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this emotion is used by dealers to extract more cash from end-users.
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Go and buy one that is!
Looking at a facelift 7k 2001 C2 Manual with oodles of extras, pcm, heated seats, natural leather, sound kit, cdchanger, psm, litronic, etc etc, speed yellow, painted dials, (but no funny aerokits to spoil the lines).
Any thoughts on the correct price to pay (its bought from a garage) but bear in mind that waiting lists for C2's and C4's are quoted in weeks now, and that the two porsche garages I went into "had a slot" for me real soon....
anything i should know about these beasties??
in your experience how much approx will servicing this thing cost me???
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3084
I don't know much about 996s to be honest (out of my price range!) but personally I think they look a lot better with "funny aerokits" - the GT3 one anyway. Adds a bit of character to an otherwise dull-looking car. Given that most cars don't have them I guess I am in the minority though.
There a loads of guys here with 996s so I am sure they will pipe up with something more helpful.
My guess on the price would be a good bit less than list price. C4S 's seem to go for about their list price 2nd hand (those few that are ont he 2nd hand market already) or even £5k+ less than list, and they seem to be the model of choice at the moment.
Cheers, James
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3085
Well it sounds like a pretty full spec, but one of the earlier facelift models. I would say between £55 and £57k. Servicing is cheaper than previous 911s....dont ask me why....something to do with the varioram system I think.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3086
Only extra you need is the sports exhaust. Available slots due to instabilty in high sector jobs and the impending arrival of the 997. 993 a better short term purchase as 996's will definately take a big hit when the 997 arrives.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3087
......Then Sarbs comes and ruins everything.......hehe. Its only money, and if you can afford the depreciation then go for it I say.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3089
Did 993's take a price hit when the 996 came out? I guess the air-cooled vs water-cooled thing might have protected 993 prices for a while.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3092
hmmmmm......... hey wait i disagreee.......
i'm not a fan of the 993, specially as it is getting on in years. if the 996 takes a hit with the arrival of the 997, then logically the 993 will more or less drop off the map, surely??
i think the question of 993 vs 996 is difficult to answer, especially on a "specialist" forum like this! its a bit like going to a tvr forum and asking a question about reliability. They don't understand the question.
i don't actually care how the engines cooled, i'm more interested in it as an integrated package. will it get me to my home town (330miles) on the motorway without a screaming headache (thank you BMW Z3) and will it perform on the twisty stuff on the one weekend a month i go somewhere b-road-ish. (sorry SLK)
and will it convey me through London Town in style without overheating at the lights (goodbye TVR).
and i'm not a fan of body kits except the C4S and Turbo which are wide-hips sexy.
good point about the exhaust - i'll remember to ask the nice garage man that question.
servicing?? i suppose i'll have to grin and bear it!! i saw a turbo bill for £1100 for a 10k service so i take it the C2 will be a fraction less. ("Oh goody, only £800 for a 10k service...)
depreciation: i'm assuming around £5k per year if i do <10k miles, ie sell the ***** in two years for a nearly new 997 having maintained my deposit. these finance things can be construed as "renting", but sod it, i'm only renting this space on the planet for 70 years (maybe longer!) so lets not get picky about it! :wink:
and to the person what suggested 55-57 the vendors asking 56 so spot on my son!
i'll try for a discount as the person who said the top job shortage is hurting sales is also on the money!!
cheers for the advice one and all!
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3093
Jono, I think I read recently that the service costs are nearer £500 than £800. Not sure where I read it, but it compared 964 vs 993 vs 996 service costs. If I see it again I will let you know.
James
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3094
ahhh.... not far from my Merc Dealers belief that my slk should be around £450 then....
Mercedes garage - glass of water = £10.
actually i learn quick and supplied my own synthetic oil and saved about £30.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3096
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.....i'm not a fan of the 993, specially as it is getting on in years. if the 996 takes a hit with the arrival of the 997, then logically the 993 will more or less drop off the map, surely??.......Some people see the 993 as the last real 911 and is still the most desirable model so no I dont think that will happen.
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in this part of the world the 993 may be allways seen as the most desirable, but in the wider world (the one that sets the values) the long term trend will be like any other car. however don't let me stop you paying whatever you like for your preferred transport... :wink:
its allways worth remembering that the bloody things are actually mass produced in factories and not get too involved in the emotional side! this emotion is used by dealers to extract more cash from end-users. (my goodness, i'm hard hearted...
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still i'm looking forward to a decision in which my head agrees with my heart...
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3097
Nope, youll just get noticed more than all of those people in their boring silver and blue p-cars!!!!! :twisted:
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3102
Noony its not about getting noticed, if I wanted to get noticed i'd buy a diablo in yellow or, these cars are about driving (only done 760miles but you get me), and driving mainly hassle free or i would have gone for the 360.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3109
Noony and Sarbs.... lets be honest it is a little bit about getting noticed or we'd all be in Rover 100's wouldn't we?
Few people buy a car that costs nearly 2 or 3 times the UK average annual family income and doesn't want people to notice?
In reality how many times do you exceed 120mph? (Sorry officer, no you keep the licence, i won't be needing it for a while...)
How much time does the improved handling save you driving through Fulham in the rush hour? Does 4-wheel drive allow me to get round Hammersmith roundabout quicker?
Err..... no.
Logically I don't need anything like this car! Sorry Sarbs, but on a certain level its all about getting noticed - but for the right reasons! Oh yeah, and they go some as well.
Migration info. Legacy thread was 3116
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