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996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

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YOUR RESEARCH996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

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Install 4 new lambda sensors in the catalytic converters

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I fitted 4 new lambda sensors in the catalytic converters when I removed the rusted exhaust manifolds.

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Check heater voltage

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I'll check the heater voltage when the engine has cooled down and I can do a cold start in the morning.

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Leading evidence: 'Install 4 new lambda sensors in the catalytic converters' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Check heater voltage' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Install sensors

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Got my grown son to stand on the CAT’s and eventually ripped all 4 out, drilled & retapped threads, installed new sensors.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Use exactly the same tools i will be

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You used exactly the same tools I will be using, except I don't have the thread chaser yet.

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Check heater voltage

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I'll check the heater voltage when the engine has cooled down and I can do a cold start in the morning.

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Check heater wiring

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That was my thought as well, which is why I'm checking the heater wiring, but the voltages are reporting correctly, so if the heater voltage are there then it points to them both having failed.

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I'll check the heater voltage when the engine has cooled down and I can do a cold start in the morning.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Check heater wiring

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That was my thought as well, which is why I'm checking the heater wiring, but the voltages are reporting correctly, so if the heater voltage are there then it points to them both having failed.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Install 4 new lambda sensors in the catalytic converters

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I fitted 4 new lambda sensors in the catalytic converters when I removed the rusted exhaust manifolds.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Install sensors

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Got my grown son to stand on the CAT’s and eventually ripped all 4 out, drilled & retapped threads, installed new sensors.

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As stated you are going to need a Mapp heat gun, angle grinder, long crow bar (and maybe a scaffold pole), a 22mm bolt extractor for rounded nuts and a m18 lambda sensor thread repair tool.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Use exactly the same tools i will be

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You used exactly the same tools I will be using, except I don't have the thread chaser yet.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Use except i don't have the thread chaser yet

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You used exactly the same tools I will be using, except I don't have the thread chaser yet.

996 Exhaust issues, I think I have some pain coming...

Use whole thing as leverage

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If you take the cats off ,you can clamp the nut in a vice and use the whole thing as leverage to try to undo them, it sometimes works but those look pretty seized.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

After spending some time sorting out the brakes on my car, I took it for its MOT and it failed on emissions. Lambda of 1.1 and CO of 5%. Plugged in the durametric and it is showing fault codes P0134 and P0154 which is inoperative O2 sensors on both banks. Voltages on both showing as a steady 0.4v. I have checked them with a meter and they really are. The heater resistance is showing in durametric as 2.3 ohms, heater fuse is OK and no faults reported on the heater. I'll check the heater voltage when the engine has cooled down and I can do a cold start in the morning. Assuming the heaters have voltage I'll try to get the sensors out, but I'm not holding out much hope. Any advice welcome. I have a sensor socket which slides over them, but the one I tried it on was so rusted it just span around on it. I might have to bite the bullet and get the exhaust off, which is not something I'm looking forward to from the state of the bolts!! At least the brakes are looking great. MC

POST 2Original post

You'll only have to remove the cats won't you?

POST 3Original post

My initial view is whilst two sensors can fail, both going dead in the same way points more towards a shared feed or wiring fault. Exhaust bolts look like they are ready for combat !

POST 4Original post

Exhaust manifolds are a challenge but great feeling when you succeed

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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That was my thought as well, which is why I'm checking the heater wiring, but the voltages are reporting correctly, so if the heater voltage are there then it points to them both having failed. I have found cases of this happening with other people before. It isn't the end of the world if I have to take the exhaust off. Let's face it, it is going to end up happening one day! MC

POST 6Original post

If you take the cats off ,you can clamp the nut in a vice and use the whole thing as leverage to try to undo them, it sometimes works but those look pretty seized.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have ordered a set of impact nut removers. Always a good excuse for more tools. I have just checked and confirmed that the heaters are active on both sides. So tomorrow I'll get the bumper off to get a bit better access, it was off last week so will come off easily, and see if I can remove them without taking the whole system off. MC

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Alex, Is the Rothenburger useful for all heat treating work for the car. I mean is it worth getting for my tool kit rather than a typical B&Q type blow torch

POST 10Original post

Deffo. These things are magical and worth every penny. The don't half get heat in to stuff.

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Looking on Amazon there a few different types, which type / model do you recommend

POST 12Original post

I had 2 of my Lambda sensors fail, I tried with lambda sockets but they were useless. Heat didn’t seem to help. CAT’s off, cut the top of the sensors, Impact socket and breaker bar. Got my grown son to stand on the CAT’s and eventually ripped all 4 out, drilled & retapped threads, installed new sensors. Wasn’t fun but satisfying when done. Old cars

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POST 14Original post

I fitted 4 new lambda sensors in the catalytic converters when I removed the rusted exhaust manifolds. As stated you are going to need a Mapp heat gun, angle grinder, long crow bar (and maybe a scaffold pole), a 22mm bolt extractor for rounded nuts and a m18 lambda sensor thread repair tool. Did a series of 6 videos and part 5 covers lambda sensor removal. Good luck. Oh, and I have a Stomski kit for removing rusted exhaust manifold studs available to buy.

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

You used exactly the same tools I will be using, except I don't have the thread chaser yet. If I end up taking it off the car I'll be swapping for something new though. Tomorrow should reveal all. Looking forward to it MC

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