Heel and toeing on 944... - Page 1 - Porsche General - PistonHeads UK

Racking my memory Thom, but I seem to remember that it requires a slight adaptation of technique - make sure that you are wearing flexible shoes (You'll have trouble in Timberlands) then practise whilst stationary (very important....) You need to get used to braking with your foot at a 45 degree angle - heel bottom left, toe top right. This way you brake with the ball of your boot almost on the right edge of the brake pedal. To make up the distance between brake and accelerator pedal you are then able to rock your foot forward whilst still applying pressure on the brakes and blip the accelerator with you toes..... Very few cars I've owned have had a good enough pedal setup to allow the classic almost vertical foot position, allowing you to "roll" your foot onto the accelerator whilst still braking. Instead the technique above is more of a "toe poke". Requires a flexible ankle and is probably easier with size 8's instead of size 12's...... Best of luck (and please practise whilst parked.....

Never driven a 944, but always heel and toed with my ball of the foot controlling the braking and my heel blipping the throttle. Being my age, a lot of my early cars didn't have syncromesh and that is how we did it then!!

This is the whole problem...the distance is so long I can't make myself comfortable enough to do anything, especially as you have to brake with the heel and push the throttle with your toes: IMO the contrary feels much more natural but is absolutely impossible to realise... I'll work out what you say. Thank you for your advice

I've always found the "heel" for accelerator and "Toe" for brake (really ball of foot) difficult with cars that have floor hinged accelerators. Different for everyone of course and all about what feels most comfortable.

On my S2 and turbo 944s, heeling and toeing was virtually impossible. Domster

Good holiday Dom?

On my old Elise you could just roll your foot but in the 993 I use the toe for the brake and heal for the accelerator. Its was a bit strange at first due to the distance and pedal setup of the 993 but I managed to get used to it in the end. The main thing as far as I'm concerned is that I can only really do it when braking hard (and I'm normally driving harder then), I can't realy do it when just driving around normally...

Hi UV, Yup, bit off topic, but very good, thanks for asking! Now I can get back to work, ie finding a home for my Lotus Carlton and trying to get some porsche keys of my own. I see that Dave Scott (Scottster) was keeping things going in my absence - just bought a 993 Carrera the little swine, and sold his 964 C2 in a matter of nanoseconds. Maybe a turbo or two would redress the balance? All the best Dom

Sounds like a dose of sibling rivalry going on there. Much like that between my mate and I. The git bought a 4.5 cerbera a couple of months ago.

No chance Domster me 'ol mucker, you buy a T2 I'll put my mum back on the streets and get a T4!!!

Yeah, Davey and I have always had a competitive streak! It was almost him who bought a Lotus Carlton and me who bought a 964 C2. As long as my porsche is a little newer... little faster... little more reliable... I'll be a happy man ;-) He always gets jealous over my floormats though. I always buy lush autostyle premier ones and he mocks me until he takes a look at the threadbare sacks gracing his footwells! I can't win - Scottster will be competing with me if I get a 993, and UV has thrown down the gauntlet if I get a Turbo 2. You can see why I'm contemplating bosshog's T4 just to avoid any kind of expensive one-upmanship. Rgds Domster

Don't think you'll be safe in a T4, I have a strange itch.... First one to 450Bhp, GO!!! Suspension is done, and oh boy what a difference

Will start a proper thread - sorry Thom, this one has gone AWOL!

No prob; I think I should forget heel and toeing on my car

Thom, I blame Dom

And having driven the 993 last night, Dom is now a torn man...... I'll leave the rest to him. ps: No chance of heel and toeing the 993

Dead easy in my turbo, toe the brake and heal the throttle. what's the problem ?

Couldn't do that in my 944 Turbo. Depends how high up the brake pedal is I suppose. Can they be adjusted? Domster

It seems the cars haven't all been built with the same pedal set-up... k 27: even if I push the break pedal to the end of its travel, the throttle pedal is still 10cm too far away lengthwide...I mean it is virtually impossible to get the two pads of the pedals in the same plan >> Edited by thom on Thursday 28th March 14:54

...seems impossible to realise because of the too important distance between the brake pedal and the throttle: even when I brake hard, the travel of the brake pedal is not wide enough to allow reaching the throttle. Am I right or does any of you manage it? (Leithen?) Thank you >>> Edited by thom on Monday 18th March 20:38