992 GT3RS - Page 5 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

As it seems to have gone a bit quiet around here what about a bit of speculation re the 992 GT3RS What will it be,configurations,power,trains mission,weight,performance,styling etc etc. Has it got too BIG, will tech dull it down or will it leave the current RS to the history books! Any chance of a mid engine special? I’m sure those in the know will already have personal invitations to private showings and will already be able to give us a definitive answer on the whole package! Will there even be one and what about a GT2 version

From another forum re 992GT3, they always know before pistonheads. My understanding of the car is that it will be a proper generaltional move forward in performance over the 991 generation GT3. My experience owning both generation 991 GT3 is that the facelift version was only a evlolutionary movement forward. perhaps 0.5s per lap for 1 minute length track (PDK vs PDK etc on teh same tyres). What do we know about the 992 GT3? We know that the track will be just over 40mm wider at the front and the rear vs the 991 GT3. This makes the car as wide as the 991 GT3RS. Furthermore we know that the rear tyre patch will be around 13% larger i the move from 20-21". This means more mechanical grip. The tyre will still remian 305 width without doubt. So with a wider front track we have more cornering ability and with a larger rear tyre patch we have more traction under load. Michelin and others will have a new N2 version of the Cup2 for this car. Watch alos Goodyear with their Supersport F1 range and Dunlop are making big improvements too. The dampers will be updated as per the 992 generation in general. They will likely have higher resolution and smarter PASM. The main springs may be a little stiffer with keeper springs for compliance on the road. AP said so for 991.2 but its not true. there are no keeper springs on my 991.2 For the engine it has already been announced and shown. A key Porsche executive has already stated at the Speester launch this will be the next GT3 engine. It will have 6 x ITM and GPF (luckily not ofr markets such as New Zealand and USA we hope). We have been lead to believe there may be a fractional increase in cpacity by less than 100cc (something to follow the motorsports engine development for 2020). Power we can see 520PS and 346lbft. The GT3 will have ram intakes that the speedster cannot. The wheel design is changed. We already see the deisgn in the 718 GT4 announced last week. It is teh same but forged and 20/21 for the 992 GT3... We have been told by interviews in the press that the PDK will remian the 7 speed unit (one assumes weight, reliability and packaging). Unfortunately the brakes appear they will remain the same generation as before. Brembo fixed bridge. PCCB Gen 3. 380/380 steel and 410/390 Ceramic. No dount the CL mechanisms will remian the same as before. We know the good will have the retro creases like the 992 Carrera and before the 991 GT3RS. We understand the body will have more alluminium such as the rear quarter panels (currently steel). Of course the interior changes alot. A new sports seat is available. It would be nice if a new bucket seat design is also avilable (both fixed and folding). The biggest advancement for the 992 GT3 over the 991 GT3 will be the track, suspension, tyres, chassis and tuning followed by the aero. The aero will have improved downforce by at least 20% over the 991.2 GT3. The power increase will make a small difference, mainly the tuning of the torque to fill out the mid range even further. Everything above we know is most likely, some definate and some of very high probability. The car will be wider, more agressive looking with many of the mechanical advantages already found in the 991.2 GT3RS by virtue of the increased width, tyre patch, aero, suspension and power/torque increases. The only thing that will change in the wrong direction is the weight and price, which is likely to be perhaps 20-30kg heavier and perhaps 5-8% more expensive than 991.2 GT3. Its been indicated the car will have a MT option and there is no reason to suggest not. So for me the 992 GT3 is very exciting. From 991.1 to 991.2 GT3 I am not so excited. It feels, smells and looks very much teh same as before - there are improvements but they are subtle (apart from the engine architecture which is indeed improved in the gen 2 car). The 992 will look different both inside and out and it will perform much better on the track. I would expect to see a more noticeable improvement than between generations for 991. Expect to see a Ring time at 7.00-7.05 with the Cup2 styel tyres (not the Cup2 R tyres that leped the 991 GT3RS go below 7.00 mins). I have ordered this car and believe it will be announced at Geneva in March next year (2020) for delivery before the end of 2020. I hope to have mine delivered in Europe and do another road trip. I have strong conviction for this car based on what Ive seen, read and also been told in person by a supplier to the GT program. Im not sure why there is confusion on this subject. To me the formular is clear and already communicated. The Mules are well developed now and have been testing a long time. Next we will see the hot weather testing later this year then the final settings tweaks bfore the car brakes cover in 8 months time... --

My god Porsche must love the people on here ....

If the new GT3 effectively becomes the 991 RS it will be interesting to see how far they take the 992 RS You would think it’s going to need 540-550HP to be a step up on the 991RS 520 and to keep ahead of the new GT3

MDL111 said: My god Porsche must love the people on here .... Yep only on here! Never seen so many assumptions,assuming they are assumptions They forgot to say its bigger and still the same weight as the prev model,about time porsche stopped messing around and get back a true drivers car for a spirted owner with some decent weight loss,say 1200kg on the road.

Yellow491 said: Yep only on here! Never seen so many assumptions,assuming they are assumptions They forgot to say its bigger and still the same weight as the prev model,about time porsche stopped messing around and get back a true drivers car for a spirted owner with some decent weight loss,say 1200kg on the road. Agree like I said in the other thread RS models are a weak attempt esp now they weigh more than non RS models and one can strip 60kgs out with ease, Porsche could take out 100kg no problem. What can we say about the 992 , it will be faster than the 991.2. But the ring mules have lost the sound so far, but the cars a long way away yet to work on the sound.

Can’t see we're ever getting down to 1200kgs unless CF is used then it's 300k

I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow.

Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic.

Yellow491 said: Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. what defines a drivers car ? out of interest.

Porsche911R said: Yellow491 said: Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. what defines a drivers car ? out of interest. Needs to be yellow for a start

Yellow491 said: Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. I would say anyone who thinks 300k is mere peanuts for a car must be living in a different World to the majority of us and I can’t really see the current car as a lardy auto,ask Kevin Estre. I watched for years at the race tracks as people tried to find sequential options for road cars in favour of manuals. Now that there is a selection of lightening fast dsg and PDK options everyone harks on about manuals. It might sound harsh but manuals are basically crap, they belong in history books and are comparable to Sunday morning archery! I have several, yes you can change gear with your hand and arm whilst heal and toeing but they are still crap by comparison, just saying, it’s the truth I wonder if you parked a manual car on the beach could you stop the tide coming in? Edited by Juno on Tuesday 2nd July 12:04

Juno said: Yellow491 said: Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. I would say anyone who thinks 300k is mere peanuts for a car must be living in a different World to the majority of us and I can’t really see the current car as a lardy auto,ask Kevin Estre. I watched for years at the race tracks as people tried to find sequential options for road cars in favour of manuals. Now that there is a selection of lightening fast dsg and PDK options everyone harks on about manuals. It might sound harsh but manuals are basically crap, they belong in history books and are comparable to Sunday morning archery! I have several, yes you can change gear with your hand and arm whilst heal and toeing but they are still crap by comparison, just saying, it’s the truth I wonder if you parked a manual car on the beach could you stop the tide coming in? Edited by Juno on Tuesday 2nd July 12:04 One could also ask the other half to use a vibrator rather than shag them ourselves. Manual v PDK..

Bit strong to call them crap isn’t it? Says something about you if you just dismiss other people’s preferences as “crap”. 997 RS and 4.0 both crap then? 991.2GT3 manual crap then? You are probably just getting a bit defensive as a thread has started for the 992 GT3/RS and you haven’t even got your 991 yet? 991RS is soon to become the latest piece of old news imho and all the magpie trophy hunters will move on. That doesn’t apply to the older stuff that’s been old for a while now and has found its place.

I love Juno. Contributed to most amusing thread of 2019 for me by a country mile

IMI A said: I love Juno. Contributed to most amusing thread of 2019 for me by a country mile Be safer than what I would post about PDK owners though :-)

Porsche911R said: IMI A said: I love Juno. Contributed to most amusing thread of 2019 for me by a country mile Be safer than what I would post about PDK owners though :-) Careful. SWMBO has PDK in her 911 cab.....

IMI A said: Careful. SWMBO has PDK in her 911 cab..... I own one also ;-).

Porsche911R said: IMI A said: Careful. SWMBO has PDK in her 911 cab..... I own one also ;-). Tart!

Juno said: Yellow491 said: Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. I would say anyone who thinks 300k is mere peanuts for a car must be living in a different World to the majority of us and I can’t really see the current car as a lardy auto,ask Kevin Estre. I watched for years at the race tracks as people tried to find sequential options for road cars in favour of manuals. Now that there is a selection of lightening fast dsg and PDK options everyone harks on about manuals. It might sound harsh but manuals are basically crap, they belong in history books and are comparable to Sunday morning archery! I have several, yes you can change gear with your hand and arm whilst heal and toeing but they are still crap by comparison, just saying, it’s the truth I wonder if you parked a manual car on the beach could you stop the tide coming in? Edited by Juno on Tuesday 2nd July 12:04 Just being defensive about his new old toy No one said peanuts bar you. I have a manuel change sequential box,nearly as quick as a pdk up the box,far from crap. Fact is they are lardy autos,far from lightweight as the rs always used to be,they could still make one.Think of less consumables on a track car by weight reduction,most will be boulevard cruisers.

Yellow491 said: Juno said: Yellow491 said: Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. I would say anyone who thinks 300k is mere peanuts for a car must be living in a different World to the majority of us and I can’t really see the current car as a lardy auto,ask Kevin Estre. I watched for years at the race tracks as people tried to find sequential options for road cars in favour of manuals. Now that there is a selection of lightening fast dsg and PDK options everyone harks on about manuals. It might sound harsh but manuals are basically crap, they belong in history books and are comparable to Sunday morning archery! I have several, yes you can change gear with your hand and arm whilst heal and toeing but they are still crap by comparison, just saying, it’s the truth I wonder if you parked a manual car on the beach could you stop the tide coming in? Edited by Juno on Tuesday 2nd July 12:04 Just being defensive about his new old toy No one said peanuts bar you. I have a manuel change sequential box,nearly as quick as a pdk up the box,far from crap. Fact is they are lardy autos,far from lightweight as the rs always used to be,they could still make one.Think of less consumables on a track car by weight reduction,most will be boulevard cruisers. You can only remember the rs as a proper lightweight because you're old enough for free prescriptions. Porsche could do it if they wanted, but why bother when they sell like hot cakes. AP is a salesman at the end of the day for all intents and purposes.

993rsr said: Yellow491 said: Juno said: Yellow491 said: Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. I would say anyone who thinks 300k is mere peanuts for a car must be living in a different World to the majority of us and I can’t really see the current car as a lardy auto,ask Kevin Estre. I watched for years at the race tracks as people tried to find sequential options for road cars in favour of manuals. Now that there is a selection of lightening fast dsg and PDK options everyone harks on about manuals. It might sound harsh but manuals are basically crap, they belong in history books and are comparable to Sunday morning archery! I have several, yes you can change gear with your hand and arm whilst heal and toeing but they are still crap by comparison, just saying, it’s the truth I wonder if you parked a manual car on the beach could you stop the tide coming in? Edited by Juno on Tuesday 2nd July 12:04 Just being defensive about his new old toy No one said peanuts bar you. I have a manuel change sequential box,nearly as quick as a pdk up the box,far from crap. Fact is they are lardy autos,far from lightweight as the rs always used to be,they could still make one.Think of less consumables on a track car by weight reduction,most will be boulevard cruisers. You can only remember the rs as a proper lightweight because you're old enough for free prescriptions. Porsche could do it if they wanted, but why bother when they sell like hot cakes. AP is a salesman at the end of the day for all intents and purposes. Very good,very true,i remember AP telling me the 993gt2 was s te and a thing of the past,its a big marketing excercise of which Ap informs most what they want to hear

Just driven back from 200 miles from Chesterfield in a manual 420hp 1200 kg hack,had some fun but I need a Holiday now

993rsr said: Porsche could do it if they wanted, but why bother when they sell like hot cakes. AP is a salesman at the end of the day for all intents and purposes. Tbh I'm not convinced anyone can easily make a true lightweight car (1200kg wet) with a reasonable number of cylinders (ie at least 6!) that sells in sufficient numbers to keep the price reasonable. It's easy to make a very specialised stripped out car like a race/track car thing but the actual number of people willing to buy one would be very low if it isn't expressly limited to hype up the appeal as people spending that kind of money seemingly want nice leather interior, posh sound systems and umpteenth stitching options these days. Once you add all that, even Mclaren (cf monocoque and in some cases cf panels) are unable to make a car that weighs less than 1300kg fully fuelled. Look at the cgt too, magnesium and cf everywhere and it's still a touch over 1450kg with a full tank....There's the Valkyrie of course but that's £3m quid or so and counting Part of the appeal of modern cars actually is their do everything ability, the lardiness contributes to that in many respects so I guess it's not an unreasonable compromise as well.

Yellow491 said: Juno said: Yellow491 said: Taffy66 said: I haven't given the 992GT3 RS a moment's thought as i'm totally focused on my upcoming 991.2GT3 RS WP, which is the limit my feeble brain will allow. Should you not be getting your beauty sleep after midnight. Whats wrong with paying 300k for a proper lightweight drivers car rather than having the latest must have lardy automatic. I would say anyone who thinks 300k is mere peanuts for a car must be living in a different World to the majority of us and I can’t really see the current car as a lardy auto,ask Kevin Estre. I watched for years at the race tracks as people tried to find sequential options for road cars in favour of manuals. Now that there is a selection of lightening fast dsg and PDK options everyone harks on about manuals. It might sound harsh but manuals are basically crap, they belong in history books and are comparable to Sunday morning archery! I have several, yes you can change gear with your hand and arm whilst heal and toeing but they are still crap by comparison, just saying, it’s the truth I wonder if you parked a manual car on the beach could you stop the tide coming in? Edited by Juno on Tuesday 2nd July 12:04 Just being defensive about his new old toy No one said peanuts bar you. I have a manuel change sequential box,nearly as quick as a pdk up the box,far from crap. Fact is they are lardy autos,far from lightweight as the rs always used to be,they could still make one.Think of less consumables on a track car by weight reduction,most will be boulevard cruisers. Manual Sequential,no clutch up or down, that’s cool

isaldiri said: Tbh I'm not convinced anyone can easily make a true lightweight car (1200kg wet) with a reasonable number of cylinders (ie at least 6!) that sells in sufficient numbers to keep the price reasonable. It's easy to make a very specialised stripped out car like a race/track car thing but the actual number of people willing to buy one would be very low if it isn't expressly limited to hype up the appeal as people spending that kind of money seemingly want nice leather interior, posh sound systems and umpteenth stitching options these days. Once you add all that, even Mclaren (cf monocoque and in some cases cf panels) are unable to make a car that weighs less than 1300kg fully fuelled. Look at the cgt too, magnesium and cf everywhere and it's still a touch over 1450kg with a full tank....There's the Valkyrie of course but that's £3m quid or so and counting Part of the appeal of modern cars actually is their do everything ability, the lardiness contributes to that in many respects so I guess it's not an unreasonable compromise as well. Noble had a good go with the Noble M400 1080kgs and Ultimas new RS looks pretty trick!

Juno said: isaldiri said: Tbh I'm not convinced anyone can easily make a true lightweight car (1200kg wet) with a reasonable number of cylinders (ie at least 6!) that sells in sufficient numbers to keep the price reasonable. It's easy to make a very specialised stripped out car like a race/track car thing but the actual number of people willing to buy one would be very low if it isn't expressly limited to hype up the appeal as people spending that kind of money seemingly want nice leather interior, posh sound systems and umpteenth stitching options these days. Once you add all that, even Mclaren (cf monocoque and in some cases cf panels) are unable to make a car that weighs less than 1300kg fully fuelled. Look at the cgt too, magnesium and cf everywhere and it's still a touch over 1450kg with a full tank....There's the Valkyrie of course but that's £3m quid or so and counting Part of the appeal of modern cars actually is their do everything ability, the lardiness contributes to that in many respects so I guess it's not an unreasonable compromise as well. Noble had a good go with the Noble M400 1080kgs and Ultimas new RS looks pretty trick! I would have actually bought the Ultima Evo (is that the name?) if the delivery time had been like 6 months as opposed to 2.5 to 3 years - once you added all the options, it was not exactly cheap though I am not a particular fan of the new Porsche RS offerings, but at least they show up at track days - so some of the thousands of buyers do seem to use them as intended instead of as boulevard cruisers If they built a proper lightweight car (ideally without a PDK, would like sth more mechanical feeling not necessarily manual though, i’d be game) It is unlikely though given that people who have not even received their car are already discussing the next iteration - long may it continue for Porsche’s sake - I doubt it will though once every change costs 30-50k again in depreciation

Interesting car on top gear sunday eve with 400bhp,at 200k, chris seemed to like it after his bullying Why do gt cars need such big heavy wheels and tyres,and disc brakes that you could put tyres on,apart from coping with the lateral grip and weight.

MDL111 said: I would have actually bought the Ultima Evo (is that the name?) if the delivery time had been like 6 months as opposed to 2.5 to 3 years - once you added all the options, it was not exactly cheap though I am not a particular fan of the new Porsche RS offerings, but at least they show up at track days - so some of the thousands of buyers do seem to use them as intended instead of as boulevard cruisers If they built a proper lightweight car (ideally without a PDK, would like sth more mechanical feeling not necessarily manual though, i’d be game) It is unlikely though given that people who have not even received their car are already discussing the next iteration - long may it continue for Porsche’s sake - I doubt it will though once every change costs 30-50k again in depreciation You got to do something while you wait!

Yellow491 said: Interesting car on top gear sunday eve with 400bhp,at 200k, chris seemed to like it after his bullying Why do gt cars need such big heavy wheels and tyres,and disc brakes that you could put tyres on,apart from coping with the lateral grip and weight. The Dallara seemed very impressive apart from the stupid doors. Edited by Taffy66 on Tuesday 2nd July 21:12

Taffy66 said: Yellow491 said: Interesting car on top gear sunday eve with 400bhp,at 200k, chris seemed to like it after his bullying Why do gt cars need such big heavy wheels and tyres,and disc brakes that you could put tyres on,apart from coping with the lateral grip and weight. The Dallara seemed very impressive apart from the stupid doors. Edited by Taffy66 on Tuesday 2nd July 21:12 Er 200k,I cant see many on here parting with that sort of dosh for a jumped up carbon Exige

Juno said: Just driven back from 200 miles from Chesterfield in a manual 420hp 1200 kg hack,had some fun but I need a Holiday now You just need to get fitter mate;)

Yellow491 said: Juno said: Just driven back from 200 miles from Chesterfield in a manual 420hp 1200 kg hack,had some fun but I need a Holiday now You just need to get fitter mate;) FITTER

Juno said: MDL111 said: I would have actually bought the Ultima Evo (is that the name?) if the delivery time had been like 6 months as opposed to 2.5 to 3 years - once you added all the options, it was not exactly cheap though I am not a particular fan of the new Porsche RS offerings, but at least they show up at track days - so some of the thousands of buyers do seem to use them as intended instead of as boulevard cruisers If they built a proper lightweight car (ideally without a PDK, would like sth more mechanical feeling not necessarily manual though, i’d be game) It is unlikely though given that people who have not even received their car are already discussing the next iteration - long may it continue for Porsche’s sake - I doubt it will though once every change costs 30-50k again in depreciation You got to do something while you wait! That is a valid point - spending way too much time on here, so every topic that is not about stitching color or values is a win

isaldiri said: It's easy to make a very specialised stripped out car like a race/track car thing but the actual number of people willing to buy one would be very low if it isn't expressly limited to hype up the appeal as people spending that kind of money seemingly want nice leather interior, posh sound systems and umpteenth stitching options these days. it's extremely easy, all you need is to remove the back seats (optional) remove the AC (optional) lightweight windows (optional) and fabric door pulls, put sport chrono as standard then watch the money fly in

930 KGS 1200HP available if you want it! No aids so guess you can’t get much more driver focused than that,I’ll guess about 130-150k all done,any takers ? AND ITS MAN WELL

I am sure its a weapon but it needs a pedigree

Yellow491 said: I am sure its a weapon but it needs a pedigree But does it need pedigree, if as people say it’s all about the drive then why does it need pedigree? Unless of course we are back to future values! If it does what to says on the tin is that not enough They have also been around for a good few years now and dont appear to be going away as many others have Edited by Juno on Wednesday 3rd July 13:55

They seem to be doing well given the waiting times (I am not brave or talented enough to build something that can hit speeds in excess of 10 mph myself ....) I think I'd probably wreck it quickly though - one thing to like no-aids driver cars, another thing to be able to drive one with that amount of horsepower. Might still get one one day to scare myself and "dominate" track days ...

Fast forward a few years from when this thread started.... 2022 PORSCHE 992 GT3 RS SPIED TESTING ON THE NÜRBURGRING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtaAq3eS8tc

Still begs the question - WHEN WILL IT BE RELEASED!!!!

Soon. V soon

I expect to get one to add to my existing ones, but it will be wildly impractical...no frunk, fixed LWBs, so limited access for luggage. I normally do a factory pickup and do a couple of weeks touring and track days pretty much right away. Evidently this is likely to be a solo event. Still. should be an interesting car.

MeisterH said: Soon. V soon It that a guess or based on some inside knowledge?

Sport_Turismo_GTS said: It that a guess or based on some inside knowledge? I dont guess. soon

Ok is it only me but does the wing just look really stupid. Too high for bacon sarnies on a track day…

Snowy999 said: Ok is it only me but does the wing just look really stupid. Too high for bacon sarnies on a track day… Apparently the DRS function also doubles as a panini maker.

MeisterH said: Sport_Turismo_GTS said: It that a guess or based on some inside knowledge? I dont guess. soon

MeisterH said: Soon. V soon V. Soon = Longer than 3 Months?

APOLO1 said: MeisterH said: Soon. V soon V. Soon = Longer than 3 Months? We should expect to see it a Goodwood I understand.

NoPDK said: We should expect to see it a Goodwood I understand. This.

You will need blacked out windows to be driving that monstrosity on the road.

Yellow491 said: You will need blacked out windows to be driving that monstrosity on the road. Good job the world is a Universally diverse place, wouldn't life be boring otherwise......

Yellow491 said: You will need blacked out windows to be driving that monstrosity on the road. I agree however It'll look fantastic on track. Flippers don't give two hoots what it looks like or drives like, just how much profit on SOR.

Taffy66 said: Yellow491 said: You will need blacked out windows to be driving that monstrosity on the road. I agree however It'll look fantastic on track. Flippers don't give two hoots what it looks like or drives like, just how much profit on SOR. It may look ok on the track if you trailer it out of sight cup will look better on track.

Taffy66 said: I agree however It'll look fantastic on track. Flippers don't give two hoots what it looks like or drives like, just how much profit on SOR. I tend to disagree with this taffy, my view will be this car will be a very dedicated track tool which most, if not all buyers, will be solely track nuts. As a current 992 GT3 owner (Yes i still own the car) the everyday usability for me, is compromised, which i have be transparent in regards to. Yeah your get the odd few which will skip the net sure, but i really think from what i been advised this will be more hardcore than a 2RS all-day-long. Cant fricking wait!!

I suspect that very few people if any would have this as their only car. Agree it is mainly for track- not likely to even fit luggage for two people for a weekend. I generally do factory delivery and do a few weeks combined road and track time. The track time is obvious but the lack of space with nothing in front is not great.

Should be a small Frunk area to store at least a Lid or a pack of Rebull for circuit use obviously!

My wife wouldn’t be seen dead in it, nor would her luggage fit for a weekend away. The seats will hurt her back and it will be too noisy and too firm a ride for her. I really hope I get one.

APOLO1 said: Wonder how much Bhp it will have, i note that in some Spy Shots its on 275 fronts and 335 rears, thats some rubber... 550 would be my guess....any less would a damp squib of a PR release.

APOLO1 said: Wonder how much Bhp it will have, i note that in some Spy Shots its on 275 fronts and 335 rears, thats some rubber... 4L with 530PS I've been told with emphasis on huge aero and grip. Very hard springs to cope

Taffy66 said: APOLO1 said: Wonder how much Bhp it will have, i note that in some Spy Shots its on 275 fronts and 335 rears, thats some rubber... 4L with 530PS I've been told with emphasis on huge aero and grip. Very hard springs to cope Sound about right, with a higher red line I hope

Taffy66 said: APOLO1 said: Wonder how much Bhp it will have, i note that in some Spy Shots its on 275 fronts and 335 rears, thats some rubber... 4L with 530PS I've been told with emphasis on huge aero and grip. Very hard springs to cope Everyone was downplaying the GT4RS BHP at the time. I am confident the Gt3RS will be 550. 530 is not enough to shout about as a business case.

APOLO1 said: I am inclined to agree with you J, the last WP RS was what 520 Plus with its ramm effect, if this new car is going to run 275s and 335s then I would expect to see around 560 Plus. IMO Edited by APOLO1 on Sunday 17th April 19:50 Porsche normally give the RS only 20-25PS over the GT3 however the GT4 RS got a massive 80PS over the GT4, so who knows what Porsche will do ? To go above 530 I suspect they'll need to increase the capacity to 4.2L in the interest of long term engine longevity. OTOH they might just keep the 4L 530PS giving headroom for the final RS anniversary with 4.2L and 560PS. Its fun guessing but only Porsche know for sure.

If they are going to run 275 and 335 tyres then it's going to need substantial upgrade of engine. Maybe they will give it a brand new engine and share it with a .2 992 GT3 but derated as the tyres will not be any good for the road.

julian987R said: Taffy66 said: APOLO1 said: Wonder how much Bhp it will have, i note that in some Spy Shots its on 275 fronts and 335 rears, thats some rubber... 4L with 530PS I've been told with emphasis on huge aero and grip. Very hard springs to cope Everyone was downplaying the GT4RS BHP at the time. I am confident the Gt3RS will be 550. 530 is not enough to shout about as a business case. The 992 GT3 barely had an increase in BHP over 991.2 (I think the smallest BHP increase ever from generation to generation of GT3)….it hasn’t impacted the desirability of that model one bit. All about suspension and Nurburgring lap time…..the latter is what the marketing dept wants. I am sure the RS will be other worldly around the ‘ring given the rumours and nobody will really care about the engine output IMHO.

On those tyres with the size of the spoiler on it, that’ll probably go round corners be they fast or slow quite well ...

The active rear wing will hugely reduce drag on straights whilst increasing down force on high speed corners. As long as the latest track spec compound and width or tyres as well as increased spring rates to cope, then a extra paltry 10PS will be enough for a substantially faster Nurburgring time.

The car must be close with the latest ring footage, look like its on a hop lap. what your thoughts?

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All the flippers pissing themselves with excitement at the prospect of getting their greedy mitts on one of these, could use the huge downforce as an excuse on why It'll be stuck to the OPC showroom floor.

Very good of porsche - Comes with a free ironing board for the missus

Would sir like a GT3 RS with your new wing?

I’m not sure if they made the wing big enough! Could also do with being a couple of feet higher 🙄

Looks f daft on a road car,you wil look a proper tit driving that on the road Taff,unless you want to look a proper Tit See you at clm,we are arriving thursday morning,first practice friday morning and sat morning.

Yellow491 said: Looks f daft on a road car,you wil look a proper tit driving that on the road Taff,unless you want to look a proper Tit See you at clm,we are arriving thursday morning,first practice friday morning and sat morning. I know people with thick skin but not sure any of them would be brave enough to drive that on a public road.

franki68 said: Yellow491 said: Looks f daft on a road car,you wil look a proper tit driving that on the road Taff,unless you want to look a proper Tit See you at clm,we are arriving thursday morning,first practice friday morning and sat morning. I know people with thick skin but not sure any of them would be brave enough to drive that on a public road. This is a car you only drive on public roads on your way to a trackday. I tend to drive to trackdays the evening before because my nearest (Oulton) is over 120 miles away. If I got a 992GT3 RS I would leave home the night before only after dark. The usual suspects on here who are their OPCs VIP flippers will no doubt publish pictures on here in front of their home before driving straight back within a week to park(flip) at their OPC. Seriously If offered one I'd gladly accept and use it exclusively for trackdays. Anyone who gets one but never goes near a track will look a right plonker poncing about on public roads.

Taffy66 said: franki68 said: Yellow491 said: Looks f daft on a road car,you wil look a proper tit driving that on the road Taff,unless you want to look a proper Tit See you at clm,we are arriving thursday morning,first practice friday morning and sat morning. I know people with thick skin but not sure any of them would be brave enough to drive that on a public road. This is a car you only drive on public roads on your way to a trackday. I tend to drive to trackdays the evening before because my nearest (Oulton) is over 120 miles away. If I got a 992GT3 RS I would leave home the night before only after dark. The usual suspects on here who are their OPCs VIP flippers will no doubt publish pictures on here in front of their home before driving straight back within a week to park(flip) at their OPC. Seriously If offered one I'd gladly accept and use it exclusively for trackdays. Anyone who gets one but never goes near a track will look a right plonker poncing about on public roads. So you like to look like a tit ;)

Cheib said: The 992 GT3 barely had an increase in BHP over 991.2 (I think the smallest BHP increase ever from generation to generation of GT3)….it hasn’t impacted the desirability of that model one bit. All about suspension and Nurburgring lap time…..the latter is what the marketing dept wants. I am sure the RS will be other worldly around the ‘ring given the rumours and nobody will really care about the engine output IMHO. Spot on IMO. It's the chassis that sets the 2.1 apart from the 1.2. A major step forward - albeit I'd prefer the new chassis (and improved manual gearbox and steering feel) in the shape of the 1.2...

Taffy66 said: This is a car you only drive on public roads on your way to a trackday. I tend to drive to trackdays the evening before because my nearest (Oulton) is over 120 miles away. If I got a 992GT3 RS I would leave home the night before only after dark. The usual suspects on here who are their OPCs VIP flippers will no doubt publish pictures on here in front of their home before driving straight back within a week to park(flip) at their OPC. Seriously If offered one I'd gladly accept and use it exclusively for trackdays. Anyone who gets one but never goes near a track will look a right plonker poncing about on public roads. I wouldnt be ashamed to 'ponce' about in one of these, going to be incredible...

Changing the subject slightly… where’s the main man who Stsrted this thread?? Juno?? Wonder how he’s finding his GT3-RS Edited by MeisterH on Saturday 18th June 19:57

MeisterH said: Changing the subject slightly… where’s the main man who Stsrted this thread?? Juno?? Wonder how he’s finding his GT3-RS Edited by MeisterH on Saturday 18th June 19:57 Can’t find a fishing smilie

A big difference between a .2 GT3 and .2 GT3 RS was the much better turn-in/rotation. I have not driven a 992 GT3 so would be interested to know from those that have driven both how it compares to a .2 GT3 RS? Which leads to my other question of whether anyone has any knowledge/speculation on what the big difference will be between 992 GT3 and 992 GT3 RS (aero-aside)?

nw942 said: A big difference between a .2 GT3 and .2 GT3 RS was the much better turn-in/rotation. I have not driven a 992 GT3 so would be interested to know from those that have driven both how it compares to a .2 GT3 RS? Which leads to my other question of whether anyone has any knowledge/speculation on what the big difference will be between 992 GT3 and 992 GT3 RS (aero-aside)? About 30 grand

Latest pictures from EVO show the car largely undisguised. https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs/204923/99...

Bar the wing, it does look as if they have thrown the kitchen sink at pure Aero on it! Has me excited for sure

Hopefully the wing and all the black plastic that people moaned about on GT3 means there’s loads to go around for us track rats. Might even get a discount. Personally, I love it already.

Looks interesting

Mad Scientist said: Personally, I love it already. Me too

It looks mean as hell especially in all Black including wheels. Such a pity that most will be given to the OPCs favourite VIP flippers who can be relied upon not to take it on track and to bring it back within a few months to the supplying OPC to share the spoils. My one major misgiving with the 992RS is there seems to be zilch boot space in the front bonnet. I've taken my son to five trackdays this year and we just manage to squeeze two tiny overnight bags and two helmets in the front boot. This doesn't seem to be possible in the new RS so it really won't suit me, however If by some freak chance I get offered one I'll still take it and leave luggage at home.

Well it certainly isn't pretty, so it better be good. But a one trick pony ?

Taffy66 said: It looks mean as hell especially in all Black including wheels. Such a pity that most will be given to the OPCs favourite VIP flippers who can be relied upon not to take it on track and to bring it back within a few months to the supplying OPC to share the spoils. My one major misgiving with the 992RS is there seems to be zilch boot space in the front bonnet. I've taken my son to five trackdays this year and we just manage to squeeze two tiny overnight bags and two helmets in the front boot. This doesn't seem to be possible in the new RS so it really won't suit me, however If by some freak chance I get offered one I'll still take it and leave luggage at home. You can wear your helmets and all your clothes on the journey there and back. Just don’t delete the climate.

Mad Scientist said: You can wear your helmets and all your clothes on the journey there and back. Just don’t delete the climate. AC absolute essential on any car you take on track IMO. It was pretty hot at Donnington on Monday and the AC was full blast. Really don't get it why some tick the AC delete box.

Taffy66 said: AC absolute essential on any car you take on track IMO. It was pretty hot at Donnington on Monday and the AC was full blast. Really don't get it why some tick the AC delete box. Totally agree. However, I also worry abut the luggage space. In the past I have picked up my GT cars at the factory, done a bit of touring before going to the tracks and it has become a sort of tradition. So the issue seems to be that the car cannot be used that way which is a concern; further non-folding buckets means that whatever limited space is available is also not all that accessible. So, at best this is a solo car that you can put some soft luggage on the passenger seat and jam some stuff in the back, and that assumes some space in the frunk for a helmet. Definitely not a weekender.

I personally love the design of it, but then I also think the McLaren Senna looks quite cool as well, another car that splits opinions looks wise. I wouldn't mind being seen in one (Although my dealer probably won't give me one)

Tripe Bypass said: Latest pictures from EVO show the car largely undisguised. https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs/204923/99... OMG And the prize for the most ridiculous rear wing goes to ............ I would be too embarrassed to be seen in that chav mobile. Max power meets boy racer from local council estate. FFS you wouldn't want to stop at any traffic lights in that, people will be pi55ing themselves laughing at you. Almost makes the senna good looking

Bloody hell that does look a bit bonkers just needs a massive Porsche logo. Love the turned down tailpipes, every little bit helps for track day noise limits. Hope they make the cut.

Curledge said: OMG And the prize for the most ridiculous rear wing goes to ............ I would be too embarrassed to be seen in that chav mobile. Max power meets boy racer from local council estate. FFS you wouldn't want to stop at any traffic lights in that, people will be pi55ing themselves laughing at you. Almost makes the senna good looking Grow up FFS. You obviously don't grasp the concept of aero, we should only expect a small uplift of extra BHP and if what I'm hearing is correct, a Ridiculous fast lap time so all the 'Max power' aero you talk of, well don't worry yourself too much. I was into Max power back in the day, collected all the magazines and i had awesome teenage years going to cruises and showing my cars on max power stands! Edited by MeisterH on Wednesday 22 June 07:48

anonymous said: [redacted] The New RS i think will shock the motoring world, being a NA with the huge amount of of aero that it will have and the lap times that it be able to achieve. Like most, i am slightly concerned will it be a one trick pony? My GT3 on a B road is a challenge putting it lightly.

MeisterH said: The New RS i think will shock the motoring world, being a NA with the huge amount of of aero that it will have and the lap times that it be able to achieve. How much aero do you think is going to be all that relevant at most 'normal' cornering speeds in context of a 1500kg car?

Ordered my .2 RS in comfort as really did not want a roll cage , done 29 k miles in it and 12 tracks days as well as some hill climbs . I would do the same again . Was brought to enjoy not speculate

hunter 66 said: Ordered my .2 RS in comfort as really did not want a roll cage , done 29 k miles in it and 12 tracks days as well as some hill climbs . I would do the same again . Was brought to enjoy not speculate To enjoy cruising the harrods boulevard.

Yellow491 said: To enjoy cruising the harrods boulevard. Always

hornbaek said: Why would you ever spec the comfort seats in a 992 GT3 RS and no rollcage - makes zero sense (unless off course it’s specced for the Kings Rd rather than the track). I seem to have answered my own question. That car was supplied new by the same dealership last month, it’s looks to have been specified to be different to all the others currently for sale. Maybe it’s been built like this to maximise profit. They supplied and resold a similar sofa spec WP gt4rs recently. I guess the dealers now need to mix it up a bit to make their cars different from others for sale. Makes a lot of sense to have sofas if someone actually wants to use their GT car more regularly on the road.

GT4RS said: That car was supplied new by the same dealership last month, it’s looks to have been specified to be different to all the others currently for sale. Maybe it’s been built like this to maximise profit. They supplied and resold a similar sofa spec WP gt4rs recently. I guess the dealers now need to mix it up a bit to make their cars different from others for sale. Makes a lot of sense to have sofas if someone actually wants to use their GT car more regularly on the road. My 991RS. has sofas and the 992 has the LWBs. Both are tracked. I think the sofas have an undeserved bad reputation. probably the nickname. Of course not as supportive as the LWBs but on balance they are a valid choice unless the car is track only. I am hoping the folding LWBs are back for the next RS as the present car is very compromised for luggage. All good for dedicated track car, otherwise a PITA.

hunter 66 said: Yellow491 said: To enjoy cruising the harrods boulevard. Always Safer than passing on foot, it would seem.

Mankers said: ChrisW. said: This was my spec ... but I bought a similar spec 991.2 GT3RS instead ... I wonder for how long Porsche will continue manufacturing the 992 GT3RS? Or have they stopped already ? PSK5PFX2 I know someone who collected theirs last week, so still making them! +1, mines delivered next month

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kmpowell said: Agreed, used to like his stuff but just so boring now, just the newest thing, rinse repeat with a coffee in hand. No wonder he only has a few k followers and Matt Armstrong has millions! Matt worked for it too. Edit, I was linked somehow to mr jww with his newest trinket. Edited by Youforreal. on Tuesday 24th December 18:10

ChrisW. said: Nosher, wont watch this but i bet he talks about ‘the relationship between the engine and the gearbox’

430scuderia1 said: Nosher, wont watch this but i bet he talks about ‘the relationship between the engine and the gearbox’ Have a bump for using 'Nosher'

guyvert1 said: 430scuderia1 said: Nosher, wont watch this but i bet he talks about ‘the relationship between the engine and the gearbox’ Have a bump for using 'Nosher' And another. I used to work with a guy who went to school with the bloke, so what you might suspect is broadly what you get, apparently.

I have to spec a 992 RS. Thinking about white car without Weissach. (Clubsport, camera, lift, 90L) Which options are additionally mandatory? (full leather, PCCB, Bose...nowadays) ?

Everything you mentioned plus heated searts. Are the matrix LED lights worth the extra? Personally I would jazz up the interior with the extra leather in contrast stitch The “Interior Trim Package with decorative Stitching and Embroidery in contrasting Colour” option plus dashboard and steering column leather but hardly a must have. And lots of paint protection to all the vulnerable bits And the gold lightweight wheels look great with white

DK7 said: I have to spec a 992 RS. Thinking about white car without Weissach. (Clubsport, camera, lift, 90L) Which options are additionally mandatory? (full leather, PCCB, Bose...nowadays) ? If you plan to tour in it, a tow bar or roof rack (will they fit ?) To be serious, I would be surprised if many are specced with "fancy pants" interiors ... I chose these ... PSK8RIF4 PSK5PFX2 I would have put magnesium wheels on the non-weissach car and would probably have put Surface Transform discs on both ... depending upon the intensity of track day use. According to Evo it also makes a very good road car !! (I have never driven one) ...

A really basic spec is quite appealing. Buckets Pccb Nothing else!

DK7 said: I have to spec a 992 RS. Thinking about white car without Weissach. (Clubsport, camera, lift, 90L) Which options are additionally mandatory? (full leather, PCCB, Bose...nowadays) ? I have similar to this spec, wasn’t my decision as second owner but love the car!! Has a couple of other changes as well, green wheels/stitching and roll cage etc! Helps it stand out a bit

Lovely colour this one https://www.oakmoorecarcompany.co.uk/vehicle/porsc...

2 years in the making with $220,000 of extra options. https://www.motor1.com/news/755833/porsche-911-gt3...

Jones the cat said: 2 years in the making with $220,000 of extra options. https://www.motor1.com/news/755833/porsche-911-gt3... "Dunna go t' London shag, the streets inna paved wi' gowd, they're covered wi' s te!" (Shane Meadows IIRC)

Jones the cat said: Lovely colour this one https://www.oakmoorecarcompany.co.uk/vehicle/porsc... Really like that one - but what's that periscope thingy on the N/S? Looks like one of those wading snorkels you see on Land Rovers with too-big tyres. Looking at other images, seems to be a mark on the picture, but a daft error to list it like that.

That is the Dream Car Giveaways prize. Clearly there took the £250k. That dealer is either the same company or has some deal as they often sell their prizes.

Digga said: Jones the cat said: 2 years in the making with $220,000 of extra options. https://www.motor1.com/news/755833/porsche-911-gt3... "Dunna go t' London shag, the streets inna paved wi' gowd, they're covered wi' s te!" (Shane Meadows IIRC) where is the poster who had the gold colored cars, this is right up his street

MDL111 said: where is the poster who had the gold colored cars, this is right up his street Gulzar? Not shiny enough for him I'd have thought

Digga said: Jones the cat said: 2 years in the making with $220,000 of extra options. https://www.motor1.com/news/755833/porsche-911-gt3... "Dunna go t' London shag, the streets inna paved wi' gowd, they're covered wi' s te!" (Shane Meadows IIRC) Struggling to see $220k worth of extra's there, even allowing for Porsche.

epom said: Struggling to see $220k worth of extra's there, even allowing for Porsche. Half of that will be the Chromaflair paint. Once you go Sonderwunsch, everything is disproportionately expensive.

epom said: Struggling to see $220k worth of extra's there, even allowing for Porsche. Same here, I'm guessing there's a lot of Sonderwusch in there

DannyScene said: MDL111 said: where is the poster who had the gold colored cars, this is right up his street Gulzar? Not shiny enough for him I'd have thought that is the one. I could not recall his name yeah possibly, would need to be a little more bespoke

Nuttcase said: epom said: Struggling to see $220k worth of extra's there, even allowing for Porsche. Half of that will be the Chromaflair paint. Once you go Sonderwunsch, everything is disproportionately expensive. to me it looks like the normal options (Weissach etc) plus the very expensive paint and some stitching.

Bonkers what you can spend now, I was at Sonderwunch last month, the Taycan has a €200000 paint job. Staggering what they will do now, SW has come a long way since Mansour Ojeh's 935 which was the first SW car. If you want something more extreme, the classic department will make a one of car (991 GT3RS Targa anyone) starting at €3m euros with an 8 year wait.

993rsr said: Bonkers what you can spend now, I was at Sonderwunch last month, the Taycan has a €200000 paint job. Can you just rock up at Sonderwunch or do you have to be invited ?

Nurburgsingh said: 993rsr said: Bonkers what you can spend now, I was at Sonderwunch last month, the Taycan has a €200000 paint job. Can you just rock up at Sonderwunch or do you have to be invited ? Just certified..

I had a look at this 2RS Sunderwunsch with the special paint a couple of years ago....massively expensive thing it was too. I get my GT cars in just regular colours as this stuff while nice has little value for me.

Nurburgsingh said: 993rsr said: Bonkers what you can spend now, I was at Sonderwunch last month, the Taycan has a €200000 paint job. Can you just rock up at Sonderwunch or do you have to be invited ? Not as far as I know. I was there to see a SW car completed ahead of shipping for my friend who couldn't make it as he was overseas. I know one of the SW guys so pop in when I'm passing. The've also just started offering the Classic restoration service on 918, saw the first car they have done. Classic department are stacked out with CGT's for customisation (starting at €400,000). Edited by 993rsr on Tuesday 8th April 17:18

I like the interior on the 2RS makes a nice change from all black

A rather special Sonderwunsch one listed today https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18526135

Jones the cat said: A rather special Sonderwunsch one listed today https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18526135 Silver with some seat inserts. Not sure its particualy special

jhowlett said: Jones the cat said: A rather special Sonderwunsch one listed today https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18526135 Silver with some seat inserts. Not sure its particualy special Looks like a 2023 car far too expensive My Weissach 992 RS (2025) is for sale soon with 263 miles only, and will be advertised on here for about the same price

jhowlett said: Silver with some seat inserts. Not sure its particualy special Looks a lot better with painted front spoiler, looks like a few extra stitched Race-Tex bits inside too

Jones the cat said: A rather special Sonderwunsch one listed today https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18526135 What am I missing on this special car other than the seat inserts?

RS Guy said: Looks like a 2023 car far too expensive My Weissach 992 RS (2025) is for sale soon with 263 miles only, and will be advertised on here for about the same price You did not like the RS?

throt said: RS Guy said: Looks like a 2023 car far too expensive My Weissach 992 RS (2025) is for sale soon with 263 miles only, and will be advertised on here for about the same price You did not like the RS? The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now

RS Guy said: throt said: RS Guy said: Looks like a 2023 car far too expensive My Weissach 992 RS (2025) is for sale soon with 263 miles only, and will be advertised on here for about the same price You did not like the RS? The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now I think the Touring is a good choice, let us know how that goes compared to RS cars.

GTRene said: RS Guy said: throt said: RS Guy said: Looks like a 2023 car far too expensive My Weissach 992 RS (2025) is for sale soon with 263 miles only, and will be advertised on here for about the same price You did not like the RS? The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now I think the Touring is a good choice, let us know how that goes compared to RS cars. Will do, collection circa October.

RS Guy said: The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now I am almost 77 and agreed the ride is not exactly limo-like. I have also my 991.1RS with comfort seats unlike the LWBs in the my 992. The difference is massive.

DannyScene said: Jones the cat said: A rather special Sonderwunsch one listed today https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18526135 What am I missing on this special car other than the seat inserts? floor mats and some extra stitching on the kick guard

Actually the ”inner door sill” but unnoticed that. Surely the best bit is the painted front spoiler

RDMcG said: I am almost 77 and agreed the ride is not exactly limo-like. I have also my 991.1RS with comfort seats unlike the LWBs in the my 992. The difference is massive. I had a 991.2 RS with buckets and yes comfort seats would be better.

Adam. said: Actually the inner door sill but unnoticed that. Surely the best bit is the painted front spoiler In my eyes that just looks wrong

RS Guy said: The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now I mostly drive mine in track and yes, it can be hard but, that is what it is all about. Driving in all standard form I find it very pliable, anyway, all the best with the Touring.

RDMcG said: RS Guy said: The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now I am almost 77 and agreed the ride is not exactly limo-like. I have also my 991.1RS with comfort seats unlike the LWBs in the my 992. The difference is massive. You guys are role models! I genuinely hope I'm still cutting about in wholly inappropriate track based supercars when I'm your age.

Wheelspinning said: You guys are role models! I genuinely hope I'm still cutting about in wholly inappropriate track based supercars when I'm your age. I am not on the list for for CF lighweight Porsche rocking chair yet

Jones the cat said: DannyScene said: Jones the cat said: A rather special Sonderwunsch one listed today https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/18526135 What am I missing on this special car other than the seat inserts? floor mats and some extra stitching on the kick guard Oooh I really like the way the stealth fighter spec for an RS.

RS Guy said: throt said: RS Guy said: Looks like a 2023 car far too expensive My Weissach 992 RS (2025) is for sale soon with 263 miles only, and will be advertised on here for about the same price You did not like the RS? The ride was too harsh for me, worse than my old 991.2 RS, but I am 80! Got a slot for a Touring now I should start buying from UK OPCs and then hopefully by the time I'm 80 I'll get a slot for a Touring, lol, only thirty years to go. I've lived outside of the UK for twenty years so I have a great relationship with the local guys here for everything from Porsche to Rolex, but that counts for absolutely zip in the UK, I went into my local UK OPC and they showed me some Taycans and suggested I bend over and grit my teeth. Edited by harryblue on Friday 18th July 14:11

I was at Reading OPC earlier and they have Mat Watson's silver GT3 RS for sale. I preferred the green one with the "UFO" plate I saw in the car park though.

130R said: I was at Reading OPC earlier and they have Mat Watson's silver GT3 RS for sale. I preferred the green one with the "UFO" plate I saw in the car park though. PRO5T said: RS15 UFO https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdeUrj9P/

Oof, that was the one (looking in better shape now fortunately)

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And that's why many end up, up trees and in the rivers. The ground a 9923RS covers is insane, when on it but, if you over cook it on a part that you can't get back on top of, then it's simply too late.

I was talking to Leyton a RMA and he said that many can no longer get trackday insurance because when the 992 GT3RS does let go it's often hard to get it back due to disruption of the downforce and the pace involved ...

ChrisW. said: I was talking to Leyton a RMA and he said that many can no longer get trackday insurance because when the 992 GT3RS does let go it's often hard to get it back due to disruption of the downforce and the pace involved ... Can’t believe many folks other than Tim Harvey and Leyton are close to that point on track in one .

Considering you can get race car insurance I struggle to think you can't get track day ins. on a GT3 RS, whether you want to stump up the readies or think those readies are worth it is another thing...

PRO5T said: Considering you can get race car insurance I struggle to think you can't get track day ins. on a GT3 RS, whether you want to stump up the readies or think those readies are worth it is another thing... You can get UK trackday insurance, but European options have thus far been impossible to find - unless someone knows different - a number of companies that would have insured previously state that they won’t cover over £200k value and they also won’t do part value anymore

How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so...

According to the comments it sold now. Did make the rounds on a few groups this week. Lovely car - if I was in the market for one - its the one I would have bought.

993rsr said: ChrisW. said: I was talking to Leyton a RMA and he said that many can no longer get trackday insurance because when the 992 GT3RS does let go it's often hard to get it back due to disruption of the downforce and the pace involved ... Can t believe many folks other than Tim Harvey and Leyton are close to that point on track in one . I was pax in a car in the ‘Ring earlier this month (river will remain nameless) that was on that edge. Utterly incredible. Yes, it struck me a few times just how committed you have to be with these cars.

Even of I was more talented or had a lot more practice, I think I would still be too chicken to get close to that - or probably crash long before that becomes an issue due to just misjudging something / not reacting quickly enough even at a much lower speed

MDL111 said: Even of I was more talented or had a lot more practice, I think I would still be too chicken to get close to that - or probably crash long before that becomes an issue due to just misjudging something / not reacting quickly enough even at a much lower speed I’m conflicted by it. On the one hand, I watch in awe on YouTube as DannyDC2 is doing sub-8’s in his little 140hp MR2, but then the straights - especially Kesselchen - look interminably boring with a 135mph vmax. Outright speed is like crack cocaine. Can you ever have enough? Yes, but every hit feels better until it goes wrong.

kmpowell said: How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so... That’s almost a sleeper

kmpowell said: How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so... At list?

Digga said: MDL111 said: Even of I was more talented or had a lot more practice, I think I would still be too chicken to get close to that - or probably crash long before that becomes an issue due to just misjudging something / not reacting quickly enough even at a much lower speed I m conflicted by it. On the one hand, I watch in awe on YouTube as DannyDC2 is doing sub-8 s in his little 140hp MR2, but then the straights - especially Kesselchen - look interminably boring with a 135mph vmax. Outright speed is like crack cocaine. Can you ever have enough? Yes, but every hit feels better until it goes wrong. Nothing more exhilarating than going through a corner really fast, that is why I loved my (on straights rather slow) 430 Challenge on slicks. But given I have first hand experience what it feels like to crash with bad consequences at high speed, at some point I just started thinking about the consequences of a tiny mistake a little too much (or I just got old, see chicken above). So I sold it in the end even though it was a lot of fun to drive (the rest of ownership was a bit of a hassle, looked cool though which counts for something).

forest172 said: kmpowell said: How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so... At list? Yes was avaialble at list.

forest172 said: kmpowell said: How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so... At list? In the UK, OPC's aren't allowed to sell brand new & unregistered cars for over list price.

This car is one of three RS cars at this dealership, been on for at least a couple of months!! The market sure is slow

kmpowell said: In the UK, OPC's aren't allowed to sell brand new & unregistered cars for over list price. didn`t think they could. So should see some used under list now then

What is list on the GT3 RS BTW at Porsche Mid Sussex? Thanks

RS Guy said: This car is one of three RS cars at this dealership, been on for at least a couple of months!! The market sure is slow These GT cars seem to be hanging around for sale these days. Some dealerships are finally waking up and realising the overs market ship has long since sailed and no matter what line they spin, buyers aren’t buying into the artificially created demand. With GT4 RS and now GT3 RS models sitting unregistered and pre-ordered on showroom floors, it only cements the point.

kmpowell said: How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so... Seemingly still available. Another post in the past few minutes, promoting the car… https://www.instagram.com/p/DPJLqNNCO6z/?igsh=Zzlv...

RS Guy said: This car is one of three RS cars at this dealership, been on for at least a couple of months!! The market sure is slow I was down there last week and it looked like another RS (black) was just arriving with them, too. It was taken off a trailer and was being photographed in front of the showroom as I left, so certainly appeared that way anyway.

Days of making money on the GT cars seem gone. But even in the current market, owning a car which depreciates so little or not (still), is a blessing. Maybe it will also regulate a bit the market for these cars. We all had a good run though! So now back to working harder to get the extra money to still be able to experience these beautiful and truly special cars!

A 12k miles gt3 rs went through bca this week and sold for 190k. None weissach and no pccb but has to be the cheapest around. Be interesting to see where it surfaces. Even weissach and pccb cars now at 230 retail with likely 215 in the trade has to be around list now. Mad to think these were being punted at 500k in the earliest days!

Couple of cars on OPC website now under list compared to their retail with the options.

https://www.farlan.co.uk/used/cars/porsche/911/4-0... Is this where they should be now? Just noticed that this is the BCA car that went for 190k as mentioned above. Made to look like a Weissach car with sticky tape. Edited by Tripe Bypass on Wednesday 15th October 15:13

It looks like it has had a hard 12k mileage use Center nuts looked tired as does the interior seats Tracked maybe ?

throt said: It looks like it has had a hard 12k mileage use Center nuts looked tired as does the interior seats Tracked maybe ? Never an RS on track ?

hunter 66 said: throt said: It looks like it has had a hard 12k mileage use Center nuts looked tired as does the interior seats Tracked maybe ? Never an RS on track ? Shock horror ,hunter,your is f——d then

kmpowell said: kmpowell said: How times have changed. A brand new & unregistered 3RS, not only sat in my local OPC for sale, but also being advertised... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPEj6S3CO93/?utm_so... Seemingly still available. Another post in the past few minutes, promoting the car https://www.instagram.com/p/DPJLqNNCO6z/?igsh=Zzlv... Yep was offered this last week. It seems like only yesterday (well three months ago) whereby I was offered an allocation, but had to trade my existing Taycan in for a new one, and also take a 50th anniversary 992TS to secure, what would have been a £100k hit to get in the car, lucky me. I politely declined, as I did this time round - I don’t want one that bad.

Trollbuster said: Yep was offered this last week. It seems like only yesterday (well three months ago) whereby I was offered an allocation, but had to trade my existing Taycan in for a new one, and also take a 50th anniversary 992TS to secure, what would have been a £100k hit to get in the car, lucky me. I politely declined, as I did this time round - I don t want one that bad. so the Turbo did not sell out? I thought all those limited run specials still sell [not that 1974 units is particularly limited in my eyes, but then again people call the RS versions limited with many thousands produced of each iteration). I think that Turbo looks really nice, so buying that would not have been "that bad" all things considered. Replacing an (I assume) perfectly fine Taycan with a new one and taking the hit would annoy me a lot (also really environmentally friendly ....). That would have been a big number in total if adding up the prices of all 3 (can't afford that unfortunately even if I wanted to).

The man maths certainly were not mathing. I looked at it as £100k loss off the bat, £30k on the Taycan, £70ish on the 50th after a couple of months (was an abysmal colour combination). With what I would of had to put into the Turbo plus the increased monthly on the Taycan, I could have put that into a lightly used 3Rs, kept my Taycan and it would have cost the same monthly. As opposed to all of that loss above to get into a car maybe towards the end of the year that by the way it’s going, would have lost a further £40k just driving it home. I’m not sure if I’m getting older and wiser at 44, or I’ve just had it all and I’m at the point that the disappointment of the potential losses on these cars do not offset the excitement of the ownership proposition, with that being said i have always said you have to pay to play, but when your eyeing six figure losses on some cars over a couple of years of ownership it takes most of the fun out of it.

Has anyone had any joy with track day insurance at all? mine arrives sat but my usually insurer will only cover up to 200k

jhowlett said: Has anyone had any joy with track day insurance at all? mine arrives sat but my usually insurer will only cover up to 200k Where are you getting £200k of track insurance ? Classic Line have capped it at £100k from this yea

Zurich. Got a number of cars with them

jhowlett said: Has anyone had any joy with track day insurance at all? mine arrives sat but my usually insurer will only cover up to 200k I guess if you have more than 200k damage on a 992 RS on a track day, then you will not have to worry about insurance cover / might be a topic for your heirs ....

Sadly they wont insure up to 200k of the cars value. the entire car needs to be valued at less than 200k for a track day to be covered

jhowlett said: Sadly they wont insure up to 200k of the cars value. the entire car needs to be valued at less than 200k for a track day to be covered Ah, that sucks then. I now realise I never even asked if my cars were insured on track days - I think they are as long as the criteria are met (no time keeping, racing, attempt to achieve top speed), but never actually confirmed that one. Now they are no longer insured fully comp, so does not matter anymore.

Had a testdrive in this today. Kind of blown me away. Have to do some man maths now.