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My front tires are continental which need to be replaced asap - 31%.
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I ran with Bridgestone Potenza RE050 Pole Positions for years.
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Too bad my heloc is being used for a bathroom remodel.
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I've always used pilot sports and I read that the SS blend that performance with longer tread wear..so they sound good ...
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Yoshinoya,
That's a very nice C4S, is that our 356 too next to it? Loving the silhouette shot in dimmed lights. I came very close to getting a silver one but it was out west and very high on miles - had like 105K. What have you done to yours in the last 6 years? I see the spoiler and and rims, are you running factory size tires?
Thanks Ctoro99,
Loving your Lapis(?) Blue C4s also. I was actually in the market for a black one, but came across the meridian silver which has a purplish tint and couldn't resist. I'm Running 19inch rims 285 in the front and 315 in the rear if my memory serves correct. Aside from the wing and wheels, the car is equipped with H&R coil overs and front strut brace.
I wish the 356 was mine, it was parked there already when I pulled up. That is one of my ultimate dream P-cars, one day my friend!
Thanks Stone 05, love your blk/blk C4s, as you see above, it was my first preference.
Enjoy the car without the wing, its such a classic look and of course biased, but the C4s is the sexiest of the 996 range. The wing can come later when you want to refresh the look a bit in the near future =)
I thought I was ready to move on and get a new car...an Audi R8 was calling my name.
I had it sold and the guy was bringing me a check yesterday...
But, I just couldn't do it. I love this car as much as I did when I bought her in 2007.
Anything I liked any better was well over $100K.
Keeping it for now.....maybe forever.
Glad to hear Brando! Surprised that you were going to sell after all that work and such a beautiful C4S. Plus, I was a little pi$$ed seeing it for sale after I bought mine.
Glad you're going to hang on to it!
Brando, what's not to love...? Can't think of many other vehicles that would look as good as this C4S. Rims and rear spoiler take it over the edge...in a good way.
Ok guys. New to the forum and am about to be the proud owner of a C4S Monday afternoon. I've been looking for a while and decided on a 2003 C4S in Yellow. However yesterday I saw one in White with 49K miles on it. Went to go check it out today... Took it for a drive and after explaining to my wife what was taking me so long at Sam's Club.... I signed some papers. Now, I've done a lot of research to determine what I want but I honestly haven't done a lot of research on this car specifically. I know it has a clean carfax and nothing jumped out at me when visually inspecting it or driving it. At almost $40K for a 10 year old car is a little unnerving, it is by far the best looking and cleanest car I've seen to date (apples to apples).
Here is the carfax report:
http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...AA29993S623172
And here is the eBay Listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STUNNING-911-CARRERA-4S-COUPE-AWD-18-WHLS-BOSE-STITCHING-ONLY-49K-MILES-PRISTINE-/350601174233?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item51a1755cd9 #vi-content
I have been a BMW guy in the past owning an E30, E36 and E46 thus only really know about Porsches through forums, MT, C&D and my friend who thinks his 2001 Boxster is the greatest car ever made.
Planning on taking it to Hennesy Porsche to have it checked out on Monday but I know I'm paying more than KBB Value. Am I right in thinking that this is a fair price? There were two other people that came to look at the car while I was there. With that kind of attention there is no way they are going to lower the price. It also seems pretty hard to find a white C4S anywhere.
So... you guys being the experts- tell me what you think.
Very nice car and rare color!
Hit them with the Edmunds valuation....
They should be willing to take under $38K in this economy.
Good luck and let me know if you get it....we'll hit the mountains!
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Brando love the wing! That would look great on mine too, good to see you keep,the car the c4S seem to be holding value pretty good (all,the magizine attention seems to be working), best looking 996 save the Gt cars.
I need to replace my 2 front tires on my C4S - they are down to 31%. Any specific brand/style recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
rich
Finally got around to taking some decent pics of the entire car. Mine came with the GT3 wheels. They've kind of grown on me now. I'm not sure if I want to move up to 19's or not. Love the way the car handles and the power. Don't want to do anything to lessen that. Maybe lowering the car and getting small spacers for a little more aggressive stance with these 18's? Right now I have 18x8 with 50ET up front and 18x11 with 45ET rear. What do you guys think?
Also...noticed my exhaust tip is a little off on the right. Wasn't before....must've happend after getting my IMS,Clutch etc. replaced. I'll have to adjust it.
Stone- youll be fine lowering it will make an illusion the rims are bigger, and you should like it...
Has anyone ever taken out the plastic inserts on the turbo slats of the rear bumper? Ours have plastic in them, the TT has em open and it looks WAY better. I'm thinking of taking mine off but wondering if anyone has done this? thanks
Like many, I've been dreaming of owning a 911 since I was a youngster. I have my eye on a C4S, and hope to be able to pull trigger shortly. Two questions:
1. Any known issues on the 2002 model I should be aware of?
2. Why do Porsche owners seem to only keep for a couple of years and then sell? Does the reality not live up to the dream? (I guess that's 3 questions)
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IMS bearing can fail in an unknown percentage of cars. A fix is available when you replace the clutch.
switches go bad causing random CEL signals.
Cats last 80005 miles; guaranteed to 80000 miles.
car eats rear tires. One gets 10-12 k miles on a set. One has to have 4 wheel alignment to preserve rears; some get adjustable control arms.
cars are traded every few years, because after driving them, one longs for more POWER.
after you get one, join PCA and get thee to a Drivers' education event. You will never know what you have until you get it over 5K rpm in a safe venue. My car is completely different there
JB
p.s. my avatar is at watkins glen.
Thanks for the reply, itching for the C4S, the maintenance though is scaring me. While I realize it's the price for experiencing the ride, the mileage you quote for the tires seems ridiculous. Track time is first on my list, for sure. Anybody looking for an 09 Harley Street Bob to help finance my dream?
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If you are going to do any track time or autocross time, then the tires will last even fewer miles! It's not uncommon for rear tires to be worn out in 7,000 or 8,000 miles.
You have to pay if you want to play!
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Definitely understand. Playing at the track and getting that kind of mileage out of a set of rubber is one thing. Just driving to and from work on a nice day, totally different story.
Finding a loan for a 10 year old car at a decent rate is frustrating. Too bad my heloc is being used for a bathroom remodel.
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Point me in the right direction, please. Mine only goes back 7 years. Another is 70% for loan to value for 10 years. I can fel the shifter in my hands, I just need the $$$ to finish the deal.
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Try Pentagon Federal. I joined my wife's credit union for teachers. I'm not a teacher but they let family members join. Got a 2% rate for a 04 C4S. Credit unions will consider the value of the car versus the age. Initially i was going to purchase a NSX which was older and they were ok with that too. Heard a lot of good things about PenFed and their loan process. Give them a shot! Good luck!
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oh good, I haven't been in here for awhile and as a fellow wide-butt, are you checking this Burke?, I'm glad to see the tire-wars are going to heat up again.
(C4S wide-butt t-shirts would be good, but my last venture into the t-shirt business was a huge bust.)
Um, yes, to answer a previous question, tires are for sure a bit pricy. And they do wear out pretty quick if you take the car out of the garage. Of course none of us got into this game with any worry about tire replacement. It's literally the nature of the beasts.
So onward to the wars. I ran with Bridgestone Potenza RE050 Pole Positions for years. Recently had to replace the rears after running around all summer. Fronts were just fine. Found out that Bridgestone discontinued the 295's. Noting abs and psm issues when mixing tires, I didn't buy Bridgestone's designated replacement tire, although I would guess the compound would be the same. Instead, I have 4 new Michelin PS2's. And, seriously, I'm finding that running the Michelins is better, both for stick and for sound and ride. Have not been out in the rain yet, but the traction is AA like the Bridgestones and no problems expected. The tread ware differece is 220 on the ps2's to 280 on the pp's. Negligible.
So, to answer the questions posed above, tires are expensive, Bridgestone RE050pp's are fine on the car, Michelin ps2's seem to be better so far.
Cheers, j
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Quicksand, I too went throught a Credit Union, Andrews Federal in MD. Just got 04-C4s back in June at a 1.59% int. rate, they offered 7 yrs. but I took it for 5 instead. I joined The Club and have been to a few events and have 2 more this month. IMS issue mentioned is on the back of my head but even so I'm enjoying the car tremendously and getting the wife and kids involved even as they come along for the events - car talk this weekend, big brunch in 2 weeks, kids are coming. And when I wonder why I'm still busting my a$$ at 52, i walk out to the garage, check out the ride and although the question goes unanswered, I see my reward. No regrets!
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Hello Stone, got a question for you...I can't remember if you were on the East coast but when you mentioned doing the IMS and clutch (plus) on your C4S actually a few questions come to mind. At 42k miles on my 04 I haven't done that yet but I have been looking into it with cost ranging from 2500 to near 4k. That said, do you mind sharing who did the work for you, cost, quality of work and your level of satisfaction with the shop and work done?
Thanks in advance for any information.
My first one... Picked this up for my birthday, 02 c4s with 27,233 miles.
Anyone know of a good mechanic/ reasonably priced in Atlanta? I know it needs a rear main seal and a cam cover needs resealing but I factored that into the price. Other than that I think it is in awesome condition.
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Its loaded - all options except the Nav. I have not done any after market performance mods to it. I did however switch out the side markers though - way better than the orange stock ones
Mine is a 2003 and has a 6 speed manual transmission with only 15,000 miles. I do need to replace the 2 front tires but I cant decide which ones to go with.
Tell me about your 4s and upload a few pics too
Rich
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...s-04-c4s-2912/
hey Rich
I'm amazed at your low miles !
I ordered mine with sport seats / headrest logo, carbon brake,shifter & sills, lictronics, crest center caps, sunroof
what tires do you have on the rear ?
My Carrera has the 4s wheel caps, it has a sunroof, NO crest/logo on the seats, it does have the carbon fiber trim inside (steering wheel, ebrake, and shift ****). Yeah only 15,178 miles on it - i drive it only on nice days and never in the rain.
My front tires are continental which need to be replaced asap - 31%. My rear tires are Michelin Pilot - they are still good - about 58%.
I am having a terrible time deciding which brand of tires to buy for my car. Any suggestions?
Rich
I am leaning towards the Michilin Super Sport tires for the front. I have owned the car for a year - second owner - when i bought it it had 13,800 miles on it - a 62 year old man owned it - he bought it brand new from the Porsche dealership in 2003 - he had all the service records from the dealership - clean title and car fax - I had it checked out top to bottom - its an excellent car - what a find!
What is your opinion in regard to the Michilin Super Sport tires?
Rich
I've always used pilot sports and I read that the SS blend that performance with longer tread wear..so they sound good ... but if you have pilot sport on the rear, put them on the front too
you did find a rare car !
This is how I purchased it, stock:
This is after some work done: Excuse the bad tires, I'm putting 315's on it in a week or so.
This was my drive to work today:
Planning lnengineriing nikkies. Should i go to 4.0 or just 3.6? Does deep sump cause frequent contact with pavement? Is a plenum advisable? I am advised to have the ecu reprogramed. Will this allow over revvinng-- my wife occasionally autocrosses this c4s.
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Well I FINALLY ordered my new tires - Michelin PS2s for the front and back - yep i'm replacing all four at the same time. They should arrive by next Monday - I'm so happy to have finally made a decision - can't ever go wrong with PS2's
I sold my 2002 C4S in 2005. I have since gone through many cars but can't seem to forget that C4S. I just found out a family member has decide to sell his 2003 seal gray 4S. I helped him buy the car in 2005 and he had put only 15k miles since. I believe he currently has just below 50k miles. It has nav and Bose... Don't remember much more. What is a fair private party sale price? Not that excited about mixing money and family!
just bought 996 4s 2002 with 17000 miles on and i like to buy a new wheels and tires but i have a big dlemma to stay with 18s or buy 19s? any suggestions ?
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good move. I've run Bridgestone RE050 PP's for some time and thought they were ok, but when I needed to replace the rears and Bridgestone discontinued the 295's, I put 4 Michelin PS2's on the car. The traction rate is the same, the PS2'S do have a slightly lower wear rating, but the grip and ride with the PS2's is superior to the Bridgestone.
you were right to get four at the same time. big problems happen when not running matching pairs front and back. been there, done that...
Greetings all. Long time lurker, but figure I'd finally post now that I am a 996 owner. I recently picked up a 2004 C4S, so far I'm quite happy with it. I'll probably sticking to tech forums and asking lots of nerdy questions.
I also just picked up an 04 C4S with 47k miles. Its arctic silver w/ black full leather with GT3 wheels, PSE and sport shifter. Ill post pics up soon! Glad to finally be a part of the 911 family !
