6 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW
Discussion summary
YOUR RESEARCH996 Fan Operation Question
Leading reported evidence
Install 2022)
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
And the AC Conders are also relatively new (installed 2022), so I will probably say there is not a huge debris build up.
Leading evidence: 'Install 2022)' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Check continuity' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
Hi All, last week I noticed my "new to me" 996.1 C2 3.4 m/t, temperature gauge was slightly higher than I am used too when sitting in traffic (all the cars I had always sit on the middle or just below but this is my first Porsche).
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
Then I checked for continuity from both ends of the resistor and nothing, so I would assume that those exposed connections might have shorted them?
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
Ok so definitely my car is not behaving normally as per the repair manual.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
I thought I asked before I embark on the journey of start to change resistors/fan units.
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
I belive the fault is still electric as based on Richard's post the fans are not operating as they should, if the car is running hotter due to a sticking thermostat that would mean the fans would operate longer or potentially all the time which they are not.
Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.
6 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.
Porsche Club GB: 1 discussions
0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.
0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.
Generation: 20261026T130754Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources
Hi All, last week I noticed my "new to me" 996.1 C2 3.4 m/t, temperature gauge was slightly higher than I am used too when sitting in traffic (all the cars I had always sit on the middle or just below but this is my first Porsche).
After reading lots of threads about resistors, relays etc. I thought maybe both resistors where faulty. I did quite a comprehensive test and this is what I found out:
[*]40amp Fuses are both ok. Car does not has the original resistors, but has the RS components gold resistors that a lot of people tend to fit when the originals go bad.[*]Relays are all ok, tested all 4 in all 4 different position and I could hear/feel them click. [*]Jumped each relay connection point and I could hear the fans turn on. I am also using the HVAC controller hidden menu to monitor temps rather than using the gauge. [*]Fans will come on after I switch A/C on. When the car is cold >93 deg C the low speed relays click and the fans switch on. When the car is hot <93deg C the high speed relay click and the fans switch on. [*]I thought at this point the fans where switching on only when the A/C was switched on, but I left it idling with the A/C off and when the temperature hit 108deg C the high speed fans switched on and the decklid fan also switched on. (I took some pictures of the temperatures when this happened please see images attached)[/LIST]At this point I am not sure what to think. Fans seem to be operating "normally" I guess, but the temperature gauge does seem a bit high to me. I did a mixture of slow city driving + car stop idling for quite a while to achieve this temperatures. Is this normal and I am being way too paranoid? Or is it worth taking it to a specialist to have a look at it? I thought I asked before I embark on the journey of start to change resistors/fan units.
I read that 3.4 models have a more realistic temperature gauge that moves up and down more noticeable than the 996.2 but again I could be wrong. The car had a new water pump/radiators in 2020. And the AC Conders are also relatively new (installed 2022), so I will probably say there is not a huge debris build up.
Many thanks for your help!
Apologies if I’ve misunderstood, and I’m no mechanic, but you‘ve undertaken a fairly comprehensive electrical test, and assume you have an electrical issue. Perhaps it’s a sticking thermostat - is that possible? Wouldn’t that cause your temp gauge to sit higher?
John
There is often a difference between the gauge and the actual temperatiure.
This article might be of use:
https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=330170
You may not be able to access it as a guest, so I have copy and pasted it here:
[h1]Cooling Fans & Coolant Warning light[/h1]
There have been a few queries on the main 996 forum on these subjects, so I thought it might be a good idea to put a more permanent record on here. These were taken from the workshop manual (courtesy of Porsche AG):
COOLING FANS:
Switch-on conditions for coolant
or condenser blower motors:
Stage 1 is switched on when the coolant temperature is >100°C
or
there is an A/C demand, the intake air temperature is >8°C and terminal 15 (ignition) is switched on.
Stage 2 is switched on when the coolant temperature is >105°C
or
the refrigerant pressure is >16 bar.
Switch-on conditions for engine
compartment fan:
The engine compartment fan is switched on when the engine compartment temperature is >80°C
or
the coolant temperature is >102°C.
After-running of engine compartment fan
If the ignition is switched off and the engine compartment temperature is more than 60°C, the DME control module remains in readiness for another 20 minutes. During this time, the engine compartment temperature is retrieved every 10 seconds. If the engine compartment temperature is >85°C, the engine compartment fan is switched on for 20 seconds. If the engine compartment temperature is still >85°C after this time, the fan remains on for a further 30 seconds.
COOLANT WARNING LIGHT
(in the temperature gauge)
Four functions of the coolant warning light:
1. Engine coolant level too low
- light flashes slowly (0.5 Hz)
2. Engine compartment temperature too high
- light flashes slowly (0.5 Hz) (engine compartment blower might be faulty)
3. Engine coolant temperature too high
- light is lit; pointer on the right
4. Temperature sensor at water outlet faulty
- light flashes rapidly (1 Hz); pointer on the right
Note
The temperature warning in point three is indicated if the conditions "engine coolant temperature too high" and "engine coolant level too low" are present simultaneously
(1Hz = 1 flash per second. 0.5Hz = 2 seconds per flash)
Thanks John, yes it could be a sticking thermostat. Its on my list to do a lower temp thermostat so I will probably take it to precission porsche for a service and ask them to change it anyways. I belive the fault is still electric as based on Richard's post the fans are not operating as they should, if the car is running hotter due to a sticking thermostat that would mean the fans would operate longer or potentially all the time which they are not. They only seem to kick in at the highest speed when abnormally high temperatures are read.
Thanks again for your help Richard! I really appreciate it. Ok so definitely my car is not behaving normally as per the repair manual. I think I might have found the cause of the issue, I had a closer look at the resistors and they have been welded to the fan harness very poorly
(see images attached).
I tried to measure their resistance value with a multi-meter but had no luck. Then I checked for continuity from both ends of the resistor and nothing, so I would assume that those exposed connections might have shorted them? I ordered 2x new resistors from RS components and when measuring continuity they are continuous from one end to the other.
I will install this new resistors, using good connectors and protect it using heat-shrink tubing to ensure they are waterproof. Hopefully this fixes the issue. If there is something else I would probably take it to precision Porsche as I don’t have a lot of tools to work on the car unfortunately.
HI
Just be aware these resistors get very hot and are the connections are more open to the elements than the originals. Some have made a metal bracket to assist their location. If the original brackets are still in place you could adapt them.
Good luck
This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.