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I note that Porsche has also introduced PCCM+ for 991.1. Part number: 991 642 600 00

Any idea on pricing and availability in the UK? Would really like to get Apple CarPlay into my 981.

Hopefully available for Cayennes/Macans as well!

Woohoo! And a USB C socket!

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. A bit of research suggests $2,800 could be the RRP in the US. However, TEILE.com seem to have a provisional price of €1,800. If it does end up c£1,500 i'd be very tempted if the glovebox USB still works with the new unit (I keep an old IPOD connected in there).

I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen.

The manual for it from the other thread https://assets-v2.porsche.com/int/-/media/Project/...

Looks like that would be a very nice enhancement for my 981 GTS. Presumably a bit slicker than just adding an after market board to the existing PCM unit, which I had been looking at to get CarPlay. Pity they didn't manage to squeeze in an extra inch or so of screen size though.

norscot said: Looks like that would be a very nice enhancement for my 981 GTS. Presumably a bit slicker than just adding an after market board to the existing PCM unit, which I had been looking at to get CarPlay. Pity they didn't manage to squeeze in an extra inch or so of screen size though. Yes, the bezel size on the new 997 version is questionable, but on the 981 version it seems like a missed opportunity for a larger screen. Silly size bezel. There is nearly as bezel as there is screen area!

JackReacher said: I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen. I installed Mr12Volt in my 991.1. Cost of unit £450. Installation £150 so total £600. It provides exactly the same functionality as the Porsche system for a fraction of the price. Or am I missing something here?

FrancisA said: JackReacher said: I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen. I installed Mr12Volt in my 991.1. Cost of unit £450. Installation £150 so total £600. It provides exactly the same functionality as the Porsche system for a fraction of the price. Or am I missing something here? Been struggling to find someone to do the same for mine in the Oxf/Bucks/Berks area if anyone knows someone reputable to fit. Sounds like a lot cheaper than the OPC system.

ChickenWire said: FrancisA said: JackReacher said: I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen. I installed Mr12Volt in my 991.1. Cost of unit £450. Installation £150 so total £600. It provides exactly the same functionality as the Porsche system for a fraction of the price. Or am I missing something here? Been struggling to find someone to do the same for mine in the Oxf/Bucks/Berks area if anyone knows someone reputable to fit. Sounds like a lot cheaper than the OPC system. Reach out to Liam at https://carplaydirect.net/?srsltid=AfmBOoq2tJomLXU... He will also recommend a fitter if you are in one of the areas he covers. For example he has a fitter in the Harrow area of London who is fantastic

ChickenWire said: FrancisA said: JackReacher said: I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen. I installed Mr12Volt in my 991.1. Cost of unit £450. Installation £150 so total £600. It provides exactly the same functionality as the Porsche system for a fraction of the price. Or am I missing something here? Been struggling to find someone to do the same for mine in the Oxf/Bucks/Berks area if anyone knows someone reputable to fit. Sounds like a lot cheaper than the OPC system. Reach out to Liam at https://carplaydirect.net/?srsltid=AfmBOoq2tJomLXU... He will also recommend a fitter if you are in one of the areas he covers. For example he has a fitter in the Harrow area of London who is fantastic

FrancisA said: ChickenWire said: FrancisA said: JackReacher said: I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen. I installed Mr12Volt in my 991.1. Cost of unit £450. Installation £150 so total £600. It provides exactly the same functionality as the Porsche system for a fraction of the price. Or am I missing something here? Been struggling to find someone to do the same for mine in the Oxf/Bucks/Berks area if anyone knows someone reputable to fit. Sounds like a lot cheaper than the OPC system. Reach out to Liam at https://carplaydirect.net/?srsltid=AfmBOoq2tJomLXU... He will also recommend a fitter if you are in one of the areas he covers. For example he has a fitter in the Harrow area of London who is fantastic You’re a hero, thanks FrancisA, I’ve been after this for a couple of years. No way I’m paying £2k for something that basically works just as well for a fraction of the price.

Note what Porsche are saying “Depending on the vehicle's equipment, it may be necessary to code the instrument cluster.” ”The existing amplifier needs to be updated to the latest software version.” “We recommend that the PCCM Plus be installed by qualified professionals. The warranty on the device will be void if the installation is carried out by the user.” I'd assume that the 'user' also means any 3rd party.

It took me less than two hours to fit the mr12volt unit and board. Pretty easy following the YouTube videos.

There is a long thread on Rennlist that is worth a read. Screen size is the same but resolution much improved. However, talk of some features that exist in PCM 3.1 being removed and additional cables being needed adding to the cost. https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1520113-pccm-comin...

ChickenWire said: Been struggling to find someone to do the same for mine in the Oxf/Bucks/Berks area if anyone knows someone reputable to fit. Sounds like a lot cheaper than the OPC system. https://www.nmautomotive.co.uk/shop-carplay-android-auto-kits speak to Nick, he supplied my 997 unit and I used https://sextonslondon.co.uk/ to do the install, they are Chelsea way, outside the CC and I just tuned into town for a few hours, Nick may now have a more local fitter. Your other option is call Max at https://johnkleisaudio.co.uk/what-we-do/apple-carp... in Reading, they can supply and fit a solution, my new car is booked in for a full audio upgrade in a few weeks, tell him Pietro sent you.

Very interesting. If it's €1800 it might be worth it just to stop the bloody radio coming on when I start the car. Right now I have to make sure that it's always left on aux so that music doesn;t start playing from the radio or from my phone. No idea who was behind that design decision! The existing unit has a lot of functionality which I wouldn't like to see disappear even though I hardly ever use it. Things like lap timer and which I could imagine might not exist. And it would be nice if the on-screen keyboard could be changed from German layout...

Jones the cat said: The manual for it from the other thread https://assets-v2.porsche.com/int/-/media/Project/... Thanks for that. I have a 991.1 and will be interested in the upgrade. Apart from DAB radio (which is pretty flaky in mine - always 'loading data') I don't generally use the PCCM in mine. I use my phone on a holder for Waze. So this looks like a possible purchase. I look forward to the first reviews.

Jones the cat said: ?We recommend that the PCCM Plus be installed by qualified professionals. The warranty on the device will be void if the installation is carried out by the user.? I'd assume that the 'user' also means any 3rd party. Isn't this standard wording on most products, i.e. "installed by qualified technician"?

FriedMarsBar said: Jones the cat said: ?We recommend that the PCCM Plus be installed by qualified professionals. The warranty on the device will be void if the installation is carried out by the user.? I'd assume that the 'user' also means any 3rd party. Isn't this standard wording on most products, i.e. "installed by qualified technician"? but it doesn't say that. If they were ok with that then they'd say warranty only valid if installed by a qualified technician.

LunarOne said: Very interesting. If it's 1800 it might be worth it just to stop the bloody radio coming on when I start the car. Right now I have to make sure that it's always left on aux so that music doesn;t start playing from the radio or from my phone. No idea who was behind that design decision! The existing unit has a lot of functionality which I wouldn't like to see disappear even though I hardly ever use it. Things like lap timer and which I could imagine might not exist. And it would be nice if the on-screen keyboard could be changed from German layout... You can mute it on start up: https://youtu.be/XNF4DC8in6Y?si=6ZQuuJD9Fzd7fBl_&a...

Diderot said: LunarOne said: Very interesting. If it's 1800 it might be worth it just to stop the bloody radio coming on when I start the car. Right now I have to make sure that it's always left on aux so that music doesn;t start playing from the radio or from my phone. No idea who was behind that design decision! The existing unit has a lot of functionality which I wouldn't like to see disappear even though I hardly ever use it. Things like lap timer and which I could imagine might not exist. And it would be nice if the on-screen keyboard could be changed from German layout... You can mute it on start up: https://youtu.be/XNF4DC8in6Y?si=6ZQuuJD9Fzd7fBl_&a... I know you can do it by turning off PCM, but then none of the other functions work. Hands-free audio doesn't work for example. I want to leave PCM on but not have it start playing music when I get in the car. No other car I've had with nav/infotainment has behaved like that. And clearly Porsche realised their mistake as PCM4.x in the 991.2 and 718 cars doesn't have this annoying "feature".

I’ll probably do it-will wait a while for more comments from users . Hope it is better than the absolutely ghastly factory upgrade for the 997.1. Garbage

LunarOne said: Diderot said: LunarOne said: Very interesting. If it's 1800 it might be worth it just to stop the bloody radio coming on when I start the car. Right now I have to make sure that it's always left on aux so that music doesn;t start playing from the radio or from my phone. No idea who was behind that design decision! The existing unit has a lot of functionality which I wouldn't like to see disappear even though I hardly ever use it. Things like lap timer and which I could imagine might not exist. And it would be nice if the on-screen keyboard could be changed from German layout... You can mute it on start up: https://youtu.be/XNF4DC8in6Y?si=6ZQuuJD9Fzd7fBl_&a... I know you can do it by turning off PCM, but then none of the other functions work. Hands-free audio doesn't work for example. I want to leave PCM on but not have it start playing music when I get in the car. No other car I've had with nav/infotainment has behaved like that. And clearly Porsche realised their mistake as PCM4.x in the 991.2 and 718 cars doesn't have this annoying "feature". Fair enough.

€1800 https://www.avp-shop.de/NEU-Original-Porsche-PCCM-...

ChickenWire said: FrancisA said: ChickenWire said: FrancisA said: JackReacher said: I've been quoted just under £2k fitted from a local OPC with PCGB discount. It doesn't seem too unreasonable for an OEM system that should integrate with other car features and provide a much better screen. I installed Mr12Volt in my 991.1. Cost of unit £450. Installation £150 so total £600. It provides exactly the same functionality as the Porsche system for a fraction of the price. Or am I missing something here? Been struggling to find someone to do the same for mine in the Oxf/Bucks/Berks area if anyone knows someone reputable to fit. Sounds like a lot cheaper than the OPC system. Reach out to Liam at https://carplaydirect.net/?srsltid=AfmBOoq2tJomLXU... He will also recommend a fitter if you are in one of the areas he covers. For example he has a fitter in the Harrow area of London who is fantastic You re a hero, thanks FrancisA, I ve been after this for a couple of years. No way I m paying £2k for something that basically works just as well for a fraction of the price. No worries. All the steering controls will work except for the telephone function. To make a call you use Siri and when you receive a call the call function that you see on your phone appears on the screen - you simply hit the answer button. The in car microphone still works for calls. One other advantage of Mr12Volt is that it has it's own built in adjustable equalizer which does improve the sound quality significantly. Another advantage is that is connects with WIFI and not Bluetooth.

that German seller's website says "Erforderliche Anschlusskabel und Adapter sind fahrzeugabhängig und separat zu erwerben." required connecting cables and adapters are vehicle dependent and to be obtained (presumably purchased!) separately.

I upgraded mine myself using a £180 kit. Was a pretty easy job (and quite fun) and it works pretty well, once you know how to set it up (phone call routing, bt audio routing), but was easily sorted with some whatsapp messages with China! Now have fully working Carplay/Android Auto