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Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

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YOUR RESEARCHAny help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

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I stopped it then and there, and later checked the coolant with had frothy brown stuff at the top, and then checked the oil and it had coolant in the oil.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.
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Check oil and it had coolant in the oil

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I stopped it then and there, and later checked the coolant with had frothy brown stuff at the top, and then checked the oil and it had coolant in the oil.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

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It was serviced 3 weeks prior and given a clean bill of health.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

Run temp

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Symptoms were a very sudden overheating of the engine, I was waiting at the lights and in the time it took to go from red to green the engine had gone from normal running temp to boiling over.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

Use around 188k

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It's been well used around 188k on the clock and a few recent track days might have helped speed things along - but worth it - kind of

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I stopped it then and there, and later checked the coolant with had frothy brown stuff at the top, and then checked the oil and it had coolant in the oil.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

Check oil and it had coolant in the oil

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I stopped it then and there, and later checked the coolant with had frothy brown stuff at the top, and then checked the oil and it had coolant in the oil.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

Clean bill of health

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It was serviced 3 weeks prior and given a clean bill of health.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

Run temp

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Suggestion · Original poster

Symptoms were a very sudden overheating of the engine, I was waiting at the lights and in the time it took to go from red to green the engine had gone from normal running temp to boiling over.

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.

Use around 188k

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Suggestion · Original poster

It's been well used around 188k on the clock and a few recent track days might have helped speed things along - but worth it - kind of

Any help appreciated in getting a much loved 996 back on the road.
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi Unfortunately my 1998 Porsche Carrerra had an engine fail last week.  I've been told by Porsche that it either has a head gasket failure, or damage to the head, lining or cylinder.  Estimates for repairs have been between $10k and $33k depending on the damage and location of the repair. I can't really afford the repairs and don't know what other options I have.  Does anyone have any ideas on how I can extract some value from the car, where can I sell it as a rolling chassis?  are there any cheaper options I haven't thought of.  Body and interior are in great condition, it seems a shame to scrap it for next to nothing, but that seems the only option I can find so far.  I'm Melbourne based. Any help would be much appreciated, I'm devastated to be out of the porsche community, hopefully there's some way back.

POST 2Original post

Buy  a replacement engine from the US - shipping would probably be below $600 http://www.ebay.com/bhp/porsche-996-engine

POST 3Original post

Ouch. How many km were on the engine when it decided to kick the bucket? I would definitely go for a replacement from the US or if your lucky find one from a write off over here.

POST 4Original post

http://www.vertexauto.com/showitem.aspx?&id=293712&name=Porsche%20996%20Rebuilt%20Engine%203.6%20L%20-%20Years%2002-04 $15k for a rebuilt one plus freight from the US. Ring some of your local independents, in particular SPYDER (he advertises on here) never know what they may have a lead to.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 93793

Unless a HGF led to some serious secondary damage, I can't see how head gasket replacement would run to $10k. I'd be talking to a trusted independent Porsche specialist with a view to getting a diagnosis of exactly what the problem is and work from there.  Reading between the lines, it looks like absence of compression on one or more cylinders has led to a speculative diagnosis. If you've got no compression on two adjacent cylinders, that would point towards HGF.  A single cylinder without compression may be something more serious. (None of the above should be mis-construed as a pop at the OP or the Porsche dealership.)

POST 6Original post

That's bad news mate, I hope it all works out for you.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 93798

It's been well used around 188k on the clock and a few recent track days might have helped speed things along - but worth it - kind of Looks like I've found someone who will diagnose it properly, will repair it cheaper and will take it of my hands for a fair price if I can't afford the fix, so it looks like I've found the best solution I can.  Thanks all for your help!  Here's hoping I get it back on the road where it belongs!

POST 8Original post

Glad to hear that it's not a total loss. Hopefully it will be back on the road where it belongs. Not sure I could ever live without my 996.

POST 9Original post

As has been said , get a proper diagnosis. This company http://www.flat6innovations.com/index.php/engines/stock-parts-a-services have the right idea - fix the faults and supply "bulletproof" motors. Hopefully get at least 188k out of a rebuild.

POST 10Original post

have you talked to anyone apart from Porsche? Have you talked to Autoart? http://www.autoartaustralia.com/ Give them a call, shouldn't be that hard. Head gasket failure... shouldn't be that expensive! When you say engine failure, what exactly were the symptoms?

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 93929

Thanks, yes I've spoken with Jacarro and they agree The quotes seem way off.  He'll have a look at it in the new year and we'll see how we go.  Symptoms were a very sudden overheating of the engine, I was waiting at the lights and in the time it took to go from red to green the engine had gone from normal running temp to boiling over.  I stopped it then and there, and later checked the coolant with had frothy brown stuff at the top, and then checked the oil and it had coolant in the oil.  Engine had been running great prior to that, no prior warnings of a failure at all.  Temp and oil pressure normal, starting fine and running fine.  It was serviced 3 weeks prior and given a clean bill of health. We'll see what the others guys think when they get a proper look at it.  Hopefully it is just a gasket, but everyone I spoken too seems to think that's the least likely scenario so it seems odd porsche suggested it, maybe they were just trying to ease the pain, or thought I'm too ignorant to understand more complicated head issues so just explained it that way.

POST 12Original post

Sounds like it might have something to do with cylinder liner cracks according to Pelican parts 996 engine knowledge base

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 93986

All that cost saving might have made them the most profitable car company on the the planet, but it sure has given their reputation for solid engineering a kicking.

POST 14Original post

Seen more IMS bearing failures and cracked cylinder liners than blown head gaskets on the 996s. $10k for just a head gasket replacements is way too much.

POST 15Original post

I would say they have factored the worst case scenario into their quote and simply said it is a head gasket. Replacing liners is not a small task particularly if they need to be honed in situ. Good luck with it mate, let's us know how it unravels.

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