Are used PPCB brakes in demand? - Page 1 - 911/Carrera GT - PistonHeads UK

Just testing the water really. I have a 55K miles 997.1 C4S with PCCB brakes. Everyhting is fine with them but I have had someone ask if he can buy them. Apparently they are a nightmare and I should be terrified of the costs associated with PCCB and he is doing me a favour by offering to take them off my hands. It is my first 911 but that souinds like bullocks. I am happy to keep them, but it did make me wonder if there were people interested and what they are worth. Any advice welcomed.

The PCCBs on a 997.1 would be a fairly early generation - Gen 2. I had them on a 997.1 GT3 and a 997.2 Turbo S - both from new. I found them to be terrific, with no issues and all the benefits, particularly for regular road and occasional track use. And I’ve spec’d them each subsequent new 911 since. They were considered an expensive option - £6k, but now £10k, although they have a much longer life than steels (pads the same) and can add value at resale. If yours are in excellent condition then they could have a worthwhile value - perhaps to a 997.1 GT3 owner. Or, someone with a nice 997 might consider them a worthwhile upgrade. A search on eBay will give you an indication of value.

Thanks. I have checked with a local Porache specialist and it would be around £1,200 to just swap the discs ands pads for steel equivalents, bigger than standard, so I guess I keep the PCCB unless this guy comes back with a sensible offer

PCCBs are great for many reasons discussed on here Do not entertain BS offers to help you out by taking them off your hands. But do feel free to waste this guy’s time saying you might as well let the car go for a song now you’re worried about the brakes

Geneve said: The PCCBs on a 997.1 would be a fairly early generation - Gen 2. I had them on a 997.1 GT3 and a 997.2 Turbo S - both from new. I found them to be terrific, with no issues and all the benefits, particularly for regular road and occasional track use. And I ve spec d them each subsequent new 911 since. They were considered an expensive option - £6k, but now £10k, although they have a much longer life than steels (pads the same) and can add value at resale. If yours are in excellent condition then they could have a worthwhile value - perhaps to a 997.1 GT3 owner. Or, someone with a nice 997 might consider them a worthwhile upgrade. A search on eBay will give you an indication of value. Non-GT3/RS/GT2 models used 350mm diameter front discs, whereas the GT cars used 380mm items. So C2/C4/C2S front brakes won't fit a 997.1 GT3.

I don’t know all the technical details on each model but I’m a huge fan and always spec them or look for them. You can google the advantages. Disadvantages are really just the cost of replacement. And to add to that keep an eye on your pads, especially the rear ones, if you have PSM, if your car gets out of shape the system applies the brakes to slow everything down, which means that in extreme conditions like a track day you could wear through your carbon pads/disks without realising it as they’ll be doing double duty if your PSM is kicking in regularly. I’ve never seen it but I’ve heard of it happening. I always turn it off but then you need to know what will happen with it off if you’re used to it working in the background, so find some gravel roads or a nice slippery car park and try it with it without.

My concern was always other people with them, like tyre fitters or even just the mechanics. You can just imagine the conversation when you realise your lovely disk is chipped and it wasn't before they had it... Oh and they squeaked like mad when properly wet.

Have them on the 2015 Macan. 102k flawless miles over 11 years. I did sweat a little when the OPC told me the drain bolts were stuck at the last fluid service and the solution might need a new calliper. They managed to swap the bolts. I also sweat every time it has a tyre change as one dropped wheel can write off a disk. But clean wheels, sharp braking, fit and forget. If i could swap them to my 996, I would!

There are guide pins available from Porsche that screw in in place of the first two wheel bolts that are removed in order to prevent disc damage - well worth getting a pair. I have PCCBs on 2006, 2014 and 2023 cars and am glad they're there.