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A (PCQ) club member fitted a set of track tyres to his new(ish) 996 and ran it at a club track day at QR.
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Brakes, suspension and tyres are all you'd really need to get set up right + all can be changed without compromising the originality of your car.
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Most of the clubbies run high 1:40s to mid 1:50s around phillip island with 4AG engine.
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I have been thinking of building a track car for quite a while and always assumed it would be a aircooled car but with the prices of 996's now it seems more attractive to go this way.
I have to admit I have not had a lot to do with the water cooled cars in the past so my knowledge is limited hense this post.
I know there have been problems with these cars and if someone could give me an overview that would be great.
I would be planing to strip everything not required from the car and selling what I can.
Is a 996 a good car to do this with?
I thought the factory says don't track the cars without the Mezger engine?
Maybe that's because they refuse to warrant the standard engine. Others will know.
Here's
one build
; no clue as to how it turned out.
She has been on the track plenty of times in the past but I am wanting to go a bit further with setting it up and there is no way I am going to start ripping it apart it's too nice a car and I am kind of attached to it having had it for nearly 20 years.
It's more of a project for me to build something for the track but just road legal so it can be driven there - I may not do it but it's fun planning it
As a 996 owner my two cents worth is, don't do it.
The engine runs a risk of oil starvation particularly with semi slick tyres. There are better options for a track car then a 996, the repair bill if you damage your engine will give you nightmares
Witnessed this when the 996s were fairly new. A (PCQ) club member fitted a set of track tyres to his new(ish) 996 and ran it at a club track day at QR. It suffered oil surge and consequent starvation (not a dry sump, apparently) and fritzed his motor. He wasn't a happy camper...
I don't see why you have to rip the car apart? Brakes, suspension and tyres are all you'd really need to get set up right + all can be changed without compromising the originality of your car. I'd suggest you'd be spending a lot more trying to get a 996 to a compatible competitive level, as I'm sure you realise it's all about power vs weight and taking a modern luxury car with all the mod cons isn't the ideal place to start for a track day warrior (exception being a 996 GT3, but that's different again).
If you he'll bent on buying another porsche for track setup you can't go past a 944. 30k would have you in an amazing one.
<<< See avatar. 98 996 C2
25 full track days.
See how it goes
https://youtu.be/qoXsK52fV4s?t=3m
Judge for yourself whether it can be done.
Just my 2 cents worth.
I am no expert, but I have also tracked my car a few times, actually Carrera28 and I have been on the track together many a time. Interestingly without too much money and just gradual mods I have been able to get my times closer and closer to Carrera28's 996.
I know for a fact that we both get equal pleasure from the sessions. In my opinion my car has the ability for a lot more "Bang for Buck" as I am dealing with older school technologies. Hence modifications are often more DIY and affordable.
I must say though the best investment both of us have made is in our skills, we have invested in some specialised advice a couple of times and each session has yielded better improvements on times than any other mods.
Wise words spoken here. Terry's car provides much better bang for the buck and his bills when something goes wrong, whilst by no means cheap, are not as eye watering as a 996 and the DIY factor makes ongoing tuning and tweaking easier as well.
Agreed. Cheap, light (don't chew brakes and tyres), no need for heavy mods chasing power, easy to tow and fast. Most of the clubbies run high 1:40s to mid 1:50s around phillip island with 4AG engine. To put that in context my GT2 with mods does mid to high 1:40s. There is a guy in Marque Sports Car Club with a one off clubbie with 1600cc ford crossflow that does 1:47s.......! He just doesn't slow down for corners.
A 996 carrera would need a LOT of money spent to achieve that and no chance you'd get it back.
Buy my old clubbie and do low 1:50s in a road reg $35k car. 240hp/600kg = fast and fun and bugger all to maintain with standard, low stress components:
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Westfield-Sei-2008/SSE-AD-3240194
Here's some recent porsche lap times
http://racing.natsoft.com.au/638909410/object_804825.87F/View?26
I'm FAR from being any expert on that, yet if I was looking at doing it in a 944 half seriously, you'd need a cage, decent suspension and some sticky tyres. What's that, under $5000?
Gut the interior of anything that is not required (or not) and hit the track
There would be a bit of track prep, yet it would be a helluva lot cheaper than buying a 996 AND prepping it for track use.
There was a LHD race prepped 944 with a trailer for sale here in SA on Gumtree a while ago that I looked at.
Couldve bought just the car for $6000, and it was ready to go. Perfect track hack
Here's an example of lots spent, cheap resale. Mx5 with 320hp!
http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/tabid/65/p/1/cid/518/id/15273/Default.aspx
Or a 944 with trailer and new engine for 17k! A new engine for a 996 when it suffers oil surge will cost you that!
http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/tabid/65/p/2/cid/518/id/10756/Default.aspx
Or if it must be a 911 buy a former cup car:
http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/tabid/65/cid/527/id/15137/p/1/Default.aspx
Just be careful on maintenance costs with these - I hear it costs a fair bit to keep them on track but fast.
Bottom line is - buy someone else's money pit
Thanks to everyone who has voiced their opinions and after reading them all and doing a lot of research online I have to agree with the majority that's there are better options out there and as many have suggested a 944 turbo ticks most of the boxes.
The track ready one looks very tempting and would be a sensible choice, but a large part of the reason for me doing this is to have a project to get stuck into as that is what I really enjoy doing.
I will spend some time looking into it and hopefully I can start a thread on the project if it gets off the ground, I havnt mentioned it to the boss yet.
I guess I had better move to the another forum
