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987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

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YOUR RESEARCH987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

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already present

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Reported cause

The problem was already present when I bought the car.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4
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Clean free-revving

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Suggestion

High-RPM/load-dependent misfire detection, cylinders 1 and 4 showing the most activity, no noticeable stumble or hesitation while it's occurring, clean free-revving to high RPM, and the onset RPM changing with increased intake airflow.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4
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Leading evidence: 'already present' (1 discussions report identifying this cause; no attributable repair resolution). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'already present' (1 discussions; 1 report identifying it and 0 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Clean free-revving' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace simultaneously, i can't really separate what effect any individual

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Since the plugs, coils, and flywheel were all changed simultaneously, I can't really separate what effect any individual change may have had.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace were replaced, and all six coils

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were replaced, and all six coils were replaced with new BERUs.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace with a lightweight flywheel (sorry jake), all six

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

At the same time, the DMF was replaced with a lightweight flywheel (Sorry Jake), all six

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Test since

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Things I've done/tested since:

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4
Frequently discussed actions (10)

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Clean free-revving

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Suggestion

High-RPM/load-dependent misfire detection, cylinders 1 and 4 showing the most activity, no noticeable stumble or hesitation while it's occurring, clean free-revving to high RPM, and the onset RPM changing with increased intake airflow.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace #1 bosch plug

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Unsuccessful attempt

Swapped the new #1 Bosch plug for a new NGK as another test. No change.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace air oil separator

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Suggestion

Replaced the AOS and cleaned up the oil I could access.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace cps, no

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Unsuccessful attempt

Replaced the CPS, no change.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace may have had

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Suggestion

Since the plugs, coils, and flywheel were all changed simultaneously, I can't really separate what effect any individual change may have had.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace simultaneously, i can't really separate what effect any individual

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

Since the plugs, coils, and flywheel were all changed simultaneously, I can't really separate what effect any individual change may have had.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace were replaced, and all six coils

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

were replaced, and all six coils were replaced with new BERUs.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace with a lightweight flywheel (sorry jake), all six

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

At the same time, the DMF was replaced with a lightweight flywheel (Sorry Jake), all six

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Replace with increased intake airflow

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

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Suggestion

High-RPM/load-dependent misfire detection, cylinders 1 and 4 showing the most activity, no noticeable stumble or hesitation while it's occurring, clean free-revving to high RPM, and the onset RPM changing with increased intake airflow.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4

Reset followed by several in-gear overrun cycles

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Suggestion

Performed a battery/DME reset followed by several in-gear overrun cycles.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4
Reported and suspected causes (1)

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already present

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Reported cause

The problem was already present when I bought the car.

987.1 Cayman S / FSI 3.6 – High RPM Misfire Under Load, Cyl 1 & 4
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POST 1Original post

Looking for some fresh eyes on a high-RPM misfire I’ve been chasing on my 2006 Cayman S . The car has a Flat 6 Innovations / Jake Raby Stage I Street Performer 3.6L and currently has about 69k miles...engine build about 20K. The problem was already present when I bought the car. At that time it still had the factory dual-mass flywheel, and I have pictures showing stored misfire codes for cylinders 1 and 4. The basic symptom is that under heavy load at high RPM, generally around 6k+, the CEL starts flashing. The strange part is that there is no noticeable hesitation, stutter, breakup, or obvious loss of power when it happens. From the driver's seat, the engine continues pulling smoothly. If the CEL weren't flashing, I wouldn't necessarily know the DME was detecting a misfire. Depending on the pull, the CEL may stop flashing by itself, stay illuminated afterward, or the DME may shut down cylinder 1 until I cycle the ignition. Obviously, once the DME actually disabled cylinder 1, that was noticeable. I can also free-rev the engine to high RPM in neutral without triggering the problem. It only happens under load. A few weeks ago I had the clutch replaced. At the same time, the DMF was replaced with a lightweight flywheel (Sorry Jake), all six spark plugs were replaced, and all six coils were replaced with new BERUs. The high-RPM issue remained afterward. Since the plugs, coils, and flywheel were all changed simultaneously, I can't really separate what effect any individual change may have had. The important part is that the problem definitely existed beforehand with the DMF and old plugs/coils. Things I've done/tested since: Swapped the new #1 Bosch plug for a new NGK as another test. No change. The crankshaft position sensor had a surprising amount of metallic debris stuck to the tip. Replaced the CPS, no change. Performed a battery/DME reset followed by several in-gear overrun cycles. No improvement. Logged actual vs commanded lambda on both banks. I didn't see an obvious lean event corresponding with the CEL. Logged ignition timing and didn't see an obvious global timing event corresponding with it either. Foxwell misfire/roughness data shows activity on multiple cylinders and both banks, but cylinders 1 and 4 have consistently been the standouts. On one pull, peak misfire counters were roughly 67 on #1 and 78 on #4. Found a some oil getting into the intake through the AOS system. Replaced the AOS and cleaned up the oil I could access. No change to the high-RPM issue. I previously had an IPD Competition plenum and 82mm GT3 throttle body installed. Interestingly, with the larger intake setup the CEL/misfire detection occurred at a lower RPM. Going back to the stock plenum and throttle body moved the onset higher, but didn't eliminate it. I also have the original FSI build sheet. The engine received new timing chains/guides/tensioners, new OEM valve springs, exhaust lifters and other associated components. The sheet specifically notes that the VarioCam Plus intake lifters were not replaced as part of the standard build. The combination I'm having trouble making sense of is: High-RPM/load-dependent misfire detection, cylinders 1 and 4 showing the most activity, no noticeable stumble or hesitation while it's occurring, clean free-revving to high RPM, and the onset RPM changing with increased intake airflow. Curious if anyone has encountered something similar on an M97, particularly something that showed significant misfire counts without the engine actually feeling like it was misfiring. Any experience or ideas would be appreciated.

POST 2Original post

Try turning on logging.. and log the following: Camshaft angle requested Camshaft angle actual That will tell you immediately if the cam adjusters are an issue. - Measure fuel trim, short-term and immediate, requested vs actual.. That will give us a clue if the injectors are an issue..

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