Manual 997.2 is it really that rare?!

I was looking at car sales and noticed that there were no 997.2 manuals! Not one! Nothing at all... I heard not many were made but I was very surprised! I am actually selling mine to fuel my air cooled passion so I can add another oldie to the collection (diclosure; so you will see mine if you look). BUT... when I was on carsales they have a tool and you can check what similar cars have sold and that said only 1 997.2 manual had sold in the last -12 months... I was astounded! Does anybody know the stats? Very keen to know

I can't help with the manufacturing numbers, but i produce software for extracting information from various sources and i've been watching the advertisements on a certain source for a while. This is around 95%+ of what has been listed. I don't catch everything and sometimes things are incorrectly listed. My only motivation in monitoring this is to get myself into one once i've dealt with some other expenses. Title    Price    kms    body    month    year 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY09    $129,800    56,000 kms    Coupe    7    2014 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Black Edition MY11    $149,990    14,136 kms    Coupe    8    2014 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY09    $149,900    11,346 kms    Coupe    8    2014 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Black Edition MY11    $147,000    14,900 kms    Coupe    8    2014 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY09    $146,900    51,323 kms    Coupe    9    2014 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY09    $142,900    52,336 kms    Coupe    9    2014 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Black Edition MY11    $149,900    15,100 kms    Coupe    9    2014 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY09    $139,900    56,124 kms    Coupe    10    2014 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY10    $159,900    34,278 kms    Coupe    10    2014 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY09    $159,900    11,359 kms    Coupe    10    2014 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II S MY10    $164,900    34,391 kms    Coupe    10    2014 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II 4 MY10 All Wheel Drive    $159,900    38,109 kms    Coupe    10    2014 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II GTS MY11    $179,000    23,000 kms    Coupe    10    2014 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $145,000    25,000 km    Coupe    11    2015 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $147,000    39,000 km    Coupe    11    2015 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 997 Series II Manual AWD    $160,000    14,500 km    Convertible    12    2015 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 997 Series II Manual AWD    $144,880    18,896 km    Coupe    12    2015 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $109,990    65,754 km    Coupe    1    2016 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $167,900    10,850 km    Coupe    1    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $134,900    38,000 km    Coupe    1    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $143,900    23,683 km    Convertible    2    2016 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 997 Series II Manual AWD    $148,500    55,000 km    Convertible    2    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $122,000    89,000 km    Coupe    2    2016 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS 997 Series II Manual    $157,500    51,569 km    Coupe    2    2016 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 997 Series II Manual AWD    $149,000    15,273 km    Convertible    2    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $139,900    11,438 km    Coupe    2    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 997 Series II Manual AWD    $159,745    36,134 km    Coupe    2    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $135,880    50,500 km    Coupe    3    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $97,777    41,919 km    Coupe    3    2016 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $147,990    39,900 km    Coupe    5    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $115,000    75,000 km    Coupe    6    2016 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $131,990    27,700 km    Coupe    6    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $128,990    41,100 km    Coupe    6    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $145,000    14,500 km    Coupe    6    2016 2011 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $169,900    36,506 km    Coupe    7    2016 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $179,990    17,600 km    Coupe    8    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S 997 Series II Manual AWD    $149,900    44,390 km    Coupe    8    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $96,500    85,200 km    Coupe    8    2016 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $169,900    18,660 km    Coupe    9    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $129,900    72,469 km    Coupe    9    2016 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $159,750    33,551 km    Coupe    10    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S 997 Series II Manual    $114,000    84,300 km    Coupe    10    2016 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera 997 Series II Manual    $124,000    44,000 km    Coupe    12    2016 43 listings in total. Over the same period of time there were ~180 series ii auto (pdk) listings.

Stu, the only other manual for sale that I know of is at Autohaus Hamilton.  It was advertised for a longtime on Carsales in Vic then WA last year before popping up at Autohaus. t888, From you non linear regression modelling work do you see the prices are still depreciating around 5% per year on these cars? Great work BTW

Great work t888, Any chance you have the same data for 997.1 Cabs?

Don't know the numbers per se, but when I was hunting for my 997.2 (I wanted a manual) only about 1 in 20 or so I saw for sale were manual. Left very little choice and I had to compromise on the PDK to get the right car. Good compromise as I love the dual-clutcher but manual was my preferred option. I think because the 997.2 was the first release of the PDK (and everybody talked it up so much as release time) the world went nuts for it. In 2010 Porsche sold around 5700 997's versus 13,100 in 2007 (pre GFC) and I'm led to believe around 2 in 10 997.2's were manual versus 7 of 10 for the 997.1's. So that gives you an indication of just how few are around.

Nice t888! I've borrowed your data for my own spreadsheets 2020 yot 997.2? S

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How can you go wrong with a 997.2?  PDK or manual, both winners. Same with the S or the narrow bodies, can't go wrong with either I hear. Only reoccurring theme seems to be the road noise from the back tyres on chip seals. Are the 18" wheels noticeably quieter?

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check your pm's

Wow t888 you are a freak that is absolutely amazing. And thanks everybody else really interesting stuff. I will be parting with mine soon as they say as one door closes another opens. The collection must change at some point - there will however slwsys be a Porsche!

I've also been stunned by how few 997.2 manuals are available.  Makes me think that down the track this is going to end up being a seriously collectible model. Meanwhile it's a bloody nuisance because I'd quite like a change from my current daily driver (BMW 1M).

10-15% of global 997.2 deliveries were manual supposedly. No idea what the split was here but given the hype around PDK at the time, and the lack of 997.2 manuals on the market you'd have to think its similar.

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1M nice daily!   I see another 997.2 just sold.

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The black Carrera manual that was advertised for 2 weeks at $130k?  The only other manual is the 85,000km maroon S at Autohaus for $127k. The silver PDK Carrera with 17,000km for $125k stands out for me.

If that Autohaus car had lower mileage it'd be gone.

OR if it was cheaper I'd have it!

Nothing wrong with either gearbox Stu I have a manual 997.1 S and love swapping the cogs ,,,,,but have also driven a later 997.2 S with PDK numerous times and  love how quick it changes gear and how precisely it does every thing ...The PDK makes the car quicker and I find it is just as much fun as a manual if not more as every thing happens at a rapid rate,,,I know there are many out there who do not like the PDK and carry on about it can,t be a real drivers car with out a manual ,,,but I personally think the PDK,S are fantastic and add a whole new element to performance driving ,,,,my only suggestion would be to get sports Chrono with the PDK as this sharpens every thing up on the car even more ,,,,s faster changes,,,better throttle response and sharpens the steering and suspension up even further ,,well worth getting if you can ........When I eventually upgrade my current car to say a 991 I will be looking for a PDK ...

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Yes sir I think your , and . keys need a clean

I keep thinking I need to put this on carsales, then wax it again, quick drive and say I'll do it next month LOL. Wife wants me to keep it now (but wants a garage back)... it's an expensive car when you need to build a garage to keep it - ah decision, decisions!

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Last price it sold for from Perth was 117k if I recall correctly. Out of my budget so I didn't go look at it personally.

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Now being advertised at a dealer for $150k! https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-2010/OAG-AD-14280940/?Cr=7 I was the same.   At $117k I thought it was a fair price.  When it was first advertised in Melbourne it also came with a set of track wheels.  I notice that doesn't get mentioned now, nor the upgraded brake calipers. Now that I'm ready to buy, all the interesting "cheap" ones have dried up!

Ok I'm doing it my MANUAL 997.2 is up for sale. Selling in consignment next week but will be up here until then just PM me if you are keen. Thanks! http://porscheforum.com.au/topic/10995-9972-manual-for-sale/