never know.

Steve H said: 06 with just over 100k on it, went to private buyer so I would be surprised if it was up for sale again but you never know. Thanks, don't think it's the same car then.

That’s mine with Satin Neodyme wheels

I’m still undecided about the refurb especially as I went to see one place and they told me the refurbishment wouldn’t really improve the pitting caused by corrosion. I think I’m just going to save some more money and wait for a set to come up on eBay. I took a day off today to take a look at the shabby looking calipers. Just a quick drive way job but well worth the effort as they now look a load better. I’m going to wait a couple of days before adding the decals (although I might just fill the embossed lettering with white paint)

robemcdonald said: I’m still undecided about the refurb especially as I went to see one place and they told me the refurbishment wouldn’t really improve the pitting caused by corrosion. Were they going to powder coat or paint?

ATM said: robemcdonald said: I’m still undecided about the refurb especially as I went to see one place and they told me the refurbishment wouldn’t really improve the pitting caused by corrosion. Were they going to powder coat or paint? Powder coat

robemcdonald said: ATM said: robemcdonald said: I’m still undecided about the refurb especially as I went to see one place and they told me the refurbishment wouldn’t really improve the pitting caused by corrosion. Were they going to powder coat or paint? Powder coat Ok so I'm no expert but I believe pitting is just in the top coat. Proper powder coat wheel refurb shops will sand blast all this off and acid dip and alsorts. So then you're left with the bare alloy. Then the powder coat is applied and baked on. I did ask a powder coating business to do some wheels for me and they cautioned me that any imperfections would show through. So I guess a proper wheel type business will attempt to prepare these imperfections prior to powder coating. As with any form of painting the prep makes all the difference. As I understand no wheel is beyond repair unless it's badly buckled. So perhaps get another opinion before giving up. I've gone down the road of shopping for second hand wheels and they're never as good as people describe. So you are generally better buying really cheap and then refurbishing properly. These wheels below I got for 30 pound or their scrap weight and then had them refurnished. I wouldn't say they're perfect now but to me they're very good. It depends on your level of OCD what you consider good or perfect.

Mark-ri571 said: I don't like grey/silver cars, but that colour goes very nicely with the silver wheels.

CanAm said: I don't like grey/silver cars, but that colour goes very nicely with the silver wheels. Yes it’s Seal Grey which really suits the 987 as does Atlas Grey.

I'm not looking to sell my car, but am curious to know what it is worth as it is a bit unusual. Not sure if the modifications make it worth more or less. It's a 2005 987.1 Boxster S with a TPC Racing turbo conversion done by Parr in Crawley. 375 bhp instead of 275, but it's a low pressure system, so no group B style turbo lag. It's only done 44k miles. I've had the Carrera Sport alloys painted Satin Platinum and fitted Zunsport grilles which I've painted in the same colour. I've fitted PCCM+ and a reversing camera last year. Here's an article from 911 and Porsche World about it after the previous owner had the turbo conversion done. article Thoughts?

VladD said: I'm not looking to sell my car, but am curious to know what it is worth as it is a bit unusual. Not sure if the modifications make it worth more or less. It's a 2005 987.1 Boxster S with a TPC Racing turbo conversion done by Parr in Crawley. 375 bhp instead of 275, but it's a low pressure system, so no group B style turbo lag. It's only done 44k miles. I've had the Carrera Sport alloys painted Satin Platinum and fitted Zunsport grilles which I've painted in the same colour. I've fitted PCCM+ and a reversing camera last year. Here's an article from 911 and Porsche World about it after the previous owner had the turbo conversion done. article Thoughts? I think it looks and sounds brilliant. As for what it’s worth? Above market price to the right person. Below market price to the vast majority. I speak as someone who spent a fortune modifying a car only to sell it for significantly less than a standard one.

robemcdonald said: I think it looks and sounds brilliant. As for what it’s worth? Above market price to the right person. Below market price to the vast majority. I speak as someone who spent a fortune modifying a car only to sell it for significantly less than a standard one. I agree with this. Additionally the market has really softened with the arrival of winter. You can now get into a decent spec and condition 987.2 for sub£10k.

A 987 Boxster S was a ten grand car over ten years ago. Id only consider a 3.2L because the 3.4L is far too great a risk in a car that isn't worth the cost of repair. For £10,000 Id expect to buy a 2.9L and there are certainly cars available at this price. Remember that many owners bought 987s (and 996s) at inflated bubble prices and expect, unrealistically, to sell without a loss. 3.2L 986s are available at £3,xxx and and 2.7L 987s start at five. As with all Porsches, there will be good and bad at these prices, but paying more certainly doesn't ensure that you buy a better car.

Just over £10K, lovely colour https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410014...

KittyLitter said: Just over £10K, lovely colour https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410014... Looks like a good car, the description says all of the right things. I just can't understand why the seller couldn't have got the hoover out for 5 minutes though:

KittyLitter said: Just over £10K, lovely colour https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410014... I like the colour, but that’s about it. I’d say it’s £3k over priced.

robemcdonald said: KittyLitter said: Just over £10K, lovely colour https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202410014... I like the colour, but that’s about it. I’d say it’s £3k over priced. I have no affiliation to the sale, but show me evidence that there is better out there at £7K with similar milage, manual box, and extensive service history....and an interesting colour to boot. You can't.

KittyLitter said: I have no affiliation to the sale, but show me evidence that there is better out there at £7K with similar milage, manual box, and extensive service history....and an interesting colour to boot. You can't. True, but you can get very close. More ordinary colour but less miles, half the number of owners, manual, service history, and a trade seller, all for £7495. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202409033...

Loads of cars come up n the Facebook groups. Next time one pops up I’ll post it. In terms of that car it’s pre the 2007 revision which means potential IMS issues that are much rarer after the revised bearing. The fact the advertiser hasn’t been bothered to hoover it out is also a bit of a red flag. At that money you could do better and at this time of the year. I maintain it’s £3k overpriced. When it disappears from auto trader at the weekend please tell me I was wrong, but I think this one will be for sale for quite a while…

robemcdonald said: Loads of cars come up n the Facebook groups. Next time one pops up I’ll post it. In terms of that car it’s pre the 2007 revision which means potential IMS issues that are much rarer after the revised bearing. The fact the advertiser hasn’t been bothered to hoover it out is also a bit of a red flag. At that money you could do better and at this time of the year. I maintain it’s £3k overpriced. When it disappears from auto trader at the weekend please tell me I was wrong, but I think this one will be for sale for quite a while… Like this one. Gen 2. Recently serviced. All the usual issues sorted, sports chrono, PCM, heated seats, parking sensors I pick it up on Sunday

Biglips said: robemcdonald said: Loads of cars come up n the Facebook groups. Next time one pops up I’ll post it. In terms of that car it’s pre the 2007 revision which means potential IMS issues that are much rarer after the revised bearing. The fact the advertiser hasn’t been bothered to hoover it out is also a bit of a red flag. At that money you could do better and at this time of the year. I maintain it’s £3k overpriced. When it disappears from auto trader at the weekend please tell me I was wrong, but I think this one will be for sale for quite a while… Like this one. Gen 2. Recently serviced. All the usual issues sorted, sports chrono, PCM, heated seats, parking sensors I pick it up on Sunday I know which one I’d have.. Very nice!

Amazing that the 2.9 can be sub 10k now!

Dave200 said: robemcdonald said: Dave200 said: I may be looking to get into a 987S in the coming month or so. I've owned a Range Rover, so big bills don't scare me too much. Is the prevailing wisdom still that at lower budgets (£13-14k) the 3.2 is probably the better bet on account of bore scoring risk, albeit a small risk? Anyone here fancy selling me a beautiful 3.2S that they've sunk a small fortune into over the past few years? You shouldn’t struggle with that budget. If you go for an S get one that has had the IMS done and you should be good. The number I've seen without basics like heated seats and Bose at this price is very frustrating. Patience required. BOSE is a pain you can get better results replacing the existing speakers. Heated seats are a must - my wife had heated sports seats in hers and they were lovely during a top down winter drive!

Biglips said: Like this one. Gen 2. Recently serviced. All the usual issues sorted, sports chrono, PCM, heated seats, parking sensors I pick it up on Sunday Well done and good luck

A little update on the car. I had a few problems with the roof not working properly. A bit of research led me to Paul at Torque Boxster who was able to sort it out for me. I also had him carry out a minor service whilst I was there. Also I finally ponied up and got the wheels refurbished. Full strip and powder coat. I went with the original colour. Looking back at the “renders” I’m not sure what I was thinking with the whole gold thing… Here’s a few pics of the wheels. Finally I did a minor mod I have been thinking about since I got the car. I painted the side vents satin black. I know that will be fairly divisive, but I really like it. I’m now on the lookout for a replacement hood as mine is really showing its age. Once that’s done. I’ll be looking at replacing the disks and pads.

I forgot to add I had to get two front tyres and I also replaced the centre caps on the wheels.

The wheels look great. Could I ask where you got them done, and what the original colour actually is? I had mine refurbished last year and they look good, but are a shade or two darker than original to my eye if I’m being fussy.

kingston12 said: The wheels look great. Could I ask where you got them done, and what the original colour actually is? I had mine refurbished last year and they look good, but are a shade or two darker than original to my eye if I m being fussy. The wheels were done by a company called Auto Wiz who are basically my local repair place. The guy said he knew the correct colour and since they exactly match the new centre caps I assume he wasn’t lying…. It cost £384 including the VAT. Perhaps I could have got it cheaper, but then I wouldn’t have been able to walk to the garage to pick it up..

I am also going to replace the wheel bolts, but was thinking about spacers. 7mm front and 15mm back seems to be the consensus. Anyone have a suggestions or recommendations?

robemcdonald said: The wheels were done by a company called Auto Wiz who are basically my local repair place. The guy said he knew the correct colour and since they exactly match the new centre caps I assume he wasn t lying . It cost £384 including the VAT. Perhaps I could have got it cheaper, but then I wouldn t have been able to walk to the garage to pick it up.. It looks a great job to me. I cant remember exactly what I paid as I bought new tyres at the same time, but I don’t think it was a great deal less than that. I had to drive across London as well, so much less convenient!

robemcdonald said: I am also going to replace the wheel bolts, but was thinking about spacers. 7mm front and 15mm back seems to be the consensus. Anyone have a suggestions or recommendations? That what I always see mentioned, but it looks perfect in some of the photos I’ve seen, and a bit too much in others. I’ve never been able to work out why, but it might be that the cars where it looks right have also been slightly lowered.

I picked up a cheap 987.1 Boxster S last week, pretty much the cheapest one on the market. It’s a cat D car having had a minor front bump, but it’s scrubbed up pretty well. It drove the best of the other cheaper 987.1 cars which were all 2.7’s. I missed out on a cracking Cobalt blue 2.7 on one of the owners groups, but after that they all seemed to have the bare minimum of maintenance, do very few miles and have the same MOT advisories again and again.

Court_S said: I picked up a cheap 987.1 Boxster S last week, pretty much the cheapest one on the market. It s a cat D car having had a minor front bump, but it s scrubbed up pretty well. It drove the best of the other cheaper 987.1 cars which were all 2.7 s. I missed out on a cracking Cobalt blue 2.7 on one of the owners groups, but after that they all seemed to have the bare minimum of maintenance, do very few miles and have the same MOT advisories again and again. Good work. Brilliant cars.

So it turns out my initial idea was only a partial success. In the end I have spent quite a bit more than my original budget, but so far it’s been a fairly rewarding journey. I’ve had the front and rear bumpers painted. The front had some stone chips and the back a couple of parking scrapes from previous owners. Still a list of things I want to improve including a suspension refresh, but I have to say it’s in better shape now.

robemcdonald said: So it turns out my initial idea was only a partial success. In the end I have spent quite a bit more than my original budget, but so far it s been a fairly rewarding journey. I ve had the front and rear bumpers painted. The front had some stone chips and the back a couple of parking scrapes from previous owners. Still a list of things I want to improve including a suspension refresh, but I have to say it s in better shape now. Hey Rob, never saw this thread when I started looking in June this year. Car looks great, what's the latest? I too picked up an '07 3.4 S in July in Atlas Grey also! And was just over £10k with 80k miles. Same Cayman S 18s too! I've just done the koni/spyder carnewal update to mine and they did all coffin arms, toe arms and top mounts. Pretty punchy but drives a dream now. Final update will be new tyres in the spring, on 5+ yr old Pilot Sport 2s with loads of tread currently so will try wear them out over winter when dry days allow.

tenmantaylor said: robemcdonald said: So it turns out my initial idea was only a partial success. In the end I have spent quite a bit more than my original budget, but so far it s been a fairly rewarding journey. I ve had the front and rear bumpers painted. The front had some stone chips and the back a couple of parking scrapes from previous owners. Still a list of things I want to improve including a suspension refresh, but I have to say it s in better shape now. Hey Rob, never saw this thread when I started looking in June this year. Car looks great, what's the latest? I too picked up an '07 3.4 S in July in Atlas Grey also! And was just over £10k with 80k miles. Same Cayman S 18s too! I've just done the koni/spyder carnewal update to mine and they did all coffin arms, toe arms and top mounts. Pretty punchy but drives a dream now. Final update will be new tyres in the spring, on 5+ yr old Pilot Sport 2s with loads of tread currently so will try wear them out over winter when dry days allow. The car passed its MoT with just one advisory. The rear tyres were starting to crack, so I bought a new pair of PS2s. The rims are an odd size and you can’t get a more modern michlean tyre. The latest issue is it doesn’t want to recognise the clutch is being pressed when starting. I changed one of the micro switches, but inevitably it is the other one that’s the problem. The new switch has just arrived from design 911. Quite how they can charge you £8 to deliver a Jiffy bag and it takes a week is a mystery only they know the answer to. The auto electrician that fitted the first switch also did a health check on the battery (just under a year old) its health was at 52%. So I swapped it under warranty. That went in this evening. Now I have a PSM failure on the dashboard (due to the car not having a battery for a couple of days) I’ll dig the code reader out and clear it tomorrow. Then it’s back to the auto electrician later in the week to get the second micro switch changed. On a more positive note it’s booked in for a paint correction and ceramic protection at the start of October. Fingers crossed it should be reasonable reliable for a while now.

robemcdonald said: The car passed its MoT with just one advisory. The rear tyres were starting to crack, so I bought a new pair of PS2s. The rims are an odd size and you can t get a more modern michlean tyre. The latest issue is it doesn t want to recognise the clutch is being pressed when starting. I changed one of the micro switches, but inevitably it is the other one that s the problem. The new switch has just arrived from design 911. Quite how they can charge you £8 to deliver a Jiffy bag and it takes a week is a mystery only they know the answer to. The auto electrician that fitted the first switch also did a health check on the battery (just under a year old) its health was at 52%. So I swapped it under warranty. That went in this evening. Now I have a PSM failure on the dashboard (due to the car not having a battery for a couple of days) I ll dig the code reader out and clear it tomorrow. Then it s back to the auto electrician later in the week to get the second micro switch changed. On a more positive note it s booked in for a paint correction and ceramic protection at the start of October. Fingers crossed it should be reasonable reliable for a while now. Just drive it a few yards and the psm error will clear. Also, whilst i’m a bit late now, you can just short the clutch starter switch wires together and not replace the switch, it doesn’t affect anything else.

Philvrs said: robemcdonald said: The car passed its MoT with just one advisory. The rear tyres were starting to crack, so I bought a new pair of PS2s. The rims are an odd size and you can t get a more modern michlean tyre. The latest issue is it doesn t want to recognise the clutch is being pressed when starting. I changed one of the micro switches, but inevitably it is the other one that s the problem. The new switch has just arrived from design 911. Quite how they can charge you £8 to deliver a Jiffy bag and it takes a week is a mystery only they know the answer to. The auto electrician that fitted the first switch also did a health check on the battery (just under a year old) its health was at 52%. So I swapped it under warranty. That went in this evening. Now I have a PSM failure on the dashboard (due to the car not having a battery for a couple of days) I ll dig the code reader out and clear it tomorrow. Then it s back to the auto electrician later in the week to get the second micro switch changed. On a more positive note it s booked in for a paint correction and ceramic protection at the start of October. Fingers crossed it should be reasonable reliable for a while now. Just drive it a few yards and the psm error will clear. Also, whilst i m a bit late now, you can just short the clutch starter switch wires together and not replace the switch, it doesn t affect anything else. Thanks. I know about the bypass thing, but I am trying not to do “bodge” type repairs. If it does go again (fairly regular occurrence I’m informed) I will probably bypass it.

Philvrs said: Just drive it a few yards and the psm error will clear. Also, whilst i m a bit late now, you can just short the clutch starter switch wires together and not replace the switch, it doesn t affect anything else. Yep just drive slowly and steer full left and right lock and it will recalibrate and clear. Did this when I chnaged my battery. Prev owner had garage put a cheapo 600CCA one in and didnt even tie it down! Ive put big bosch 850Cca in and no more hot start issues. Can't believe people cheap out on £100 on such nice cars!

tenmantaylor said: Yep just drive slowly and steer full left and right lock and it will recalibrate and clear. Did this when I changed my battery. Ditto (though it's good arm exercise lifting it in to the frunk). And a pukka battery was under £100 via Tayna.

Picked the car up from the detailer today. Paint enhancement (machine polish to you and me), detail and ceramic coating. I think it looks ace. Very happy and looking forward to taking it to the 30th anniversary bash at Gaydon on Saturday.

She's a beauty. Enjoy in good health!

Looks amazing, Rob! I'll be there in my almost identical car I've got a couple tiny paint scuffs I'm getting touched up next week then I'll probably do the same to protect it through winter. Who did you use and how much was it? Also I notice you have PS5s on the front, I can't find PS5 in a fitment to fit rear. Do you still have PS2 on rear? I've been doing some calculations on willtheyfit.com and 260/40 or even 265/40 would be fine but neither seem to exist for sale anywhere. Edited by tenmantaylor on Friday 9th October 13:19

tenmantaylor said: Looks amazing, Rob! I'll be there in my almost identical car I've got a couple tiny paint scuffs I'm getting touched up next week then I'll probably do the same to protect it through winter. Who did you use and how much was it? Also I notice you have PS5s on the front, I can't find PS5 in a fitment to fit rear. Do you still have PS2 on rear? I've been doing some calculations on willtheyfit.com and 260/40 or even 265/40 would be fine but neither seem to exist for sale anywhere. Edited by tenmantaylor on Friday 9th October 13:19 To answer your questions The detail was done by a guy called Joe Huntley he is based in Welwyn garden city less than a mile from my house. I’m pretty fortunate that he’s on my door step. He does some amazing cars as well as old boxsters. He had the car for three days. He charges £800 for the enhancement. His website lists quite a bit of what he did on my car as extras too, but he did it without charge on mine (not too sure why, but I’m not going to argue). Lots of places will do it for less on you drive in a day. Let’s just say I’m very happy with my choices and the value for money. PS5s on the front and PS2s on the back. I went with the ps5s as they were in stock and I had a three bulge on the inside of a tyre I didn’t know about when it went for MoT last year. PS2s wouldn’t have arrived in time. I’m sure some will advise me of my bad choices as the fronts aren’t n rated, I’ll address that when they wear out or get old. I did do the same exercise seeing if I could get ps5s for the back when I changed them in August. No was the conclusion I reached. Actually I got a great deal from Formula one auto centres online. £333 for the pair fitted. Which I thought was pretty good for the OEM tyre. If you see me tomorrow say hello. I’m travelling up in convoy with the Porsche Drivers Group in convoy. It’s my first outing with them and don’t know anyone…

I wouldn't worry about N rating it isnt legal or safety rating, if its same fitment and speed rating it will be fine. I'm going to go Sport Contact 7 all round next time. Yes will keep an eye out altho about 800 cars! I'm driving up the fosseway in convoy with some cotswold members. Edited by tenmantaylor on Friday 9th October 18:53