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YOUR RESEARCHInstrument cluster: howto replace 987 cluster w/ 997 pod ?
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Replace 987 cluster by a 997 cluster
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Did any body replace the 987 cluster by a 997 cluster on a
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Replacing the upper dash with one from a 997 is likely easier than hacking up the 987 dash.
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Replace with the new cluster or did it stay correct
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Did the odometer change with the new cluster or did it stay correct for the car?
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Run lights
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For mine, I kept my 987 headlights and turned the turn signals into daytime running lights.
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Use 996 transducer
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I've heard of people using the 996 transducer when adding a pressure gauge to the
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I see that you had to cut out the dash support on the sides of the gauge openings in order to fit the outside two gauges. For those of us who have
987.1
cars, we'll have to find a temp/pressure transducer and add wiring to operate the gauges.
I've heard of people using the 996 transducer when adding a pressure gauge to the
987.1
. It retains the low pressure switch for the existing warning and adds a variable output for the gauge. The challenge here would be getting pressure on the CANBUS. As far as I know the 997 dash reads from CANBUS, not a discrete wire. Never heard of anyone solving that one. Shame as the 997 dash is a more elegant solution than aftermarket gauges.
Lets get a way to retrofit the 997 dash into the existing
987.1
S dash using the
Bosch
system. I am really wanting to see how the oil pressure and oil temps will work.
What engine is a MA120? Car? Lesmurry, please let us know the particulars of your dash, if you sourced one and where the oil temp and pressures attach to the M97. The
ECU
is a
Bosch
correct on the 997?
The
Porsche boxster
987 facelift 2009 2012 models are equipped with MA120(2.9 ) or MA121(3.4) engine.the
M97 engine
is for 987 before 2009.Sorry for my english.I’am French!
Can I specify the color of the background in the 997 dash and be assured that the oil and oil pressures are accurate? Maybe I can have your installer do this along with a 997 GT3 front radiator and exhaust stack through the smile exhaust.
I have a source of GT3 Style front and rear bumpers - you can choose either 997 or 987 headlights. Adding the smile exhaust is pretty simple but you will want the 997 GT3 center radiator wind deflector. The 987 Front Radiator kit forces the air downward. You'll also need the 997 turn signals/fog lamps and GT3 left and right radiator channels(?).
For mine, I kept my 987 headlights and turned the turn signals into daytime running lights.
pt00323i- Please take a picture of your gauges and where you attached the oil pressure and oil temp to the engine. That would be great. I am actually thinking of 2 inch 270 degree sweep analog gauges.
Hi Fasav,
I'm in the process of doing this upgrade on my 2005 Cayman and am interested, did the stepper motor units plug into your old 987 instruments? Was the connector already there or did you have to solder them on? The only difference to your project is that I'm also upgrading my dash to a 997 one - a personal choice as I prefer its look.
Hi Fasav,
I stripped my 987 clocks down today and it would indeed appear that there were no connectors BUT, you can see where they would have been - see attached pictures. How did you make the connections?
That's it -- I found an article showing how to do the same for a
986
but it didn't mention the 987.
I want an oil pressure gauge; and maybe I convert the
voltmeter
to read oil temp.
interesting comment - is it based on experience ... ? it looks like there are two empty crescent shapes on either end of the 3 gauge cluster where the oil pressure and
voltmeter
gauges would rest.
I've also just read a PM from someone who has measured the 997 cluster and said he thought it would bolt right up. still need to add an oil pressure sensor wired to the dash compter ...
Well I said that because I have removed my cluster before and from what I remember there was no room. I might have answered too soon though. I am going to go look for some pics now.
Ok so I still don't think it will be a
plug
and play mod. Take a look at the attached pictures.
The first one is the 987 cluster with the shade removed. There isn't any extra room for the 997 cluster which is the second picture. Also, the 997 doesn't have a cluster shade. The dash goes over the cluster as you can see in the third picture. The 997 does have a surround piece, very similar to the RS60/
Cayman
Sport/R shade delete piece only it is larger, has five cutouts, and goes over the cluster.
From what I observed, the 997 cluster will not fit without hacking up the dash. Once you do that, you would still need to make a custom surround piece because the factory 987 cluster shade won't work, nor will the 997 piece.
Hello everybody!
Did any body replace the 987 cluster by a 997 cluster on a
Porsche boxster
?
I know it is possible on a
boxster
986
but on a 987,?
Place is missing ....
impressive Fasav! did you face any specific challenges in doing this project?
any other dashboard modifications other than creating some space for the extra gauges?
Nice!!! Any black face 997 versions of this instrument cluster?(non-S)
Any issues with the calibration of tachometer or speedo? Thought maybe the gearing or pulse conversion might be different. Probably not an issue since its all electronic.
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